Episode 271

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Mad Angel Loki said:
I will speak about the experience wich is something very important for me and I already said it but he is an old general of Ganishka so he must be experienced...
About his powers I dunno how magic work but my logic is the less time is take the weakest a spell is...so if he can cast the tornado so quick it must be one of his weakest spell so the strongest one must be terrifying

Yeah, but don't you think his lack of proper magic knowledge (i.e. seemingly knowing less than Schierke) is a disadvantage? If he's always just limited himself to serving Ganishka and deriving his power from the emperor, his experience in itself won't be as significant on the issue of the battle. Also, the fact his spells don't take long to cast doesn't necessarily mean they're weak, it's just a different kind of magic (what Schierke said). Still taking the example of a possible Ganishka-powered magic, if he just draws energy from Ganishka to cast spells it would be normal for it to be faster than going to the astral world and summoning an elemental spirit. Pretty much anything would, actually. And even if he were to use a more powerful spell, I don't think it'd take him much longer to cast it.

Mad Angel Loki said:
Daiba was still "playing" with Guts and was surely underestimating him but the moment he'll think that Guts is a real treat for his life he will take him seriously...and use all his grampy tricks to survive

I didn't have the feeling he was just playing around after Guts landed on that ship. He didn't expect it and really tried to kill him, that's why Guts had a hard time getting back to the group. As for "grampy surviving tricks"... Sounds like MGS4. We'll see how it turns out I guess. :serpico:

Mad Angel Loki said:
Finally if our sorcerer is really in a bad position he can certainly call Daka(s?) to support him

Certainly? How is it certain? It's a definite possibility, but Schierke's killed quite a lot of them recently, he might not have much troops left in this part of the harbor.

QUeeN typhonblue said:
Maybe a bigger fish will make an appearance and draw daiba's attention away from Guts and posse.

Maybe Irvine will just snipe him from some nearby hill. :void:
 
I agree with you on the lack of proper experience thing but I don't think that Daiba's power come exclusively from Ganishka,maybe he was a wizard before knowing Ganishka and he received a "power up" from the emperor like an ability to control familliars and using the fog...on the other hand I still think whatever kind of magic it is the longer the spell take the stronger it is now that may be a "simple" reasoning but things often work that way...
And about the troops remaining we can see in episode 268 that there is still a lot of Daka even after Schierke cast the Wheel of Fire(page 18)so you're wrong on that point...
Anyway I hope the next episode will light us(me) on Daiba's real ability...
 

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Mad Angel Loki said:
on the other hand I still think whatever kind of magic it is the longer the spell take the stronger it is now that may be a "simple" reasoning but things often work that way...

Yeah, I think that's a simplistic reasoning. Ganishka instantly shot lightning in volume 27, does that mean it was weak?

Mad Angel Loki said:
And about the troops remaining we can see in episode 268 that there is still a lot of Daka even after Schierke cast the Wheel of Fire(page 18)so you're wrong on that point...

I said "in this part of the harbor". If it takes them 10 minutes to get to the group they won't be of much use. Besides, we saw them fleeing when the Wheel of Fire appeared, so the remaining ones might not have stuck around. They were nowhere to be seen in the last 3 episodes, so I'm not calling that "certain".
 

Dark Wanderer

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Very interesting episode, certainly! Now we have about more of an idea of the power of the opponent Guts & Company faces - not just a funny, floating old man, if anyone believed he was just that :p.

Interesting, the way Schierke "cleared" his eyes - perhaps they've now found a way for Guts to use the power of the armor without putting his comrades in danger? Of course, we don't know for how long she may be able to do that - nor what toll it'll take on both her & Guts in the end.

Wonder why not the others have tried to do anything yet - I'd have expected Serpico to try and use some wind on him by now anyway (even if Daiba might just block it with a tornado, similar to how the Kelpie in Enoch blocked Serpico's wind) - but perhaps they're just to awed by the fight as it is now - and since Guts may to them not appear to be in any serious danger yet, they've decided it better to not interfere...

Nice catching of the mast, too! Through as Guts says, it's sure to have painful consequences later.. T_T.

Now, let's see what tricks Schierke and Guts may use against Daiba in the next episode... :3
 

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Dark Wanderer said:
I'd have expected Serpico to try and use some wind on him by now anyway (even if Daiba might just block it with a tornado, similar to how the Kelpie in Enoch blocked Serpico's wind)

Well, Guts didn't control himself at first, so interfering could have been dangerous, and after that he was probably busy being amazed at his acrobatics. There's also the range factor, he might need to get closer to seriously attack him.
 

Dark Wanderer

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Aazealh said:
Well, Guts didn't control himself at first, so interfering could have been dangerous, and after that he was probably busy being amazed at his acrobatics. There's also the range factor, he might need to get closer to seriously attack him.

There's those reasons of course. So let's see if it changes the next few episodes. He should've gotten voer hos bafflement and since Guts seem to be in control for the time being, shouldn't be as dangerous now...

Oh, and I forgot: Thanks for the episode, as always! :)
 

Griffith

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Dark Wanderer said:
since Guts seem to be in control for the time being, shouldn't be as dangerous now...

If you're saying Guts shouldn't be as dangerous, I don't know that that's true in this case. The Beast helps Guts out-monster things like Apostles and the Makara on a physical level, but if not for Schierke bringing him back to his senses, Daiba would have already turned him into paste. In this situation, I think it could be most advantageous for Guts to have his wits about him and Schierke in his ear.

I like that Miura is establishing that the Beast isn't a viable cop-out to any challenge Guts faces.
 

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it was briefly discussed last episode. I had thought perhaps that was a possibility until it was pointed out she still has that little tether sticking out of her head which connects her to her body.

That, and the fact that this episode she was able to free herself of the armor's od makes me think her being stuck is highly unlikely.
 

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IgnusDei said:
what happens if Schierke can't get out? like, never ever?

Practically all her character development would be in vain? Even if we put aside the hints going against that hypothesis, I don't think this has any chance of occurring.
 

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Tell Me Why said:
Can someone post the pictures from the episode in this topic like they used to?

Here you go: links removed

But you guys should really find a way to download zip files, it's not that hard.
 
Nice sound clip Aazealh :serpico:

Cant wait to see what how this fight progresses, first I think that Guts saving the crew was a sign to the Shaman of weakness, so he will start trying to kill them and while Guts is saving them Daiba will go for the cheap shot. This is where Serpico will fly in and kill that hooka smoking Kushan, like I have always said he is the Shaman Assasin :chomp:
 

Forest Wraith

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Thanks for the scans Aazealh: I'm also thinking that Serpico is going to earn his keep again. It would be great to see him dodge around Daiba's attacks, perhaps he will even learn how to further deepen his bond the wind-element familiars to move himself faster. Or maybe even a long-ranged attack using them to propel and or control the flight of an object? Such as a chunk of masonry or a bomb thrown by Isidro . . . Or maybe even Isidro himself for that matter?
 
Honestly, I think you guys are overestimating Serpico's abilities, though I agree he's been underutilized recently. With what we've seen of that Shaman's abilities, he wouldn't last more than an uttered syllable. True, we've onle seen the Shaman display wind powers so far, but that seemed the least of his abilities. And I doubt that Serpico, even with the aid of the elves, could survive a demon tornado the way the armored Guts did (with injuries).
 

hanafubuku

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IgnusDei said:
here's a thought: what happens if Schierke can't get out? like, never ever?

Guts will become more feminine :isidro:

Oh! He will pick up on Schierke's magic and become a Holy Swordsman - like T.G. Cid!
 

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Mista_B said:
With what we've seen of that Shaman's abilities, he wouldn't last more than an uttered syllable.

He's not a shaman (you can choose between sorcerer, wizard and magician). Also, aren't you underestimating Serpico's abilities yourself? To be effective, Daiba's attacks would have to hit him, and he's pretty good at dodging. If Daiba's already busy with Guts, I think he could get a fair chance. That's hardly an unreasonable speculation.
 

IgnusDei

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hanafubuku said:
Oh! He will pick up on Schierke's magic and become a Holy Swordsman - like T.G. Cid!

BERSERK TACTICS!

the fanboy in me screams "that would be such a cool game omg!"

Well, Serpico aside, there's two other characters that have yet to do anything against Daiba: Isidro is one, although i suppose he's done enough, and though Roderick isn't equipped to deal with the supernatural, it'd be nice to see him pull a trick. It's time they both stopped being spectators, their characters deserve better, i think.
 
I'm wondering about something. Is Daiba the ONLY person...or thing on that ship. Has anyone else thougth that or is it just me? I mean, I doubt some new character (henchman to Daiba) wll pop out from the bottom saying, "What's going on up here?"...I dont think something like that will happen, but you never know. Perhaps Daiba has some sort of escort with him on the ship...as I type this I'm thinking, 'it IS just him', so, we'll see.
 

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Proj2501 said:
I'm wondering about something. Is Daiba the ONLY person...or thing on that ship.

His ship has oars, there must be at least enough people to row on board (slaves?). Also, we saw a subordinate reporting to him in episode 243, so that ship isn't uninhabited. Anyway there has to be a crew to maneuver it, but the real question is whether they will/can fight or not.

Proj2501 said:
Perhaps Daiba has some sort of escort with him on the ship...as I type this I'm thinking, 'it IS just him', so, we'll see.

Well the group of Makara that Guts defeated in episodes 269/270 could have been Daiba's personal guard, like I said earlier.
 
IgnusDei said:
It's time they both stopped being spectators

Yes! Roderick has been dead weight on the group for far too long! It's time he started fighting Kushan sorcerers by himself, for once!
 
Aazealh said:
His ship has oars, there must be at least enough people to row on board (slaves?). Also, we saw a subordinate reporting to him in episode 243, so that ship isn't uninhabited. Anyway there has to be a crew to maneuver it, but the real question is whether they will/can fight or not.

Well the group of Makara that Guts defeated in episodes 269/270 could have been Daiba's personal guard, like I said earlier.

Well, why doesn't that Daiba dude use his magic for the transportation of the ship he is on, instead of having a crew to maneuver it (If he can make tornado's etc he should be able to move the ship doesn't he? In any case this isn't certain. Same goes for the subordinate you were talking about. Maybe he already left the ship sooner or switched ships or something...
 
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