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Title: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Angry-Moth-Noises on March 01, 2016, 08:09:18 AM
Or more, out of all the ones we have seen so far, do you have a favorite? Why is that one your favorite? There are many that are aimlessly in the background in some of the panels. Do you like that apostle because of its design? Personality? (If it has one.)

I am still playing catching up on Berserk, but I really liked the Kelpie. :ubik:
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/berserk/images/3/37/Kelpie.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080615184626)

I liked this creature so much because well, frog horse. And didn't expect it to be a kelpie, and I love kelpies so I was surprised to see it! I saw it, thought it was funny.

I also very much like Grunbeld as well.

So what about you guys? Do you have a favorite? Is there also one you like the least?
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: jackson_hurley on March 01, 2016, 03:04:44 PM
Or more, out of all the ones we have seen so far, do you have a favorite? Why is that one your favorite? There are many that are aimlessly in the background in some of the panels. Do you like that apostle because of its design? Personality? (If it has one.)

I am still playing catching up on Berserk, but I really liked the Kelpie. :ubik:
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/berserk/images/3/37/Kelpie.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080615184626)

I liked this creature so much because well, frog horse. And didn't expect it to be a kelpie, and I love kelpies so I was surprised to see it! I saw it, thought it was funny.

I also very much like Grunbeld as well.

So what about you guys? Do you have a favorite? Is there also one you like the least?

Yeah, like you, the Kelpie got to me a lot. I really dig that kind of design. The details are awesome and it's because of Berserk that I first learned about the kelpie. I think it's neat.

I remember one of the apostle that I did not like that much on a design aspect. It's in the eclipse when Guts is still on top of the huge hand. There is one that looks like a dog. I never really liked that one. We pretty much see him in that scene only. There is another one that we see quickly in the eclipse that made me laugh but I cannot pinpoint right now where exactly the page is.

There is one also involving a giant apostle during the Kushan war that got me really rally curious as to what exactly it is. I'll have to check the volume to point exactly which one I'm talking about.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Walter on March 01, 2016, 04:26:50 PM
Hard to say "best" for me, but one of my favorite moments involving magical creatures was Daiba's use of the Kundalini. The little water snake projected a massive water form and tore Vritannis harbor to shreds. I really can't wait to see what else Miura has cooking for us along those lines.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: jackson_hurley on March 01, 2016, 07:04:15 PM
Hard to say "best" for me, but one of my favorite moments involving magical creatures was Daiba's use of the Kundalini. The little water snake projected a massive water form and tore Vritannis harbor to shreds. I really can't wait to see what else Miura has cooking for us along those lines.

Yeah, the Kundalini was something awesome indeed. I remember the first time it was out. Pretty impressing creature I'd have to say.

One of the apostle that I like a lot as a design is a female apostle in the fight against the little spawns of Ganishka. I like the scene were she receive a blow from one of the monsters and then humans come to help her making her mad when she see the humans get hurt.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Aazealh on March 01, 2016, 08:48:28 PM
Hard to say "best" for me, but one of my favorite moments involving magical creatures was Daiba's use of the Kundalini. The little water snake projected a massive water form and tore Vritannis harbor to shreds. I really can't wait to see what else Miura has cooking for us along those lines.

Dammit, I wanted to be the first to say I love the Kundalini!
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Tripas on March 01, 2016, 10:44:10 PM
If we talk about apostles, Zodd is my favorite by far. Not only a great character but also one of the best apostle designs of the series. And that's saying a lot given the competitors! I simply love him.

Regarding the creatures, I would say again the Kundalini (it's truly awesome), but for the sake of variety I'll say the Sea God. Its concept was really amazing. On the other hand, since the beginning of Fantasia, I'm waiting to see dragons again. When that happens, this top will crumble.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Delta Phi on March 02, 2016, 01:50:47 AM
Really tough question. First creature that popped into my head was the kelpie, and I think it might be my favorite. But as for apostle? Geez, I don't think I can answer that. I tend to change based on who's getting more current attention in the manga.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Angry-Moth-Noises on March 02, 2016, 07:58:55 AM
Really tough question. First creature that popped into my head was the kelpie, and I think it might be my favorite. But as for apostle? Geez, I don't think I can answer that. I tend to change based on who's getting more current attention in the manga.

Right? I do find that I change what apostle I like often. Can't wait to see what other awesome creatures await for us!
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Oburi on March 02, 2016, 05:05:46 PM
I'm going to say Locus for me is a favorite Apostle. I remember when I first saw his Apostle form ... just wow. It blew me away because at the time we hadn't seen anything quite like that and it made me reevaluate what some other powerful Apostle forms could be. It's so unique and creative and terrifying actually that it stands out among all the other Apostles, even though they are all insanely unique. I remember when I first read that episode he reminded me of the T-1000 from T2. He almost looks like something that doesn't belong in Berserk. He's got a sci-fi vibe going on. I absolutely love it. I'm still trying to imagine a practical scenario where Locus could be defeated. You just know that fight is going to be a bitch!

As for creatures, I liked when we started seeing all the familiars during the Ganishka plot because you never knew what was coming next and Miura masterfully kept upping the ante with what he threw at us. Just when you though you'd seen it all, another creature would turn up and start wrecking shit and Guts would then have to kill that. However, I would have to say that my favorite creature right now would be the Garuda(s). Again, when Garuda first showed up I just had to geek out at how this random pterodactyl came out of nowhere and started flying around  :ubik:. It added to the complete chaos and madness of the situation. And seeing it's continued role in the story has made it even more fun and interesting.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Aulë on March 04, 2016, 04:46:39 AM
Irvine
(http://s14.postimg.org/qwv83bvvx/lol.png)
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: MrFlibble on March 05, 2016, 02:37:05 PM
Apostle: Design-wise I like Rakshas, before the assassin at dusk episode I had no idea what the deal was with him, I didn't even know if he was an apostle, but it was surprising when it was revealed that he was an amorphous cloak with a disembodied head beneath it. :rakshas:

Creature: The Dragon, I don't know if Miura showed us those creatures after the world merging as a way to tease their appearance in the fantasia arc, but I hope the series doesn't end before someone fights that dragon. I also like any creatures that resemble historical art, like how the enchanted tigers resemble Tipu's tiger,

http://www.vam.ac.uk/__data/assets/image/0008/183887/2006ah4175_tipus_tiger.jpg

or how the Trolls in Berserk look like John Bauers trolls. 

http://runeberg.org/jbauer/01.jpg
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Tabris on March 09, 2016, 01:53:13 PM
2nd Reincarnation of Ganishka by far. For so many reasons.

I loved the hell out of Berserk before I seen that part. I remember being out of class and just picking up book 33. I already religiously bought the books, but the end of 33 just completely shattered my mind. I knew Griffith/Femto was powerful but how the actual fuck would he defeat something like that? I figured as usual, he'd do it effortlessly. But how?

It wasn't just his size that blew me away. It's what the actual event meant. It was reality breaking. Ganishka looked like himself after Google Deep Dream vomited him out of the astral realm.   He was just an incomprehensible and abstract existence.

And all the events that came after. How Ganishka's mind and ego plummeted to the point where he practically knew nothing other than to follow the light.

Then how Femto 'defeated' him became my absolute favorite moment in Berserk and absolutely cemented my adoration for this series.

I loved and adored Berserk before that moment but I became unreasonably obsessed with it after.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: veltechmetalworks on March 20, 2016, 05:55:06 AM
Wyald. I think he is the most shocking and psychotic of all the apostles. The Devil Dogs chapter was very disturbing.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Eadwulf on April 18, 2016, 11:52:24 PM
Appearance wise, Grunbeld is my favorite apostle, without a doubt. Both of his forms are terrifying. I can't wait until we get back to Falconia after that supposed Elf Island timeskip and we get to see what he and the Neo-BotH have been up to.

I'd say Mozgus was my least favorite in terms of appearance. I loved him as a villain, but his second form makes him look like The Thing from Fantastic 4.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Mammon on April 20, 2016, 08:02:01 PM
I'd say Mozgus was my least favorite in terms of appearance. I loved him as a villain, but his second form makes him look like The Thing from Fantastic 4.
Haha always thought the same.  :mozgus: His bodyguards (they are humans but still) made a big impression on me when we see them the first time.
The huge muscle guy with a (literally) baby face was unsettling.

Also, even if they turned out to be not all that (from what we've seen, they don't seem stronger than regular human soldiers), Ganishka's Daka were creepy and I loved the art.
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/8ada370ffad88e1db2997842ab31230e/tumblr_n7aie2Djsv1rz06hho1_500.png)

These eyes...  :magni:

I also loved the Sea God (and that Lovecraftian arc), I remember when we saw his heart for the first time and it looked like the IoE, I was so pumped. Well it wasn't related, but still nice.

Also, a classic, but the Snake Baron. Reminded me of "Violence Jack" 's first chapter (that and other imageries in that particular chapter). I had read the Miura was inspired by "Violence Jack" IIRC (been a long time), good timing to check google... ah, first question: https://mangabrog.wordpress.com/2015/12/14/berserk-artist-kentaro-miura-interview-i-actually-dont-think-i-could-let-such-a-long-grim-story-end-with-a-grim-ending/

When I watched the 3rd Berserk movie of the mediocre trilogy, and instead of Snake Baron (walking in the woods) we got... Female Apostle. Ok...

And these little guys are cute as  :slan:
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/berserk/images/6/68/Brownies.png/revision/latest?cb=20101001235810)
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Feeblecursedone on June 16, 2016, 08:27:23 PM
Kelpie, because it looks really bizzare, like something out of Lovecraft books. Apparently, its also a water pokemon  :troll: Honorary mention to that sole Dragon standing on the rooftop of a castle.

Apostles wise, when it comes to pure design, probably snake baron. The armour and the massive bipedal-King Cobra form were quite neat. He also had a nice halberd.

Character wise, probably Zodd. He's relatively one-dimensional but has established himself as Guts' rival and occassional ally so it makes him quite cool.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: ApostleBob on June 16, 2016, 08:30:54 PM
Honestly the Count is a fantastic design. He's just so creepy and original looking. And that mouth...
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Feeblecursedone on June 17, 2016, 02:24:41 PM
Honestly the Count is a fantastic design. He's just so creepy and original looking. And that mouth...

The Slug is probably one of the most disgusting apostle designs... xD But, it gets the job done. At least its creative.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Squiddot on June 18, 2016, 06:53:51 AM
This is a little less traditional but i adore all of the apostle troops in Zodd's "division" and my favourite creature is a lanky chicken looking one that routinely shows up in the crowds.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2mpndpw.png)

By my count he's survived two skirmishes with the Kushan and the raid on Flora's. Currently MIA as of Falconia's inception but counting on him to pull through.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Feeblecursedone on June 18, 2016, 09:51:58 AM
He must be a buddy with the chicken apostle  :ubik:
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Sweet Prince on August 08, 2016, 06:54:26 PM
If we talk about apostles, Zodd is my favorite by far.

Same here. Zodd's Apostle design is one of the most ingenious in the whole series, IMHO. The brutishness and sheer weight of him is conveyed brilliantly in the manga.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: DANGERDOOOOM on August 27, 2016, 02:18:13 AM
Has to be Grunbeld for me, by far. I've always had a fascination with Giants and Dragons. I would love more story about him.

(http://i.imgur.com/CYc0sOG.jpg)

This is a little less traditional but i adore all of the apostle troops in Zodd's "division" and my favourite creature is a lanky chicken looking one that routinely shows up in the crowds. By my count he's survived two skirmishes with the Kushan and the raid on Flora's. Currently MIA as of Falconia's inception but counting on him to pull through.
Haha, rooting for the chicken apostle! There has also been the ram apostle that is involved in the Lance unit of the New Band of the Hawk I've been sort of watching out for. I just like his armor design.
(http://i.imgur.com/IfWY5Zn.png?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/bPkru82.jpg?1)
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Sado on August 28, 2016, 02:10:32 AM
I don't know about you guys, but Guts doesn't actually fight that dragon that shows up then I'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: serpico69 on August 20, 2017, 09:17:05 AM
Any of the War demons lancers division. Except Borkoff. Fuck that guy
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: xblvck on February 23, 2018, 08:29:04 PM
Def my slimy boy Count

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/7/70/Slug_avatar.png/revision/latest?cb=20170919195826)
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Menosgade on March 09, 2018, 05:07:25 PM
Most interesting so far, and extremely dangerous. Yet, I hope the bazooka shot killed it.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/berserk/images/b/b8/Rakshas_%28desenmascarado%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150827032545&path-prefix=es)
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Aazealh on March 09, 2018, 11:09:29 PM
I hope the bazooka shot killed it.

It definitely did not.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Fancypantaloons on March 11, 2018, 04:57:45 PM
Zodd, but in his """normal""" form.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: NCHaskew on March 12, 2018, 03:12:14 AM
Hmmm, like most people, saying a definitive favorite is incredibly difficult. But I do really like the Cthulhu design of the Rotting Root Lord that Schierke summons to seal Qliphoth. Especially since we get the great Nietzsche quote about the abyss.

As for least favorite, I gotta say Wyald. I don't hate anything in Berserk, but I'm close on him. He kind of just felt like a hat on a hat. The '97 anime and film trilogy both cut him and I'd say it really adds to the impact of the Eclipse. In my humble opinion.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Aazealh on March 12, 2018, 06:15:47 AM
As for least favorite, I gotta say Wyald. I don't hate anything in Berserk, but I'm close on him. He kind of just felt like a hat on a hat. The '97 anime and film trilogy both cut him and I'd say it really adds to the impact of the Eclipse. In my humble opinion.

Your opinion fucking sucks.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Archer1215 on March 12, 2018, 02:43:33 PM
As for least favorite, I gotta say Wyald. I don't hate anything in Berserk, but I'm close on him. He kind of just felt like a hat on a hat. The '97 anime and film trilogy both cut him and I'd say it really adds to the impact of the Eclipse. In my humble opinion.

The Wyald sequence is great for several reasons.

For one thing, it’s the first time Guts manages to defeat an Apostle, which is a significant accomplishment. The sequence contrasts quite a bit with his first encounter with Zodd, where he was shaking in fear and hardly able to do anything against him. We see his training and progress throughout the series as he achieves victory by becoming the 100-Man Slayer and killing Boscone, but Wyald was his final test before the Eclipse. The initial Zodd encounter was about pointing out how “weak” Guts was and served as his motivation to become stronger, while the Wyald encounter was all about showing the fruits of Guts’ labor as he finally stands up to and defeats an inhuman monster. This paved the way for his future as the Black Swordsman.

We also get quite a few really good character moments during the Wyald sequence. Griffith reaching for his sword to fight alongside his soldiers, but being unable to grip it as it falls to the ground. Casca tearfully yelling at Judeau about how Guts always has to stay and fight, and that it’s okay for him to retreat when the odds are so heavily stacked against him. Griffith gritting his teeth hard enough to draw blood as his friend is brutalized by Wyald. The wholesome scene in the wagon where Guts helps Griffith put on his armor and tells him it’s okay for him to take off his mask when it’s just the two of them.

I would also argue that the Wyald sequence doesn’t detract from the Eclipse, it reinforces the gravity of the situation. Only recently one Apostle gave them so much trouble, and now they are surrounded by dozens of them (if not more than a hundred). It makes their situation seem all the more bleak and hopeless.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Walter on March 12, 2018, 02:53:06 PM
I would also argue that the Wyald sequence doesn’t detract from the Eclipse, it reinforces the gravity of the situation. Only recently one Apostle gave them so much trouble, and now they are surrounded by dozens of them (if not more than a hundred). It makes their situation seem all the more bleak and hopeless.

Agreed. A common reading of the Wyald sequence is that it undermines the Eclipse by essentially having a "mini-feast." But instead, it's establishing the stakes for the Eclipse, so that when we realize all those figures on the horizon are each apostles, we know we aren't in for a big fight and escape sequence for most of our heroes, but an inescapable death. That's an absolute tonal shift that neither of the anime adaptations succeeds at pulling off.

Wyald's encounter with Zodd also provided a pretty important nuance to Zodd's motivations, established the apostle credo "do as you will," and served as the first time Guts sees the Vortex of Souls — all of which are appropriate stage-setting elements for what's to come.

It's also the final hurrah for the Falcons — the last time we get to see them fighting as a group, and each member has their moment to shine.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: NCHaskew on March 12, 2018, 04:15:07 PM
Your opinion fucking sucks.

That hurt my feelings. Now we're both in the wrong.

Agreed. A common reading of the Wyald sequence is that it undermines the Eclipse by essentially having a "mini-feast." But instead, it's establishing the stakes for the Eclipse, so that when we realize all those figures on the horizon are each apostles, we know we aren't in for a big fight and escape sequence for most of our heroes, but an inescapable death. That's an absolute tonal shift that neither of the anime adaptations succeeds at pulling off.

I definitely see the argument, I just think that Guts' first encounter with Zodd serves a similar purpose. On top of the "mini-feast," I also think his continual rape of every woman he sees also detracts from the Eclipse. His almost-rape of Casca is just... I don't know, it feels less story significant and more shock-value.

The Wyald sequence is great for several reasons.

For one thing, it’s the first time Guts manages to defeat an Apostle, which is a significant accomplishment. The sequence contrasts quite a bit with his first encounter with Zodd, where he was shaking in fear and hardly able to do anything against him.

That's a really good point. I suppose I originally thought that Guts plowing through apostles in the Eclipse was enough, but him vs. Wyald is a cool contrast to him vs. Zodd.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: saaken on April 24, 2018, 06:58:09 AM
hi,

i think irvine is a very interesting character , we don't know much about his past and he make me very curious to know more about him.
His design is really cool.

Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: asic on April 24, 2018, 08:30:12 AM
Never understood the criticism of the Wyald character/encounter and it has come up before. As others have already pointed out it adds to the story in multiple ways. In some aspects it is one of my favorite pre-eclipse battles/Apostles.

I definitely see the argument, I just think that Guts' first encounter with Zodd serves a similar purpose. On top of the "mini-feast," I also think his continual rape of every woman he sees also detracts from the Eclipse. His almost-rape of Casca is just... I don't know, it feels less story significant and more shock-value.

If you see the argument you should realize it is more than just shock-value. People have already pointed that out. Obviously it also adds to push Griffith closer to the edge. There is actual legit character developments in the encounter. I am baffled everytime this comes up..

Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: DANGERDOOOOM on April 24, 2018, 12:08:11 PM
Has to be Grunbeld for me, by far. I've always had a fascination with Giants and Dragons. I would love more story about him.

(http://i.imgur.com/CYc0sOG.jpg)

Man, I gotta be careful on what I wish for.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: MrFlibble on April 24, 2018, 12:28:59 PM
Man, I gotta be careful on what I wish for.
Bwha ha ha ha.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Giovanna on April 24, 2018, 12:43:25 PM
Agreed. A common reading of the Wyald sequence is that it undermines the Eclipse by essentially having a "mini-feast." But instead, it's establishing the stakes for the Eclipse, so that when we realize all those figures on the horizon are each apostles, we know we aren't in for a big fight and escape sequence for most of our heroes, but an inescapable death. That's an absolute tonal shift that neither of the anime adaptations succeeds at pulling off.

Doesn’t it also serves to show Guts (and everyone there) that those monsters are originally also humans? The end of that sequence is quite awesome, when Wyald’s body turns back into an old man and everybody sees it happening. Without this moment, Guts could very well not know that the apostles were humans before, no? And also that they are naturally evil, not just during eclipse ceremonies. I don’t think seeing what Griffith did would be enough to know this because his is a ‘special’ case, so Miura introduces this information to Guts with Wyald.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Walter on April 24, 2018, 12:46:20 PM
Man, I gotta be careful on what I wish for.

 :ganishka: To be fair, we did get some cool new illustrations from Miura in the light novel. The primary objection I have to this whole thing isn't that we're getting Grunbeld's backstory outside of the manga (which I also have qualms with), it's that Miura isn't the one telling the story. He outsourced it to a hack writer. And that sets a scary precedent for the future.

Doesn’t it also serves to show Guts (and everyone there) that those monsters are originally also humans? The end of that sequence is quite awesome, when Wyald’s body turns back into an old man and everybody sees it happening. Without this moment, Guts could very well not know that the apostles were humans before, no? And also that they are naturally evil, not just during eclipse ceremonies. I don’t think seeing what Griffith did would be enough to know this because his is a ‘special’ case, so Miura introduces this information to Guts with Wyald.

Certainly, but I didn't mean to go point-by-point about the significance of that volume. I could go on and on about Wyald. Another thing I didn't mention is that pairing him with Zodd in those final pages is a good glimpse at the disparity between apostles and their attitudes about how they use their power. Wyald is basically just a depraved, thrill-seeking old man, whereas Zodd appears to live by a kind of code of warriors. It's an important step as Miura introduces more apostles, building to the divide between apostles like Grunbeld/Irvine/Locus and the hordes of nameless apostles who just crave human meat.
Title: Re: What Apostle/Creature did you like the best?
Post by: Faded on May 12, 2018, 06:43:00 PM
The Apostle I thought was coolest, gotta be Rosine. She could fly at super sonic speeds, had a freakin' venomous lance-whip thing attached to her head and could spawn an army of underlings that were pretty powerful in their own right. She posed quite a unique and difficult challenge. I mean unless you're a professional bug exterminator like Guts, that is. Haha.

Locus has gotta be a close second for me. I always loved his little moment with Ganishka. When Locus' eyes crackle with energy as he begins to transform, and says "Don't flatter yourself" I'm not gonna lie it was a pretty hype moment for me. His Apostle form is pretty wicked too, his lance is almost fluid like. It transforms like the T1000's arm from Terminator, taking what ever form Locus's current combat stance favors. It's been used as both a straight up double sided lance to a helicopter-like double edged sword. 


Honorable mentions to Zodd & Grunbeld, they are cool too but I felt like choosing them might be too cliche'.


Which non-apostle creature I like the best, though? Hmmmm. Gotta be Puck. He's a creature, right? :puck: The dude get's a lot of hate nowadays (some of it rightfully so) but he was one of my favorites during the immediate post eclipse portion of the story. It melted my heart when Rickert gave him his due for keeping Guts somewhat sane during his Black Swordsman days. I think there's a possibility he gets some more development soon and steals the hearts of some fans again.