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Episode 290
« on: September 21, 2007, 03:04:15 PM »
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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2007, 03:07:46 PM »
That picture is friggin' beautiful...

...can't wait.
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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2007, 03:24:01 PM »
Gah, still six days away. Late previews might be better for me so I'm not counting the days from this long away.

That's a particularly impressive picture though, almost looks like one or two of the inkers involved in this one have changed again.

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2007, 03:24:16 PM »
That picture is friggin' beautiful...

Yup, very nice and the title is promising as well. :beast:

That's a particularly impressive picture though, has there been any changes with Miuras art staff again?

No, but anyway for this kind of shot you can tell he did most of the work himself. Like, maybe an assistant helped work on the barrels but that's probably all there is to it. EDIT: And anyway I agree with CnC below, while it's a good shot, it doesn't strike me as too different from the usual artwork.

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2007, 03:27:55 PM »
That's a particularly impressive picture though, almost looks like one or two of the inkers involved in this one have changed again.

The tones seem softer, but the actual linework seems the same.  It could just be how Miura decided to light this scene, tho.
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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2007, 04:46:00 PM »
Miura's attention to detail never ceases to amaze me.  I imagine we're going to be taking another trip into Guts' psyche.

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2007, 06:10:40 PM »
I don't know, the episode title seems ominous as hell.

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2007, 06:44:19 PM »
I don't know, the episode title seems ominous as hell.

Agreed. Really hope we get to see Guts interact with The Beast.

It could just be how Miura decided to light this scene, tho.

Sumthin' about it struck me in a good way, even before reading the comments. A simple panel, but a gorgeous one. IDK why either, but all of a sudden Guts' stump irks me.

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2007, 06:53:55 PM »
IDK why either, but all of a sudden Guts' stump irks me.

Well after 2+ years the severed muscles in that area would have atrophied to look different from his other arm.  But I suppose a little suspension of disbelief is in order.

...that and we usually don't see the exposed stump.
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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2007, 07:08:40 PM »
...that and we usually don't see the exposed stump.

No, that's what I mean. I'm not saying, it looks weird or anything. Just every time I see it I can't help but think, "FUCK, HE HAS NO ARM!"  :ganishka:

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2007, 07:23:54 PM »
Hi to EveryOne Guys! I really appreciate SK.net and his Community!

About this new episode, I'm really happy, that deep darkness outcrops through Guts' dark evil Beast.

I wonder if the Idea of Evil will prevail on Guts. At last I think that Guts' Beast can be identified with Guts' true id, probably meaning, according to :idea:'s will, a final moment.

I'm expecting from this episode a violent awakening from Guts in which he could hurt, even a little, Schierke or Farnese.

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2007, 07:32:00 PM »
Well after 2+ years the severed muscles in that area would have atrophied to look different from his other arm.

I'm not sure about that actually. These muscles weren't inactive, and it's inactivity that provokes atrophy in most cases, that's why muscles can atrophy if you get a really long bedrest or keep a cast for a while. Since Guts used that arm to fight, its depiction in the manga doesn't surprise me at all, in fact it's rather the contrary that would. But yeah anyway it's just a comic book with magic and monsters, so in the end... Who cares. :void:

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2007, 07:52:39 PM »
I'm not sure about that actually. These muscles weren't inactive, and it's inactivity that provokes atrophy in most cases, that's why muscles can atrophy if you get a really long bedrest or keep a cast for a while. Since Guts used that arm to fight, its depiction in the manga doesn't surprise me at all, in fact it's rather the contrary that would.

I am sure.  Thats why I mentioned the muscles that were severed.  The brachioradialis muscle, carpi radialis longus and brevis and others whose names I've forgotten are cut off.  They would not be able to flex, grow, or maintain size.  But the bicep and tricep would be ok (which helps swing the sword).
But even so the likelihood that the two arms are different sizes would be higher.
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yeah anyway it's just a comic book with magic and monsters, so in the end... Who cares. :void:

exactly.  Tis all cool.

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2007, 07:58:39 PM »
Those ARE what his muscles look like atrophied! Though I know what CnC means, most would have a more a of cone-shaped arm at this point, but hey, it's Guts, his was already overdeveloped to begin with; and his presence in the interstice helps maintain the arm's integrity! :troll:

Also, like the rest of you, my first thought upon seeing that image is that it's GORGEOUS. Looks so soft, like a painting almost.

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2007, 10:32:42 PM »
Well at least he is still lying down and seems calm. The last few panels of the last episode made it seem like he was about to lose it completely. especially given state  :chomp: was in. I wonder if the beast has been pacified. Then again the title seems to suggest otherwise

As for the muscle atrophy discussion... I think Aaz said it best... its a comic book. We dont' need to plant it in reality. BTW, Guts six pack (14 pack?!) makes it seem like he ate a giant 8 legged critter.

This would be a nice panel to color I think...

EDIT:Quick Try at Coloring

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2007, 12:17:56 AM »
Quick Try at Coloring

http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roarfromdarknesshz6.jpg

I like it! :guts:
Especially Serpico's pants, boots and legs.

PS. Thank you for the preview, as always.

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2007, 01:07:25 AM »
The Sick-bed of Cuchulain springs to my mind . . . Roar from Darkness . . . Ohh . . . This might be a tense episode.
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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2007, 10:52:11 AM »
Hello to all guys!! :guts:

I'm a new member, an Italian guy, and I'm very passionate about Berserk.

Situated one compliments x this fantastic!!

PS. Please excuse my English, I hope that something is understood!!

I follow like you the spoiler, perhaps and from the preview of episode 290, they said that an episode is shown to the horizon a lot interesting, and detector on the true nature of the beast that annidia in Guts' mind.

I do not see the hour that decoy!! I perceive in the air something terribly dark!!!


PS: You have noticed that only the preview from how much a true one is perfect sempra and just picture… is absurd, the graphical style of the master always improves!!




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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2007, 11:35:43 AM »
Welcome to the forum Ninus.

The episode title kicks ass : I am beastie, hear me roar! :beast:

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2007, 11:36:52 AM »
Guts does seem pretty calm...wonder if the title isn't so literal and implies some sort of introspection with the Beast
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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2007, 12:02:23 PM »
Welcome to the forum Ninus.

The episode title kicks ass : I am beastie, hear me roar! :beast:

Thanks for the welcome. :guts:



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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2007, 12:11:05 PM »
Guts does seem pretty calm...wonder if the title isn't so literal and implies some sort of introspection with the Beast

Yes, I think the introspection would be quite possible, or maybe Schierke herself could have, a kind of speech with the Guts' Dark Id diving in his spirit.

I guess if Serpico will be worried again of Guts evilness..Since he don't know the true Bound with the Dark Beast and Him.

I Think that Several scenario could open at this rate.

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2007, 12:19:55 PM »
Well at least he is still lying down and seems calm. The last few panels of the last episode made it seem like he was about to lose it completely.

Did they? He was dreaming, being asleep and feverish. The Beast was growling but chained. It didn't seem to indicate that he was about to slaughter everybody as far as I can tell. And anyway, this is just one of the first panels of the episode, meaning basically only a continuation of the last one's ending. The real development will happen after that, at the point showed it's like nothing's changed yet.

Guts does seem pretty calm...wonder if the title isn't so literal and implies some sort of introspection with the Beast

Well yes, that's what I think. I doubt the title refers to Guts roaring from the ship's hold, rather it's IMO implying a confrontation in the depths of his mind, like what I said in the Episode 289 thread.

the Dark Beast

Sorry to nitpick but it's the Beast of Darkness.

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2007, 12:32:07 PM »
Sorry to nitpick but it's the Beast of Darkness.

Yes, I'm sorry for my imprecision. Anyway I like to consider the Beast of Darkness as the "Ideal" part of Guts consciousness, deriving from the Skull Knight speech about the fight within Darkness and  :idea:'s speech.

The Only thing I can't understand well, is if the Beast have some Influence on Beherit..In vol 16 I don't think Guts is that moodly destroyed.
Could deep Id manipulate the Spiritual tear?
Or the Fear he feels that time would be a pretty catalyst?

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Re: Episode 290
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2007, 12:47:36 PM »
This is a theory of a customer of Marik name, than mail like me on a situated Italian dedicated to Berserk, and that I share in full load:

Last the 3 pages of understood it the 289 represented the chained beast that it resides in the mind of Guts.

Perhaps that image wants to represent that:

the beast that gives years resides in the mind of Guts with the time also thanks to the armor has always made itself piu strongly, and comes represented “blocked gives of the chains”, because Guts disperatamente tries to hold it to brake.

The question is:

It can be that the oracolo of the beast it is during the first encounter with the black guerriero, than in the dream, has not mentito?

In fact second this profezia, Guts, are destined at first to become a monster from the human fattezze… and then it will be transformed in a true monster and just, (like its former Griphith friend) as the malignant spirits say to it.

The beast is been born within Guts, and little little + have grown always, because it has been nourished of hatred and the feelings of rancor that have characterized the life of our hero, and therefore the beast alive and develops itself within of he!!

The first oracolo forecast of the evil, will be taken place in the moment in which something or someone, will break off the equilibrium that concurs to still hold the beast under control (for this is represented chained.) when that will be taken place (if never it happens then) is in that moment that Guts will be transformed in a pitiless monster!!   :chomp:
 
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