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Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« on: October 15, 2005, 05:58:04 PM »
Well, who do you think would win?  Cloud or Guts?  Both have relatively huge swords, and we know that Guts (with Berserker Armor) can jump relatively high like Cloud in Advent Children.

How do you think the battle would go?  What would happen?  :beast:
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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2005, 06:40:15 PM »
This is a dumb topic, but what the heck...

My gil is on Cloud. Guts is just a regular guy, Cloud is a genetically-enhanced solider with magic powers. No contest. It's like pitting the Punisher against Thor, or Green Arrow against Martian Manhunter.

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2005, 08:32:42 PM »
Tsurugi just means "sword" you know...

This is a dumb topic, but what the heck...

Yeah, dumb indeed. I foresee a lock before this hits page 2. If it's not deleted before of course.

Guts is just a regular guy

Oh, is he? I don't think so. And he's been killing creatures that are beyond genetic enhancement. Also, the Berserk's armor isn't about jumping high.

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2005, 11:51:22 PM »
Tsurugi just means "sword" you know...

Yeah, dumb indeed. I foresee a lock before this hits page 2. If it's not deleted before of course.

Oh, is he? I don't think so. And he's been killing creatures that are beyond genetic enhancement. Also, the Berserk's armor isn't about jumping high.
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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2005, 12:12:40 AM »
Well, I can see this is worth my time. =)

This is a dumb topic, but what the heck...

My gil is on Cloud. Guts is just a regular guy, Cloud is a genetically-enhanced solider with magic powers. No contest. It's like pitting the Punisher against Thor, or Green Arrow against Martian Manhunter.

No way, while he's powerful, Cloud has no actual fighting ability, remember? He's just a hack puss boy on steroids with a bad haircut. Guts would easily outstratagize him. The same way Superman has been taken to task by both Batman and Spiderman, respectively. :carcus:

havent you seen FF: Advent Children?!  :isidro:

Yeah, and that's exactly why Cloud would probably die instantly. Judging from the film, all he can do is stupidly spin around in mid-air without actually causing anyone physical damage. Thus, I predict Guts would simply side step Cloud's ballet O' faggotry and smash him to pieces with one half-hearted swing, "Ewww, got loser blood all over my sword!" Thus flows the tears of a million nerds. :guts:

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2005, 12:31:57 AM »
I predict Guts would simply side step Cloud's ballet O' faggotry and smash him to pieces with one half-hearted swing, "Ewww, got loser blood all over my sword!" Thus flows the tears of a million nerds. :guts:

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2005, 12:34:10 AM »
Cloud has no genetic modifications.  What happened to him is he had jenova cells and mako pumped into him... a process that didn't do him one bit of good.  In case you're confused, he was never a SOLDIER, just regular Shin-Ra military.  

Guts is a living legend.  I mean literally, he lives on the border between reality and legend.  Guts' abilities are probably equally determined by his willpower and physical ability.  The Berserker armor awakens when his rage rises and pushes his limits further.  

All that said, I still think Cloud has the advantage.  Guts doesn't have motive to fight Cloud.  To rage, no berserk armor, all he has is exceptional will to live.  Cloud has his Omnislash v5 and materia.

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2005, 12:39:25 AM »
Guts would win just on the sole reason that he ain't no whiney bitch.

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2005, 12:52:45 AM »
Guts would win just on the sole reason that he ain't no whiney bitch.

Thread's over for me..

Shut up, Cloud would win with his cool six-sided sword!! This isn't lame and juvenile at all!

BTW, anybody here see USC at Notre Dame?

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2005, 01:52:09 AM »
Thread's still, technically, dead to me. buuut.


BTW, anybody here see USC at Notre Dame?

No I missed it, heard it was good.  If ur a USC fan, wo0t.  If notre dam, ouch: that has to hurt.

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2005, 01:52:59 AM »

Yeah, and that's exactly why Cloud would probably die instantly. Judging from the film, all he can do is stupidly spin around in mid-air without actually causing anyone physical damage. Thus, I predict Guts would simply side step Cloud's ballet O' faggotry and smash him to pieces with one half-hearted swing, "Ewww, got loser blood all over my sword!" Thus flows the tears of a million nerds. :guts:

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Beyond that, I have nothing to add to this very important debate.  :troll:


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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2005, 02:38:04 AM »
I think we're all missing whats really important here.  Guts vs. Cloud is one thing.
But what about Guts vs. Hulk Hogan!?!

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2005, 03:09:39 AM »
XD That picture owns, CnC.

Although I would say that Cloud has a lot of technical skill with a sword, and could probably parry Guts' attacks for a while, he probably couldn't withstand Guts in full rage.  If anything, Cloud would try to get away from him due to his full strength.  Plus, Cloud would probably keep on trying to reason with Guts, and reasoning with Guts only pisses him off even more.

As for Guts vs. Hogan, heh...well, I'd say Hogan would win due to pure showmanship.  Guts' would be annoyed and just walk away.  :carcus:
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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2005, 03:33:27 AM »
I like FF7 alot but.. besides the fact Guts is the superior strategist by a longshot, I think he is just a straight up better swordsman than Cloud. The jumping would mostly be pointless by itself.

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2005, 01:08:01 PM »
But what about Guts vs. Hulk Hogan!?!

Where's my credit for this? :puck:

reasoning with Guts only pisses him off even more.

Really, I don't think trying to avoid a fight would piss him off if you aren't his enemy for some specific reason. It's usually just that people don't know when to say "ok, me small you big, me flee far away quick". He's not a bloodthirsty murderer.

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2005, 02:35:56 PM »
The reason it seem why this thread may have exist till now is probably because Aaz trying to rectify some common misconception regarding Guts character and skills...



This so lame... something like Goku vs Guts... Goku would rape Guts in his butt with his supersaiyajin...
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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2005, 05:52:27 PM »
This so lame... something like Goku vs Guts... Goku would rape Guts in his butt with his supersaiyajin...

Hahaha, in his own way, Smith wins. :guts:

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2005, 12:57:45 AM »
Well, who do you think would win?  Cloud or Guts?  Both have relatively huge swords, and we know that Guts (with Berserker Armor) can jump relatively high like Cloud in Advent Children.

How do you think the battle would go?  What would happen?  :beast:
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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2005, 05:45:09 PM »
well this post seems pointless but I'll reply just for the hell of it. who would win? easy....Guts. well Griffith summed it up nicely I might add.
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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2005, 05:50:49 PM »
Goku blows up the planet for the win!

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2005, 06:36:56 AM »
When DBZ wins, everyone looses.

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2005, 10:41:08 PM »
I have to say,though the movie is basically just a fireworks show, Cloud's sword is pretty fantastic.  Square may have been reduced to a triangle, but their weapon design is still quite good.

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2005, 12:19:30 AM »
It's a patchwork of swords, I'm not sure I'd call that fantastic personally. Yeah sure it's original (though in the end it's always just a Dragon Slayer rip off :SK:), but it also doesn't make much sense from any point of view.

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Re: Who would Win? Dragon Slayer vs. First Tsurugi
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2005, 12:58:14 AM »
Its like a swiss army sword!  only you can only use 2 of them and its completely impractical...  go square! :troll:
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