Mozgus
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Mozgus is actually convinced that he is the people of Albion's saviour. He is obcessed with the Vatican and believes that when he was 'changed' by the Beherit-Apostle that he was blessed by God.
In his own twised way, he IS the saviour of Albion. He fights back against the Demon horde in volume 20 with his "GOD BREATH" and fights against the Black Demon (Guts). He also put the witch Casca to the fire, a proper end to a heretic.
So yes, Hes just a crazy priest. Hes not evil in my opinion, but that just gets into semantics, and its not something thats a yes, or no answer.
In his own twised way, he IS the saviour of Albion. He fights back against the Demon horde in volume 20 with his "GOD BREATH" and fights against the Black Demon (Guts). He also put the witch Casca to the fire, a proper end to a heretic.
So yes, Hes just a crazy priest. Hes not evil in my opinion, but that just gets into semantics, and its not something thats a yes, or no answer.
were the sexual tortures supposed to "clense" them? im assuming they were pagans, at least most of them. was this a "normal" way of torture in the middle ages?
Griffith
With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
He was in way, just not in how he imagined. Also, what exactly did the Egg-Apostle do to Mozgus? Not only was he given wings but he later transformed like a full-fledged Apostle. None of the others that the Egg-Apostle changed did that, did Mozgus get some special treatment (could the Egg-Apostle, being Behelit himself and all, create “true” Apostles as well as just spawn)?
Saving souls is a dirty business.
-Griffith
I think youre looking at it too deeply. The goat-apostle wasnt a true apostle, but it fought and resembled one. Though it only had one form, it cant be compared to Mozgus, because Mozgus change was gradual. First he had wings, then he had fire breath, then he had a complete metamorphosis. I also think it had to do with Mozgus devotion.
his trouble started when he messed with the wrong woman(caska)...
he shoulda seen it coming when he kidnapped her...
he shoulda seen it coming when he kidnapped her...
Vampire_Hunter_Bob
Cats are great
his fire breath came first, then his wings.
Yeah, Miura was going out on a limb by condemning the inquisition. Ballsy! I think Miura used this whole thing as an excuse to show weird torture stuff. I mean whenever he has a giant tentacle monster it tries to rape somebody. Then again whenever a tentacle monster shows up it ALWAYS tries to rape somebody. Learned that lesson at my birthday party last year. Ouch! My butt!
White_Hawk
The Only True Free Spirit / Dark Horse Rider
About the torture stuff...
it is real. They had most of the devices shown in Mozgus chill out room back in the good ol days.
There's a castle near my town that like a museum now, and there are also a few exhibits there that resemble the devices applied on the heretics of albion.
And Mozgus is sort of a weirdo, even when it comes to apostles.But I still have a week before I'll see how gatsu exactly messed him up....
it is real. They had most of the devices shown in Mozgus chill out room back in the good ol days.
There's a castle near my town that like a museum now, and there are also a few exhibits there that resemble the devices applied on the heretics of albion.
And Mozgus is sort of a weirdo, even when it comes to apostles.But I still have a week before I'll see how gatsu exactly messed him up....
But he's not an Apostle, you know? ^^;
"Gatsu"? So you still don't believe it was a bad translation?
How was it "extraordinary"?
Nothing, if I remember well?
Griffith
With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
Well, extraordinary in comparison to others tapped by the Egg Apostle. The Goat Man (Goatse) and Mozgus’ disciples changed only once, with about the same power as your typical Apostle-Spawn, while Mozgus went through a second and sudden transformation that gave him an incredible amount of power. He seemed kind of like a “Pseudo-Apostle” if you will, or a “Demi-Apostle”.
-Griffith
P.S. For some reason I have the idea in my head that the Egg Apostle’s Beherit was supposed to have been green, any truth to that or just my imagination? :-/
Wereallmad
I love YaBB 1 Gold!
wouldn't it have made more sense being red?
And BTW, why do people think that the only beherit types are green and red?
The count's beherit was yellow, with freckle-like things.
And Niko's was blue.
And BTW, why do people think that the only beherit types are green and red?
The count's beherit was yellow, with freckle-like things.
And Niko's was blue.
Griffith
With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
Only if he was a God Hand. :-/
That's not what I think, that's why I'm asking, I thought the Egg-Apostle's green one was supposed to have special signifigance (if it was green, that is).
-Griffith
P.S. http://carnac.tripod.com/dafight.gif Hahahaha!
Zondark (sp?) changed several times as well...
Well, yeah, since that's what he was? ^_^;;
Humans "changed" by Apostles are all called "Shito Modoki" ("pseudo Apostles").
Rochine created different "Shito Modoki" with different kind of powers. Her "guardians" were nothing like her "children". So Mozgus having different powers than the others isn't that surprising, in my humble opinion...
I don't think we know anything about the color of the Egg Apostle?
Griffith
With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
Yeah, but the nature of his transformations were different; he gradually changed, and partly because he was repairing himself. Mozgus just transformed instantly into a brand new form.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! You’ve helped me more than you could know…well, maybe you would know?
I meant the color of the Beherit he used to BECOME the Egg Apostle, though I suppose it wasn’t defined as any color either.
-Griffith
P.S. Thanks for answering all my questions Olivier, I really need to have all this stuff absolutely correct for the GH Guide, that’s why I’m such a bother about it.
Among Rochine's "Guardians", there were two former knights, and they were far stronger than the other ones.
So I guess it explains why Mozgus was so powerful, compared to his disciples and to the "goat"... His fanatism made him far more powerful than the others, in my humble opinion...
If you were wondering if Rochine's "Guardians" were Apostles or "Pseudo Apostles", let's just say that it's a matter of debate... ^^;
Since the thieves Guts met in the beginning of the chapter all became "Guardians" in a matter of hours, it seems, I'd say that they're not Apostles... Besides, an Apostle is supposed to do as he likes, so I don't think he would serve another Apostle... I guess he _could_ if he wanted to, but it seems unlikely, doesn't it (and no, Griffith isn't an mere Apostle ^^)?
But on the other hand, Rochine's "Guardians" attacked the Hawk Soldiers' camp along with her and the Count... So it looks like they were gathering for the Occultation, just like the Apostles...
But then again, maybe they just "escorted" Rochine... They're "Guardians", after all...
I don't think so?
Griffith
With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
I agree with that, but they were also much older, perhaps it’s partly an issue of time and “maturity” as well.
No, I never thought they were full-fledged Apostles. But I’m glad Pseudo-Apostle is a real term and not just something I made up.
Oh, really, I hadn’t noticed.;) But like I've said before, they may serve Griffith simply because it’s in their best interests.
-Griffith