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Offline Henry Spencer

Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #100 on: June 14, 2009, 12:02:27 PM »
Some manga called "Ubel Blatt"



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When Wischtech threatened to invade the Empire of Szaalanden, the Emperor formed a party of 14 young warriors, armed them with Holy Lances and dispatched them on a mission to stop the invasion. 3 died on the way and they were called the Precious Departed; 4 betrayed the Emperor and were killed for it, they were named the Lances of Betrayal; the remaining 7 sucessfully completed the mission and were dubbed with the title of the 7 Heroes.

20 years have passed and the winds of war begin to blow again across Szaalanden .The Four Lances of Betrayal who were supposely dead reappear to launch a civil war right in the border lands. In the midst of these conflitcs appears a mysterious young boy with a scar over his left eye and a overwhelming swordmanship skill. Who is this kid who can slain whole regiments and has strange unnatural skills? In his eyes lays a dark past more old than his appearance betrays.



Ah gee, I wonder where the author got his inspiration from here? (The character also has a scar over his eye)

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #101 on: June 14, 2009, 01:28:24 PM »
An Elf looking character with a scar over the eye (but the eye is still there), with what looks to be a regular size sword, doesn't really look like a Berserk imitation.

Now I ride with the mocking and friendly ghouls on the night wind
And play by day in the catacombs
I know that light is not for me, save that of the moon
Yet in my new wildness and freedom I welcome the bitterness of alienage
For I know always that I am an outsider...an outsider...stranger in this century...for a time
A stranger among those who are still...men

Offline slan69

Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #102 on: June 16, 2009, 07:53:38 AM »
An Elf looking character with a scar over the eye (but the eye is still there), with what looks to be a regular size sword, doesn't really look like a Berserk imitation.



yea same here but if you were to talk about the girl kinda having a sorta Slan look then maybe and i am only talking about her clothes because she also has like a collar sort of thing around her neck but her crotch and big hooters are covered :serpico: but Slan looks way hotter in my opinion anyways
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Love, hate, pain, pleasure, life, death. Everything is there… This is human... This is demonic!

~Slan~

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #103 on: June 16, 2009, 08:07:16 AM »
yea same here but if you were to talk about the girl kinda having a sorta Slan look then maybe and i am only talking about her clothes because she also has like a collar sort of thing around her neck but her crotch and big hooters are covered :serpico:

That's a pretty generic look, sorry.

Offline slan69

Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #104 on: June 16, 2009, 08:10:26 AM »
That's a pretty generic look, sorry.

yes I think you are right after posting that i started to think back at how many other anime chicks have that look  :slan:
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Love, hate, pain, pleasure, life, death. Everything is there… This is human... This is demonic!

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #105 on: June 16, 2009, 02:28:16 PM »
Some manga called "Ubel Blatt"

Ah gee, I wonder where the author got his inspiration from here? (The character also has a scar over his eye)

Yeah, doesn't sound like much of an imitation to me. A character with a mysterious, dark past isn't exactly uncommon, either. It doesn't sound like it's ripping off Berserk at all.

Offline yesmilord

Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #106 on: June 17, 2009, 04:53:09 AM »
If anyone plays World of Warcraft, this sword that came out a few months ago was constantly compared (in forums and in game) to Guts' Dragonslayer.



For reference, the sword is called Armageddon, and it drops off of the Four Horsemen.
The sword is so long that it often clips into the ground.

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #107 on: June 18, 2009, 08:04:15 AM »
Is it me, or is every BIG SWORD being compared to the Dragon Slayer? 

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #108 on: June 18, 2009, 08:32:41 AM »
Is it me, or is every BIG SWORD being compared to the Dragon Slayer?

While it's sometimes unwarranted, most of the time it isn't. The fact is the Dragon Slayer is the prototypal giant sword, so it's only natural that people would compare all the others to it.

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #109 on: June 18, 2009, 07:59:57 PM »
Another WoW sword, often compared to the Dragonslayer:




The Armageddon get's a lot of Dragonslayer references though, because not only is it huge, but the hilt looks very similar also.

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #110 on: June 19, 2009, 03:36:00 AM »
haha

I haven't seen that thing in ages  :ganishka:

Offline Henry Spencer

Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #111 on: June 30, 2009, 06:51:05 PM »
Here's one that may, just may have been an influence on one character designer of Princess Crown for the Sega Saturn (and PSP). Well, the design of the sword anyway. Sorry if it's been brought up all ready, but...

Guy on the left:


Hmm...


Yup, not a rip off at al...


Not at all...


Great game too. Best on Saturn, possibly.

Side note: I wonder if Miura himself is aware of all of these "inspirations" or downright rip-offs?

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #112 on: June 30, 2009, 08:59:17 PM »
Doesn't look like much of a rip off of Berserk to me.  Just generic fantasy stuff + a big sword.
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Offline delusion

Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #113 on: September 07, 2009, 04:45:19 AM »
Ooo, I'm actually surprised this one hasn't been mentioned, but I searched and everything, so here goes~
I think this is probably more inspiration that right out imitation, but this is a character that always reminded me of Guts. It's Arngrim from the Valkyrie Profile series. Though there are a lot of differences, he just felt familiar to me. He has a similar attitude overall, and voice actor also. And Arngrim, in the original mythology was a berserker!
Here's some art of him:



I don't think it's a bad thing, as I really enjoy Arngrim in the series, but.. I thought it was pertinent to the topic!

Offline Deviance

Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #114 on: September 07, 2009, 06:11:59 AM »
His sword doesn't look as broad or long as Guts dragonslayer. He rather seems like a generic two-handed weapon fighter. And it's not uncommon for berserks to fight with overtly big weapon.

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #115 on: September 07, 2009, 07:13:55 AM »
One of the defining characteristics of the Dragon Slayer is that it's a plain slab of steel. Most of the swords posted here have a much prettier look. These look more like really big swords as opposed to homages to Berserk.

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #116 on: September 07, 2009, 08:08:23 AM »
Ooo, I'm actually surprised this one hasn't been mentioned, but I searched and everything, so here goes~
I think this is probably more inspiration that right out imitation, but this is a character that always reminded me of Guts. It's Arngrim from the Valkyrie Profile series.

The resemblance has been mentioned several times before, actually. Maybe not in this thread, but it was strong enough that many years ago a member here called argon even modified his sprite to create one of Guts.



His sword doesn't look as broad or long as Guts dragonslayer.



How about now? That's what the character actually looks like in the game. And delusion was posting about the character himself looking like Guts, not about his sword. But as a matter of fact, in the game the sword is disproportionate enough.

And it's not uncommon for berserks to fight with overtly big weapon.

Overtly big? Or do you mean overly big? Because traditionally, they were never described as using particularly large weapons. They even had shields. Their main characteristic (aside from the fact they went berserk in battle, obviously) was that they wore animal pelts (it's where the name comes from).

One of the defining characteristics of the Dragon Slayer is that it's a plain slab of steel. Most of the swords posted here have a much prettier look. These look more like really big swords as opposed to homages to Berserk.

It's true it's a "no frills" kind of deal, but THE main characteristic of the Dragon Slayer has always been its enormous size. Now of course some of the swords in this thread aren't homages and people just got overeager, but any sword that is huge beyond reason is quite likely to have been either directly or indirectly inspired by the Dragon Slayer. There were no giant swords before. Then Berserk came out, and now they're everywhere.

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #117 on: September 09, 2009, 09:47:13 PM »
Does anyone have a picture or a link to that Devil Hunt manga? I was just curious to actually read it or see some of the similarities but I can't actually find any info on the manga on the Internet (maybe I'm just not looking in the right places). I know someone posted a link but it's been dead for a while I think... anyway I'd really like to just check it out or see some pics. :)

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #118 on: September 10, 2009, 07:27:18 AM »
Does anyone have a picture or a link to that Devil Hunt manga? I was just curious to actually read it or see some of the similarities but I can't actually find any info on the manga on the Internet (maybe I'm just not looking in the right places). I know someone posted a link but it's been dead for a while I think... anyway I'd really like to just check it out or see some pics. :)

Here are a few of the old pictures I've got stored on my computer (coming directly from the website listed at the beginning of this thread).

















And keep in mind there's a lot more.

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #119 on: September 13, 2009, 06:47:36 AM »
Thanks for sharing those, wow I didn't think the resemblance would be so obvious. :O

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #120 on: September 13, 2009, 07:29:10 AM »
While looking at the similarities between this DH manga and Berserk, I had this exact expression.... :azan:

Then I saw the last picture with imitation Zodd and I was just disgusted.

Offline slan69

Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #121 on: September 13, 2009, 09:11:56 AM »
These imitations really put me on edge. Why start a manga when all your doing is ripping off of someone else's material. :mozgus: By the way thanks for sharing Aaz.
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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #122 on: September 13, 2009, 11:57:15 AM »
Holy crap! That's really interesting. It obviously can't be coincidence, I think there has definitely been some copying going on.

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Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #123 on: September 13, 2009, 01:48:27 PM »
Holy crap! That's really interesting. It obviously can't be coincidence, I think there has definitely been some copying going on.

Oh it's clear it was a rip-off. Publicly acknowledged and all. And while it took the most from Berserk, other series weren't spared either.

Offline Henry Spencer

Re: Imitation of Berserk
« Reply #124 on: September 13, 2009, 03:03:56 PM »
So who's the culprit? (The artist?)
And i cannot find the manga anywhere on the net, does it go by another name other than "Devil Hunt"?