Movies to look forward to

Aazealh

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Walter said:
My esteemed colleagues, having read most of the Sherlock Holmes stories, I'm always a little peeved when people think of Watson as an idiot who just gesticulates wildly in surprise constantly. He's often underrated simply because he pales in comparison to his partner's superhuman abilities. But Watson's not stupid. He's able to bounce off ideas and even contribute to Holmes' deductive reasoning faster than nearly every other characters in the series. The notable exception being of course, Moriarty. And really, Holmes wouldn't logically have kept him around if he thought Watson as a buffoon.

Yeah, same here. Watson's pretty cool in the books and if anything that's how his character should be pictured by default (not to mention the fact that as the narrator he always downplays his own role).
 

Dar_Klink

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Walter said:
IN DEFENSE OF JOHN WATSON: A PARAGRAPH BY WALTER S. BENNET

My esteemed colleagues, having read most of the Sherlock Holmes stories, I'm always a little peeved when people think of Watson as an idiot who just gesticulates wildly in surprise constantly. He's often underrated simply because he pales in comparison to his partner's superhuman abilities. But Watson's not stupid. He's able to bounce off ideas and even contribute to Holmes' deductive reasoning faster than nearly every other characters in the series. The notable exception being of course, Moriarty. And really, Holmes wouldn't logically have kept him around if he thought Watson as a buffoon.
Yeah, I agree, I mean... he was a Military doctor, not some dolt off the streets. Dunno why he's portrayed like that in most incarnations of that character. Bravo! :ubik:
 

Griffith

With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
Wasn't that the point of the Two Watsons strip in the first place?


NightCrawler said:
I don't like Willy Wonka. I was just pointing out a scene that would probably disturb kids. It bothers me that every cartoon movie, no matter how mediocre it may be, makes loads of cash. People can detect if a typical blockbuster is shit, but when it comes to a cartoon, they'll eat it up like tacos on free taco day.

Well, that's not what you said before (I forget, it was either every western animation was shit or every movie was shit, or something =), either way, it was an extreme position, and it sounds like you have an overdeveloped sense of irritation if you care so much that animated movies that families go see make money, or hold it against all of them. And I'm not sure people can detect the shittiness of a typical blockbuster anyway, look at the top grossing list again:

http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross?region=world-wide

I believe you mentioned mediocrity, well the mediocrity business is good.
 

Griffith

With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
Yeah, it's fucking ridiculous, and because of the timing, look at the competition it has in the coming weeks and months, not another big movie in sight. Like Titanic, it could possibly just keep cruising at the box office throughout awards season, with a shot (longshot) at becoming the first 2 billion dollar movie. That still seems implausible even now though (but possible).

Article on the prospect of Avatar beating Cameron's own record:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/can-avatar-director-break-his-box-office-record-2010-01-04

Whether it hits 2 billion or even breaks the record or not, my next question is, could Cameron eventually be allowed to make a movie with a billion dollar budget (and how far away is that in any case)? It's completely ludicrous, but some say Avatar cost $500 million already, and who has a better claim at being good for the money? Unbelievable.
 

Aazealh

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グリフィス said:
Like Titanic, it could possibly just keep cruising at the box office throughout awards season, with a shot (longshot) at becoming the first 2 billion dollar movie. That still seems implausible even now though (but possible).

Article on the prospect of Avatar beating Cameron's own record:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/can-avatar-director-break-his-box-office-record-2010-01-04

Whether it hits 2 billion or even breaks the record or not, my next question is, could Cameron eventually be allowed to make a movie with a billion dollar budget (and how far away is that in any case)? It's completely ludicrous, but some say Avatar cost $500 million already, and who has a better claim at being good for the money? Unbelievable.

Man, imagine that. Cameron one-upping himself again and again, raising the stakes each time. :ganishka:
 

NightCrawler

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Looking at the top 10, what's even more baffling is how the hell did the "Pirates" movies got so much appeal?! They're so badly written and make no sense.
 

Walter

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NightCrawler said:
Looking at the top 10, what's even more baffling is how the hell did the "Pirates" movies got so much appeal?! They're so badly written and make no sense.
Broad appeal.
 
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Imagine how well a really well done pirate movie would do. And I mean at least R-rated, the way a real pirate movie should be done. I often wonder why Hollywood didn't start mass-producing pirate movies after the PotC movies succeeded so ludicrously. I can admit I'd be at least tempted to see that happen.

Black Bart, for example, is great Hollywood material imo.

Then again I suppose I'm not exactly in sync with pop culture.
 

Griffith

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NightCrawler said:
Looking at the top 10, what's even more baffling is how the hell did the "Pirates" movies got so much appeal?! They're so badly written and make no sense.
Walter said:
Broad appeal.

Yup, expanding on that, movies that make no sense are perfect worldwide moneymakers because there's nothing culturally specific or intellectual about them to understand; so, you can show it to anyone, anywhere, at any age. Basically you want it so that even a cave man can watch the movie and get it, or at worst, feel like he's being pandered to. =)

They do that on purpose now with explosion porn like Transformers 2.
 

Aazealh

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Deci said:
Imagine how well a really well done pirate movie would do. And I mean at least R-rated, the way a real pirate movie should be done. I often wonder why Hollywood didn't start mass-producing pirate movies after the PotC movies succeeded so ludicrously. I can admit I'd be at least tempted to see that happen.

I understand what you mean, and I sure would like a real, badass pirate movie, but since when has mass production of imitations following a themed movie's success been a desirable thing for the moviegoer?
 

Griffith

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Yeah, and I don't think the success of it was the pirates so much as that broad appeal Walter was talking about. Look at that list again, it takes all kinds, and they have more in common in the kind of movie they are than the subject matter.
 

Oburi

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Saw two films today, Avatar and The Road. It was kinda strange seeing these back to back because they are so different in almost every aspect, but it was fun nonetheless.

Like most, I was blown away by Avatar, and I can't really say more than what was already said. The cgi was amazing, and watching the trailers on your computer just doesn't do it justice, you have to see on the big screen to fully appreciate it. But like others have said I was rolling my eyes at the mention of the word "Unobtainium". It just seemed like a slap in the face. Like it didn't matter what it was called because it was a simple plot device to get the movie going. So they just gave it some Hollywood inside joke name meant for something that can't be obtained. Usually scripts that use this word in early drafts changed it later when they think of something better. But here...

-"hey James, what should we call the valuable mineral everyone is looking for?"
-"It doesn't matter, these people don't care about plot, its about the special effects! You can call it Unobtainium for all I care".
-"Ok, we'll go with that".

I also think some of the political dialog was a bit heavy handed at times, but not to the point where it became distracting. The best part of the whole film was definitely the world of Pandora and the plants and animals that inhabit it. One more criticism though -
Why did they have to literally "plug in" to the plants and animals? Like I get that everything is connected in nature and cycle of life blah blah ... without it actually being connected! Is it me or did that seem unnecessary?

As for The Road, it was amazing. Very little plot but it was so real and so very touching at times, surprisingly grim and depressing too. Very well done, with amazing attention to detail, which is incredible considering the lack of computer effects used in the film. And what can I say about Viggo Mortenson, he's become one of my favorite actors.


But must he show his bare ass in every movie?
 

Vampire_Hunter_Bob

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Oburi said:
As for The Road, it was amazing. Very little plot but it was so real and so very touching at times, surprisingly grim and depressing too. Very well done, with amazing attention to detail, which is incredible considering the lack of computer effects used in the film. And what can I say about Viggo Mortenson, he's become one of my favorite actors.

But must he show his bare ass in every movie?

Already beat you to reviewing this movie. Looking back on it now, it was a very disappointing movie and any fans of the book should stay far away.
 

Rhombaad

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Oburi said:
One more criticism though -
Why did they have to literally "plug in" to the plants and animals? Like I get that everything is connected in nature and cycle of life blah blah ... without it actually being connected! Is it me or did that seem unnecessary?

Haha, actually I thought that was pretty cool. :void:
 

Griffith

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NightCrawler said:
I didn't know where to put this: http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2010/01/avatar-forums-are-hilariously-pathetic :ganishka:

Yikes.

Oburi said:
But like others have said I was rolling my eyes at the mention of the word "Unobtainium". It just seemed like a slap in the face. Like it didn't matter what it was called because it was a simple plot device to get the movie going.

I guess I'm in the minority of actually appreciating the candor and humor of that (plus it's kind of funny that they claimed it). I mean, what's more insulting, letting the audience in on a joke, or pretending we should take everything about the movie so seriously? There's enough self-important stuff in there already.

Death May Die said:
Same here.

Me three, it wasn't anything special, but I didn't see anything wrong with it.
 
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