CnC said:I'm more of a hans zimmer fan, myself.
Oh well, I also like Hans Zimmer. And Duel of the Fates.
CnC said:I'm more of a hans zimmer fan, myself.
Aazealh said:Predator's was better. Gotta love the Friday troll. 8)
PS: Otherwise, Morricone's work on Once Upon a Time in America is particularly interesting in regard to what you just said, since he made the OST first, and then Sergio Leone based himself on it to make the movie. He played the music in the background while the actors were... well acting.
mahlernut said:Morricone has some fucking awesome music. [The rest]
mahlernut said:the Duel of the Fates is a mix of Puccini's "Turandot" and Verdi's Requiem, and the love theme from AotC is pure Rachmaninov.
"Griffith No More!" said:I'll call the police.
Hahaha. Sorry if I creeped you out or whatever by doing that, but just take it as a compliment (because I occasionally check your post list to get the BERSERK news quickly, instead of browsing through tons of commentary). Over the little SW argument we had, though.Aazealh said:PPS: I utterly disagree with you TS, and I've been thinking about making a big post to point out every gross flaw of the movie, but I'm too lazy at the moment. Ah yeah, and in reply to Wah Wah Wah, I actually liked some parts of Episode 3, but I'm with Griffith as far as saying that Episode 1 was better. Jar Jar sucked, but not that much. Just trying to redeem myself since nir085 has been checking my account as a Guest for the past 3 days. :-X
C said:http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=episode3
Zimmer is good... Not great. He has an extreme lack of audio recording skills... That my friend is a big "no-no".CnC said:While I felt the main themes of the previous movies were better (personally, I love "duel of fates"), this was not a "bad" soundtrack.
PPPPS: I'm more of a hans zimmer fan, myself.
trapped_soul said:haha. you're so stupid to you know that? ;)
trapped_soul said:that's indeed something i would like to read. I have no problem if people "utterly disagree" with me - as long as they back their point of view up. especially cause i really don't see why you guys obviously didn't like the movie at all.
trapped_soul said:the article is a bunch of bs, and i could point out a hundred reasons why.
so are the dozens of other articles on his site, btw
nir085 said:Hahaha. Sorry if I creeped you out or whatever by doing that, but just take it as a compliment (because I occasionally check your post list to get the BERSERK news quickly, instead of browsing through tons of commentary). Over the little SW argument we had, though.
C said:http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=episode3
"Griffith No More!" said:Wally's review pretty much got it right.
mistake in typing. i meant: "You are so stupid, do you know that ;)"."Griffith No More!" said:No, but stupid too, perhaps? ;)
that implies that my review ain't rational, right? why? because it doesn't suit to your opinion?Just read every rational post in this thread (hint: me, Wally, Aaz =). If it wasn't Star Wars, this movie wouldn't even merit a discussion. On second thought, it still doesn't, but good luck.
Wally wrote that he didn't know at first what to think of it. he must have liked some things about it, but when he came across the hyperbolizing Griffith_no_more, his mind got twisted more and more. eventually he switched to the darkside. later in this thread wally said he had low expectations. looooow. and still he was shocked. well... isn't that kind of contradictory? someone got twisted here.Wally's review pretty much got it right I think. I tend to hyperbolize. =)
i wanted to reenforce that this article is bullshit by saying that.I smell some BS, but it isn't coming from that particular Star Wars review. Why not claim a billion trillion gazillion reasons if you're not actually going to give any? Must be an oversight, let me get you started:
sure thing just send me *.pdf file via email and include your bank account numberOkay, after you fill in the blank, that's just 99 more to go! ;D
i didn't "choose" to like this movie. contrary to you i didn't find this movie to be soulless or disingenuous. i hated episode I+II. and yet i didn't have to lower my standards in order to like this one. if you think that i have low standards then, please do so. i don't care. the usual hollywood rubbish pissed me off as well (grievous with 4 lightsabres, stupid androids, yoda in his pyjamas), yet i was accepting that decent amount of cliché to find one thing: Story.Anyway, to me, it's an easy choice; do the right thing and accept that these souless, disingenuous movies blow (oh, and they do, hard, like the fucking wind), and move on, or lower my standards and rationalize and apologize for these bad movies, lowering the reputation of the real Star Wars movies in the process. Sorry, I just don't want to like bad movies, and furthermore, I don't want Star Wars to be bad movies (it's sad that guys who dress up as hobbits make fun of you for liking Star Wars now... but the real sad thing is, they're right). So, when I think of Star Wars, "the prequels" will come to mind as what they really are; merchandising. More Star Wars crap for sale, another trilogy for Lucas to repackage and sell over and over again. Spaceballs the Toilet Paper!
Episode III fits to the original, I+II don't.Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi, pre-special edition; to me, this is the only Star Wars Trilogy, movies, series, saga, story, complete, the end. The rest of it is just part of a franchise, a brand name, or the "extended universe" if you want to really include it into the fold. I'm not saying anyone has to hate the new movies, or totally disregard them, I still plan to enjoy them for what they are, but I'm also going to accept them for what they are, and not try to rationalize them into the same category as the originals, because side by side, they just don't fit. Please, join me in this beautiful point of view, and we can all live together in peace. =)
Nomad said:Zimmer is good... Not great. He has an extreme lack of audio recording skills... That my friend is a big "no-no".
trapped_soul said:that implies that my review ain't rational, right? why?
trapped_soul said:i wanted to reenforce that this article is bullshit by saying that.
main reason: this guy is bitching about the movie getting totally carried without even trying to see what might be a good part of the movie to him.
trapped_soul said:and as far as i am concerned, there are indeed many great aspects in this movie.
trapped_soul said:i didn't "choose" to like this movie. contrary to you i didn't find this movie to be soulless or disingenuous. i hated episode I+II. and yet i didn't have to lower my standards in order to like this one. if you think that i have low standards then, please do so. i don't care. the usual hollywood rubbish pissed me off as well (grievous with 4 lightsabres, stupid androids, yoda in his pyjamas), yet i was accepting that decent amount of cliché to find one thing: Story.
it was well told and answered all open questions that remained. and those were a lot. it had depth, tension and emotion - unlike episode II which was narrow-minded entertainment for toddlers.
Episode III fits to the original, I+II don't.
i also can't see how you can say Episode I was the best of them.
I won't join you in your beautiful point of view. and we cannot live in peace - if you aren't with me, you are my enemy. :-*
-TS
P.S. Very well, GriffithNoMore, i can feel the anger in you.
basically what you did in your posts was bitching about how bad it was, just like the guys in the article did."Griffith No More!" said:No, it was implying you should read my posts which already address all the issues of our discussion so I don't have to keep repeating myself. But, if you insist...
In my review i wrote enough reasons why i consider to be good. i am not someone who writes "This movie is great, and i won't tell you why".You still haven't addressed the specific and valid complaints of the article, the reviewer didn't simply write, "this movie was BS and I have a hundred reasons why that I won't say."
As i said, i didn't have to desperately try to find good parts in the movie. i thought it was very good for the most part just by viewing it, not by "concsious reflection". although i agree with you that I+II should never be regarded as official star wars episodes. (that's like the 4th time i explain this)Those were real flaws with the movie, and then some. Anyway, I don't see how it's rational and objective to look at a movie desperately trying to find things "that are a good part of the movie to you" while ignoring or disregarding everything that's bad (even when it's clearly and concisely pointed out in an article or review).
depends on how the term "realistic" fits to something like star wars anyway. but if we think of it as a reasonable world then - yeah there was realistic plot development and characters!!Yeah, like, it was in color, it had sound, oh, and it was STAR WARS!!! Yeah, great aspects to any quality story. Who needs realistic plot developments, characters, or dialogue?
trapped_soul said:But since we obviously have totally different opinions on this movie, we'll get nowhere with this.
Denial said:My feelings summed up: http://www.hatrack.com/revengeofthesith.shtml
"Griffith No More!" said:Indeed. Except I still laughed at Anakin's dialogue. =)
Anyway, here's a review that basically sums up my feelings, even addressing the hapless fans that have adopted these red-headed Star Wars stepchildren:
http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/_/id/6140458?pageid=rs.ReviewsMovieArchive&pageregion
It's like enough bad things can't be said about this movie. ;D
Wah wah wah said:Did anyone else notice the goofy faces when Mace Windu went to kill Palpatine?
After Palpatine kills those other three Jedi with Mace Windu they both start making stupid faces at eachother during the fight.