"Also", in my opinion. That's "mata", not "mada"? ^^;by Cronus' translation for "ano monomo matta..."
I guess "still" means "also" or "yet" in this dialog.
"Also", in my opinion. That's "mata", not "mada"? ^^;by Cronus' translation for "ano monomo matta..."
I guess "still" means "also" or "yet" in this dialog.
Especially since Slan looks at him when she says that maybe it was actually one among several foreseen possibilities.
And Void remains silent.
Ah yes, the “Guts Trigger Theory” as I call it. Where Guts and Griffith are equal and complimentary pieces on the casualty chessboard. Griffith’s function is to be totally ambitious; to see what one man can accomplish. Guts function is to counteract this ambition and temper Griffith’s power. Griffith is the positive, Guts the negative; by opposing the each other, they power Idea’s plan (I love cheesy metaphors and puns =).So Void may have allready know that the skullknight was going to interfere and Guts and Caska were going to escape, could this be part of the plan that idea has, could Guts' journey be part of it.
what is than the result out of this!?Ah yes, the “Guts Trigger Theory” as I call it. Where Guts and Griffith are equal and complimentary pieces on the casualty chessboard. Griffith’s function is to be totally ambitious; to see what one man can accomplish. Guts function is to counteract this ambition and temper Griffith’s power. Griffith is the positive, Guts the negative; by opposing the each other, they power Idea’s plan (I love cheesy metaphors and puns =).
-Griffith
Notice I didn't mention anything relating to triggers? Figure that part out yourself.
Ah yes, the “Guts Trigger Theory” as I call it. Where Guts and Griffith are equal and complimentary pieces on the casualty chessboard. Griffith’s function is to be totally ambitious; to see what one man can accomplish. Guts function is to counteract this ambition and temper Griffith’s power. Griffith is the positive, Guts the negative; by opposing the each other, they power Idea’s plan (I love cheesy metaphors and puns =).
-Griffith
P.S. Notice I didn't mention anything relating to triggers? Figure that part out yourself. :)
go on!so you say guts was primordially part of idea's plan? interesting.
You say Griffith is totally ambitious. but ambition itself wasn't enough for a man (griffith) to reach his goal, his dream, the castle, or however you call it.
one also needs to be an absolute genius and one needs to act regardless of any loss in order to fulfill his dream. griffith is the only person who comes up to his mark.
what did i want to say? i don't know...
Er.. steel one?I thought behelits only had one owner and the steel one belongs to the count doesn't it?
Also he would have asked flora how to use it to summon god hand and attack them yeh?
In the Dreamcast game, Niko and Balzac used the same Beherit.i really meant to ask a behelit can be used by more than one person
Olivier PLAYED the dreamcast game?! Wow, I had no idea.In the Dreamcast game, Niko and Balzac used the same Beherit.
No, I didn't. -__-;Olivier PLAYED the dreamcast game?!
Causality to live up its name should be composed only by exceptions. In fact whatever there is some sort of rule there is order. Despite their claim to contrary also Godhand since there are leaders and followers are a structure of order. You should not mistake order with good and caos or casuality with evil.And in fact if Griffith aspire to became King...more order than that I don't know were you can find it.puella said:yup, yup, yup. Skully says at the end of ch. 203 " Guts may still be one of the variables guided by the laws of causality"
Can this mean causality may have some exceptions?
If so, I don't think Causality is flawless.
Ralwatt said:If Guts became an apostle he'd be becoming everything he hates. He might have done that once, but his character has progressed and developed a lot since then and I don't believe that he would do it anymore.
Ralwatt said:As for Beherits being reusable, they have to be really, otherwise there would be very few apostles about.
Ralwatt said:Also, it brings up the interesting notion that there could be more than two 'levels' of Beherit. Not just the 'standard' and 'God Hand' Beherits, but ones of varying power. They might even transform their users following certain patters, thus you get the mounted lancers that Griffith has, and the giant knights and so on. It also explains why apostles like Zodd are so much stronger than the nameless horde that follow them into battle.
Aazealh said:I don't think he'd have done it at any point in his life honestly. Doesn't seem like him to me.
Aazealh said:The Count used his twice, so no need to wonder about it. =)
Aazealh said:I don't see how it brings up that notion. Seems unrelated to me.
Aazealh said:Furthermore, that idea of beherits having varying power is unheard of in the manga, and disregards the actual process of becoming an apostle. Beherits are only gateways to the God Hand, they are not what gives an apostle his or her power. That is something that happens during the ceremony in which the sacrifice happens.
Aazealh said:In the same way, it has been brought up before by myself and others that apostles are individuals and not a mass of similar drones, much like humans. Thus, there are remarkable and unremarkable ones among them, just like there are remarkable and unremarkable humans. From them on it isn't hard to imagine that people who were exceptional as humans became exceptional apostles, and so on. There is no doubt, for example, that Guts would make a dreadful apostle.
Aazealh said:Lastly, concerning their "orientations" (flying, regenerating, small, big, agile, mounted, cuirassed, etc.) and more generally their themes, it is commonly thought that it stems from their personality and inner self as well as from what they wish during the ceremony.
Ralwatt said:I agree it's unlikely that he would ever have used it, but as I understand it the Beherit only activates when the user reaches a point of absolute desperation, which Guts never really reached while carrying it. It's not really like him, but people sometimes do things that aren't like them at such times.
Ralwatt said:I'm not suggesting they contain the power, just that they could influence hot much power that apostle gains when they undergo the ceremony.
I don't believe it's likely but I think it's possible.
Ralwatt said:What parameters contribute is an interesting question, since the fairy apostle was a powerless little girl, strong only in her emotions, but she became a very powerful apostle.
Ralwatt said:Again, that's another possible interpretation and one I agree with. I'm really just proposing a possible alternative.
Aazealh said:Well yeah, but my point was that he's always despised apostles since the Occultation and even through despair probably wouldn't yield to a bargain like the one the GH would propose. Not to mention that his iron will is also why he's never reached such a point, despite being in direr situations than most.
Aazealh said:Ok. I don't think it's the case though, since so far we've never been told anything of the sort. The way beherits are created also seem to imply that they're all the same, coming together from the Abyss as identical droplets. The only unknown being the crimson beherit of course.
Aazealh said:Hehe that is true. I believe that the spiritual aspect is predominant, as the corporeal body itself is only altered as a consequence and reverts to normal upon death.
Aazealh said:Ok, that's cool.