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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #75 on: October 23, 2001, 08:57:53 AM »

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Yeah, the last time he was this bad, he was foiled by the fact he only had one arm.

He definitly doesn't have that problem here.


When was that? (sorry i still haven't read all the Manga)

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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #76 on: October 23, 2001, 10:25:52 AM »
That was after the eclipse when Casca and Guts where staying in Godo's mine.
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #77 on: October 23, 2001, 10:34:57 AM »
Guts was gonna shag Casca but he couldn't because he only had 1 arm?

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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #78 on: October 23, 2001, 10:45:01 AM »
No, It looked like Guts stopped himself. Casca was eatting soup and she got it all over her shirt and then Guts ripped her shirt off and put her against the wall, Casca then ran away from him screaming.
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #79 on: October 23, 2001, 06:49:37 PM »

oh that was very sad scene to me. i can remeber.
two lovers after God hand's occultation.
two members survived bearing serious scars.
what good point do you think in Berserk in a word?
i think guts, our protagonist, are not super-hero.
that means Guts is just a human being like us.
and this can be Miura's intention.
but we can find how bitterly a man fight against the severe fate!!
so if guts rapes Casca(i don't want) in 190 episode, it can show us Guts' weak point. maybe Casca has another baby?
i feel a pity for Guts. but it can't justify his mistake with Casca.
mmm. i think Griffith are gonna get Casca again because he needs her.
and then two (Casca and Griffith: once guts' lover and friend) afflict Guts very cruely.
but i know Casca's insanity is very important to make  this story going on. Unless Casca is mad, bereserk can't be going well.
because there can't exist both lovers and revengers in this manga.
so Miura made Casca insane. He put Guts' love away for a while(or forever)
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #80 on: October 23, 2001, 10:40:30 PM »

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because there can't exist both lovers and revengers in this manga.
so Miura made Casca insane. He put Guts' love away for a while(or forever)


That's a really good point... if Casca didn't go into her current state, Guts probably wouldn't have done all the badass stuff that he has.  If Casca becomes sane again, it's going to completely change Guts's actions.  She already has a huge effect on him in her current state.  One thing I wonder though: would Guts even try to kill Griffith anymore?  I mean, considering all that's happened with Casca confronting him and the demon baby that he now is part of...I wonder if Guts could really go through with it.  :o

It definately seems that Guts's rage towards Griffith is fading.  His rage is indirect now, and he has many enemies.  I will be interested to see how it all plays out.  

BTW, when's the new young animal coming out?  Is someone going to give a summary of chap. 190?  ???
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #81 on: October 23, 2001, 10:57:50 PM »
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BTW, when's the new young animal coming out?  Is someone going to give a summary of chap. 190?  ???

It should be out tomorrow, and as long as Gorilla Guts and Eirias still live in Japan you can count on constant summaries, so yes.
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #82 on: October 24, 2001, 01:00:43 AM »
Excellent  ;D

As long as I know what's going on, I don't even need scans.  The image will come eventually, when I get the volume in which said episode is contained.  ;)

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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #83 on: October 25, 2001, 02:58:57 PM »
I take back everything I said about Guts killing Casca.  Guts love Casca more than his own life.  He live because of her.  I bet my life that Guts won't do anything to hurt Casca in the next chapter.
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #84 on: October 25, 2001, 03:19:57 PM »
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I bet my life that Guts won't do anything to hurt Casca in the next chapter.


You're dead, sorry.  :P
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #85 on: October 25, 2001, 03:24:05 PM »
I don't think so. ;D

I know alot of crazy things happen in Berserk but I don't think Miura is going have Guts harm Casca.  NO WAY. >:(

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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #86 on: October 25, 2001, 03:36:52 PM »
Well...Guts personality or any characters in manga are always somewhat different from beginning to end.  Also, you should remember "chracter developement".  

You could argue that Guts "lured" the she-apostle by making himself as a bait, and his personality doesnt match.  Then again, Guts went through alot of shit since the beginning.

Maybe that Witch-girl and that other elf might encouter Guts b4 takes advantage of Casca.


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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #87 on: October 25, 2001, 05:57:53 PM »

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You're dead, sorry.  :P


So what's your summary of the chapter? Or is that just an educated guess?  ;)
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #88 on: October 25, 2001, 07:45:32 PM »

the summary of this chapter, i think, has very important clue to Guts' confused mental state.
as i posted before, guts is not surreal superhero. he's been trying to keep his old-day lover safe even for himself. but guts has to make a choice of two, Casca and revenge.
skullknight warned him to do before.
so, my conclusion is he's gonna hurt Casca anyway, which will make Guts leave her or she leave him.

shit!  190 episode is supposed to come out TOODAY!
we're gonna find out within a day.
that makes me very happy. 8) ;D :D
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #89 on: October 25, 2001, 07:53:53 PM »
I'm referring to 190. Olivier seems to know/think Guts has done something bad so I was wondering if he had a summary of it already.
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #90 on: October 26, 2001, 12:11:16 AM »
Or.... could it be that Casca will actually like this? That this is a way of getting her to warm up to Guts again after being frightened by him lately.

Body contact is always nice... and I don't think that she needs to be sane to apprechiate that. In fact, this might be a blessing in disguise as it might serve to start to lessen her rape traumas. Not that they will ever go away completely... (just look at Guts) but he might be able to do her the same service she was doing him: To begin to thaw that fear.

Just an opposite speculation now that the chapter is approaching...  ;)
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #91 on: October 26, 2001, 12:40:53 AM »

yeah that's what i really hoped.
but things can't be going so easily and happily for Guts!!
poor Casca!
How could it be?
Why did Miura make like that? Maybe he wanted Casca to have Guts' another baby? and he wants Casca to be plunged into sheer victim?
i've just gone home from my work. i couldn't drive well after that news. sob,sob
Guts' love goes broken? really?
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #92 on: October 26, 2001, 04:47:21 AM »
Does anyone think that Casca may want to leave Guts if she regains her sanity?
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #93 on: October 26, 2001, 04:58:29 AM »
Maybe the parallel with Femto and the Eclipse will continue, if Guts is going to rape Casca?
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Re: Chapter 189 thoughts (spoiler for chapter)
« Reply #94 on: December 04, 2001, 10:05:25 AM »

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i think he still legitamtely loves her, despite what that shadow beast said. he wants to cure her and return her to the woman he fell in love with.


Since I am still playing catch up with alot of the story of Beserk, care to explain.

What shadow beast and what did he say?

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