Ramen4ever said:If we still consider Ganishka an apostle despite his new transformation, then he most likely is the most powerful overall.
Guts' intestines said:though this thread does make me wonder who's stronger between Grunbeld and Zodd, both gave Guts a lot of difficulty.
Deci said:I thought Zodd was the "apostle that other apostles were afraid of" kinda guy, including Grunbeld, his experience alone can't be matched (I think).
Guts already displayed his superiority to Zodd's non-transformed form in vol 22. But with the armor, I think he could even best the fully transformed Zodd. But... it's just a hypothetical situation. I don't think they'll ever square off in a deathmatch. I think it'll be Skull Knight who ultimately finishes off Zodd (or maybe Griffith..).einherjar said:Perhaps this merits its own thread, but if a healthy Guts with the Berserk's Armor fought Zodd, what might the outcome be?
Walter said:I think it'll be Skull Knight who ultimately finishes off Zodd (or maybe Griffith..).
Well it's extremely hypothetical, but I can see it coming down to a deathmatch between them. If Zodd puts himself between SK and Void, for instance -- between a life and death situation for Skull Knight, I can see him finishing their little duel.Vampire_Hunter_Bob said:It's just hard for me to imagine Skull Knight killing off Zodd.
Ramen4ever said:There isn't really any proof that Grunbeld or Locus are afraid of Zodd. As Aazealh said, they show him respect. That respect could be for a large number of reasons. He's incredibly strong and tough, his nickname "the Immortal", his reputation, etc etc. Though I think the most important fact is that he is Griffith's personal escort and bodyguard.
Walter said:I think it'll be Skull Knight who ultimately finishes off Zodd (or maybe Griffith..).
Nah, I don't think it'd be for that reason. It could be something unprecedented. My only notion of this being a possibility is from that scene in vol 17 -- the Falcon of Light displaying its ultimate superiority to Zodd. It may not come to pass at all, but it just seemed to be foreshadowing a future event more than simply issuing a physical threat.Aazealh said:Yes, when Zodd finally rebels himself against Griffith, because he's a honorable warrior and won't follow such an evil leader!
Walter said:Nah, I don't think it'd be for that reason.
Walter said:It could be something unprecedented. My only notion of this being a possibility is from that scene in vol 17 -- the Falcon of Light displaying its ultimate superiority to Zodd. It may not come to pass at all, but it just seemed to be foreshadowing a future event more than simply issuing a physical threat.
Or maybe I've just been misinterpreting the scene?
Walter said:I think you misunderstood the scene...Aazealh said:By the way, I think that they may not simply follow Griffith because they want to, but to some extent also because they've got no choice, remember how Zodd lost his horn...
Asuka's Lover said:Guts withouth the berserk armor stood a very good chance, even before he was a struggler in the interstice.
Asuka's Lover said:What if Schierke and Serpico bested and killed Zodd, I think thats something Kentarou Miura would want to give the readers.
zooty said:Ok, thought I would start up a thread that should get some debate going. :)
In order, list who you think the most powerful apostle is.
1) Emperor Ganishka
2) Zodd
3) Grunbeld
4) Locus
5) Irvine
6) Snake Baron
7) Wyald
8) Rosine
Th3Branded0ne said:I say to this most of the strength is from what they desire.