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POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« on: February 18, 2002, 09:01:12 PM »
I was browsing through volume 9, which has the first appearance of Skull Knight, and I noticed a VERY strange panel that i had never noticed before (perhaps some of you have already, but I wasnt paying enough attention I guess...) but take a look at this, and Ill explain:


Now if you follow the action in the panel, that should be Skully's eye, NOT Guts. Also, does that really look like Guts eye? Hardly...

Last and certainly not least, is the VERY apparent ellipse-shaped pupil, commonly known throughout all human forms of apostles, need more proof? Well heres Wild's and Locus's eyes (both are of cource, apostles):


Now take all this for what its worth, but as of right now, almost ALL of my Skull Knight theories are in the toilet. Im BLOWN away.
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2002, 10:27:24 PM »
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Now if you follow the action in the panel, that should be Skully's eye, NOT Guts. Also, does that really look like Guts eye? Hardly...

Ah yes, the eyeÖ

Well, Iím not quite blown away, I noticed the eye before and I agree in that I also donít think itís Guts eye, but I also donít think itís really Skullyís either, itís the eye of whatever Guts imagines is behind him, itís in his mind.  I think itís purely symbolic of the imposing presence Guts feels and fears. If you look two pages earlier I could swear to you that Zoddo is sneaking up on Guts, but he isnít, thatís just how Guts perceives it, same with the threatening eye in my opinion.

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Last and certainly not least, is the VERY apparent ellipse-shaped pupil, commonly known throughout all human forms of apostles, need more proof? Well heres Wild's and Locus's eyes (both are of cource, apostles):

Now take all this for what its worth, but as of right now, almost ALL of my Skull Knight theories are in the toilet. Im BLOWN away.

For the sake of argument, letís say thatís what Skullyís eye looks like, itís not any different from Griffithís eye, so it doesn't limit him to Apostlehood, or anything else really, it just looks scary (and I think that's all there is to it).

So, in my opinion, it probably isnít his eye, and if it is, it doesn't change anything.

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P.S. Unless...
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2002, 10:35:34 PM »
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Ah yes, the eyeÖ

Well, Iím not quite blown away, I noticed the eye before and I agree in that I also donít think itís Guts eye, but I also donít think itís really Skullyís either, itís the eye of whatever Guts imagines is behind him, itís in his mind. †I think itís purely symbolic of the imposing presence Guts feels and fears. If you look two pages earlier I could swear to you that Zoddo is sneaking up on Guts, but he isnít, thatís just how Guts perceives it, same with the threatening eye in my opinion.

Good call. Its much more presumable than this being the ONE panel in which Skully's eye is revealed (I actually looked panel for panel in all of Skully's appearances tonight, looking for another "slip" and came up with nothin...) THOUGH, I think its still very odd that its an apostle eye... Very suspicious I think.
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For the sake of argument, letís say thatís what Skullyís eye looks like, itís not any different from Griffithís eye, so it doesn't limit him to Apostlehood, or anything else really, it just looks scary (and I think that's all there is to it).
P.S. Unless...

Sorry to be nitpicky, but Griffs pupils are consistently white, not black:


and:


Normally I would just leave this be, but I think its intriguing that Griff's pupil is white, and other apostle's are black. Fitting of cource, but still intriguing.
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2002, 10:53:52 PM »
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Sorry to be nitpicky, but Griffs pupils are consistently white, not black

UghÖ

DONíT FUCK WITH ME, BIZZZACH!!

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P.S. Also see chapters 180-186, Griffithís eyes alternate from white to black on many occasions, I came up with a theory on this and the demon child, but I didnít postÖbecause Iím not like Wally B. ;D

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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2002, 11:00:21 PM »
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P.S. Also see chapters 180-186, Griffithís eyes alternate from white to black on many occasions, I came up with a theory on this and the demon child, but I didnít postÖbecause Iím not like Wally B. ;D







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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2002, 08:17:13 AM »
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So, in my opinion, it probably isn’t his eye, and if it is, it doesn't change anything.

-Griffith



It's one of those "looking too much into it". Like you said, it changes nothing.
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2002, 07:00:44 PM »
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It's one of those "looking too much into it". Like you said, it changes nothing.

As I said before: "Normally I would just leave this be, but I think its intriguing that Griff's pupil is white, and other apostle's are black. Fitting of cource, but still intriguing. "

It doesnt change anything, obviously, but it would have been interesting all the same. Besides, theres nothing wrong with critically analyzing a piece of art.
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2002, 07:33:46 PM »
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It's one of those "looking too much into it". Like you said, it changes nothing.

I don't think anybody can define what "looking too much into it" should be.
even if we go like this :D each time with deep specualtion or assumption.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2002, 01:48:52 PM »
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As I said before: "Normally I would just leave this be, but I think its intriguing that Griff's pupil is white, and other apostle's are black. Fitting of cource, but still intriguing. "

It doesnt change anything, obviously, but it would have been interesting all the same. Besides, theres nothing wrong with critically analyzing a piece of art.


True. Still those are The SK shots are pretty old. Miura could have changed several things by now. SK might not even have eyes anymore. That is volume 9. And Miura is known to changing things as he goes along because it might not fit his future plans (Idea comes to mind).
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2002, 02:06:22 PM »
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True. Still those are The SK shots are pretty old. Miura could have changed several things by now. SK might not even have eyes anymore. That is volume 9. And Miura is known to changing things as he goes along because it might not fit his future plans (Idea comes to mind).

But not everything can be in flux. If it were, then there would be no solid evidence for anything.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2002, 02:16:29 PM »
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But not everything can be in flux. If it were, then there would be no solid evidence for anything.


Sure. We'll just have to see if it has relevance in the future. I don't have any older mangas infront of me but, are Griffith's eyes elipse pre-festival also? Or only post festival? Are the other apostles eyes also like that? Zoddo's? If they all have it, and it shows a deliberate patter then you might have something.
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2002, 11:15:14 PM »
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Sure. We'll just have to see if it has relevance in the future. I don't have any older mangas infront of me but, are Griffith's eyes elipse pre-festival also? Or only post festival? Are the other apostles eyes also like that? Zoddo's? If they all have it, and it shows a deliberate patter then you might have something.

Zodd's pupils have always been elipse-shaped, as early as his first appearance in volume 5. Griffith's were circular up until we saw him in chapter 175. This is already proven territory though...
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2002, 03:41:32 PM »
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Zodd's pupils have always been elipse-shaped, as early as his first appearance in volume 5. Griffith's were circular up until we saw him in chapter 175. This is already proven territory though...



Like I said. Wait and see.
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2002, 05:51:25 PM »
I always wait and see †;D but in vol.11

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Is just Guts or some kinda foreshadowing?
of course it's quite long ago and even before Guts knows Skully
much. but now is also he doesn't know Skully MUCH.
My takes on this are two.
1) Guts thouhgt Skully as an apostle or just an evil thing at first but it changes later.
2) Skully was an apostle originally but he's fought against Godhands:exact opposite of plan of Godhand.
Maybe he is the very one who regrets his choice to be an apostle.

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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2002, 09:12:37 PM »
That panel could just represent that Guts was feeling something similar to being in the prescence of Skully and Zodd. A feeling of overwhelming power.

Thats just what I always thought that panel meant.
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2002, 09:44:26 PM »
I have already said it othewhere but... if Skully is a apostle why Guts' mark doesn't react to him?
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2002, 10:50:45 PM »
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I have already said it othewhere but... if Skully is a apostle why Guts' mark doesn't react to him?

If any character was to be subject to one, or even a series of exceptions to the typical rules, Skully would be the character.

Hes also 1000 years old, and since the brand reacts to 'evil', maybe 1000 years is enough to ward away that evil aura. Then again, my heart tells me that the lack of a brand reacting has more to do with the "elven aura" hint that we got from Puck in volume 18
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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2002, 02:46:30 AM »
but their eyes!

:-X Maybe this was talked about before too much.

yeah, I'll change mine into
"An evil elf sacificed Skully 1000 years ago"
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Seriously, I bet there were thousands of theories about SK in the old threads or BSOM. then was there any kind of theory which says "somebody(except Void) sacrificed SK 1000 years ago"?
If so, let me know please. I'll appreciate that so much. :)

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Re: POTENTIAL EVIDENCE: Skully = Apostle
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2002, 06:12:50 PM »
Or was his woman that was sacrificed ? Remember the rose on the shield and the woman on the horse. Or was a woman to sacrifice him? Maybe the woman he loved? Maybe Slan?
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2002, 07:09:00 AM »
I still belive in the pretty simple theory that Void was SK's advisor/minister and sacrifised the former capital of Midland to become a god hand. But since we have not many evidences, nearly every theory could be true.
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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2002, 12:53:30 PM »
or mabey sk was was sacrificed by her lover who was also and elf and the elf sdid it to be with grunbeld *guts father* and sk and guts are all related which is why he helps guts and does like griffith cus griffith is a elf and sk ahs that whole problem with elves now. and mabey griffiths is the last elf of his kind oh no!! what if hes tryingto re populate and elves take over. eep!!!

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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2002, 03:59:56 PM »
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or mabey sk was was sacrificed by her lover who was also and elf and the elf sdid it to be with grunbeld *guts father* and sk and guts are all related which is why he helps guts and does like griffith cus griffith is a elf and sk ahs that whole problem with elves now. and mabey griffiths is the last elf of his kind oh no!! what if hes tryingto re populate and elves take over. eep!!!


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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2002, 12:00:16 AM »
neither of those are important
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2002, 06:00:53 AM »
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neither of those are important


Of course not, if you don't want people to read your messages.
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