A.C said:now hold on a minute. i was under the impression that the king banished Godo because Godo made a dragonslaying sword that nobody could wheel... which sort of implies that the king never used it.
He's clearly wielding it with one hand in this shot.bastard_swordsman said:Maybe he used a crane? Or just a group of soldier lifted it?
space_elevator said:Speaking of this mystery kingdom that commissioned the DS, it couldn't have been Eath, could it?
space_elevator said:Lots of nobles and military commanders from all the "mainland" kingdoms saw the DS in Vritannis
space_elevator said:the location of the kingdom that requested the DS isn't suggested by the text, is it?
space_elevator said:It doesn't really spell out the relationship between Godo's lord and the castle/king Godo escaped from.
space_elevator said:It would at least explain how Godo could safely hide near his original workplace
bastard_swordsman said:That does make me question where Aolsier was king of
Gah! How did I forget about Tudor... *sits in the corner with dunce hat*Aazealh said:Tudor of course!
Yay! Reasonable doubt! I can't express my joy.Aazealh said:It's not impossible, ... But who knows.
Aazealh said:...after what happened to Godot the DS was probably not a popular topic at the court.
Can't translantions be confounding? I was referring to the same "local guy" via the DH interpretation, and basing part of what I said on a comment Erica makes about Godot previously. DH went with "Daddy's real famous in town", blah blah, "local lord"; Puella renders it "called a master smith in this town", "the lords back then". I'm not sure where Godot's hut is in relation to this town, and the sequence of events in general. Could anyone enlighten me?Aazealh said:Godot has no lord... The local guy he made equipment for most likely isn't related to the kingdom he used to live in. Don't forget he escaped that kingdom in order to save his life.
No, there isn't anything like that in the background he and Erica supply. But thinking about it, the DS was made a long time ago. Was Godot at the hut when he made it, and if not, is it still a certainty it was made from the precious Elf Metal? All I remember is a statement that he settled there because of the ore, not that the DS was made from it. I had based my statement on that, but now that you pointed that out I can't recall if it was established that the DS was made from the ore in the cave. Did Skull Knight say so at some point? Naturally the lack of affirmative proof would not mean it was not so, but it seems worth mentioning. The first sword Guts used on the bulldog/pig apostle a Godot's place likewise isn't explicitly identified as being made out of local ore, but since it was made so recently at that location one assumes so. It didn't seem to gain any particular bonus from that, if it was made from...Elftainuim...Dwarfanite...ooh, I've got it, Aolsier Metal.Aazealh said:Nothing hints anything about Godot's "original workplace" in the manga. I don't think you should assume that.
space_elevator said:Yay! Reasonable doubt! I can't express my joy.
space_elevator said:Sorry, I was just trying to suggest the author had an opportunity to expand the backstory there, and didn't. That's no basis for conclusions, but it was the last opportunity for Guts (w/DS) to interact with those groups and expand on his relationships with them, for a good long while anyway.
space_elevator said:If we're going to get DS backstory, I'd guess it could only occur where Guts is/going, or with Rickert & Erica, since they're really the only characters in the story I assume would express knowledge or interest in the DS.
space_elevator said:Y's (like the game?)
space_elevator said:I was referring to the same "local guy" via the DH interpretation, and basing part of what I said on a comment Erica makes about Godot previously. DH went with "Daddy's real famous in town", blah blah, "local lord"; Puella renders it "called a master smith in this town", "the lords back then". I'm not sure where Godot's hut is in relation to this town, and the sequence of events in general. Could anyone enlighten me?
space_elevator said:1. Young Godot does work for a local guy/lord, who lives in a town.
space_elevator said:Is it the same town Erica brags Godot is known in; near the mine?
space_elevator said:2. A King wants a sword to kill a dragon.
This is a different person than Young Godot's previously mentioned employer right? And is there any indication of how this king relate to that town, or the Young Godot town, if there are two different towns?
space_elevator said:3. Godot makes the sword, pisses off "the castle".
Did he go to the castle, send the sword to the castle, mail them a picture of it? How much is absolutely stated? The DS either never changed hands, was returned to him, or he took it back somehow, because he's still got it when Guts shows up (how explicit is the timeframe?) fifty years later. ...Well, we can rule out it not changing hands, on account of Supreme King Aolsier, duh.
space_elevator said:4.Godot escapes the castle. Subsequently, lives in the hut where Guts interacts with him.
Does it state he physically escaped custody, or "escaped" prosecution/a punishment?
space_elevator said:perhaps his life is spared by the king (Supreme King Aolsier, it just roll off the tongue.)
space_elevator said:"you'll never work in this town again", hence his current digs.
space_elevator said:No, there isn't anything like that in the background he and Erica supply. [...] Was Godot at the hut when he made it
space_elevator said:is it still a certainty it was made from the precious Elf Metal?
space_elevator said:The first sword Guts used on the bulldog/pig apostle a Godot's place likewise isn't explicitly identified as being made out of local ore, but since it was made so recently at that location one assumes so.
space_elevator said:By the way, that image isn't from volume 14.
Aazealh said:He was sentenced to death, but promptly escaped from a maximum security jail. He ran far, far away, and settled in a desolated place in which he had never come before. There his masterful smithing skills made him famous to the local hicks.
A.C said:that's very specific, i'm not sure we can know for sure if he was ever imprisoned or sentenced to death.
A.C said:and why do you think it was a maximum security jail?
A.C said:Godo said they almost hung him out to dry... which could mean that they intended to hang him, but that seems awefully harsh punishment and i'm not sure Godo is saying it litterary.
A.C said:now for Aolsier. is there any scans of these removed pages to be found like episode 83? or maybe just a transcript of the text on the pages? if all the info on Aolsier has been removed from the volumes then it's a little hard to discuss him.
Aazealh said:And he escaped from under the castle, where he was detained. What's under a castle except for jails?
A.C said:i can't recall a sentence like that from the volume. was it also removed by Miura?