Gaiseric is the previous Egg of the King user and has been Hunting Godhand for past 1000 years to keep the cycle going.

I have come across many clues over the years that points to Gaiseric being the Previous egg of the king user who was born into the real world just like Griffith. He came out of nowhere to conquer the land, was called the demon king, worn a specially designed armor just like Griffith. His kingdom was fated to go down in flames by the one who would become void. Pissed off that his desire to rule, his kingdom, and everything he wanted was taken away by another godhand, He would go on and hunt apostles and Godhand. He alone would have the power to kill a godhand every 216 years, and they get replaced. The longest living godhand now which is void is next on the chopping block this time since his replacement is destined to take down Griffiths Kingdom after they raise taxes take over. From chapter 358 I suspect minister Faus to be that replacement or someone else who is overly concerned for the people in the kingdom. There are many clues tying Gaiseric to the Godhand throughout the manga
 

Aazealh

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I have come across many clues over the years that points to Gaiseric being the Previous egg of the king user who was born into the real world just like Griffith.
Gaiseric became the Skull Knight, sworn enemy of the God Hand. So no, he was not a member of the God Hand.

He came out of nowhere to conquer the land, was called the demon king, worn a specially designed armor just like Griffith. His kingdom was fated to go down in flames by the one who would become void.
You're not remembering that tale accurately. Also, it's just an oral tale. Also, having a nice armor isn't the mark of being a member of the God Hand that has been incarnated on Earth.

Pissed off that his desire to rule, his kingdom, and everything he wanted was taken away by another godhand, He would go on and hunt apostles and Godhand.
That's not how it works. The God Hand is a team. They work independently but together, like the fingers of a hand. They each have a role to play in the grand scheme of their master, and they don't just fight for power. Otherwise you'd expect Femto would be in trouble.

He alone would have the power to kill a godhand every 216 years, and they get replaced.
Yeah? Well he must be getting old because his last few tries haven't been very successful. Ah, but the time isn't right, that must be it. But then why is he attempting? He should know better right? And why did he take a shot at Femto? What you're saying just doesn't hold water. There were four members of the God Hand before the birth of Femto, and not because one had just been killed. His arrival was celebrated as the completion of the group and the move to the next phase of their plan.

The longest living godhand now which is void is next on the chopping block this time since his replacement is destined to take down Griffiths Kingdom after they raise taxes take over. From chapter 358 I suspect minister Faus to be that replacement or someone else who is overly concerned for the people in the kingdom.
:ganishka: Thank you for the laugh, really. This is such a stupid, simple-minded take that it's hard to believe you're serious. Members of the God Hand just get periodically replaced, no big deal? Griffith's downfall will be raised taxes? And fucking Foss, of all characters in the story, will take over? And that's because he's concerned about the poor people of Falconia, since we know the God Hand is all about caring for the destitute. This is truly a masterpiece.
 
Not trying to be disrespectful, but even after reading your post, I'm not able to see how you were able to draw the conclusion that Gaiseric was a member of the God Hand.

If he was, don't you think he'd have better efforts in dispatching them?
 

Victor

"Don't forget your poison arrows"
All of the "clues" you've listed are taken directly from Gaiseric's tale, which even in the context of the story is presented as something not extremely accurate or reliable. It explains however why he was called names such as the Demon King by some people, which also ties into why he wore a skull-shaped helmet in battle, because he was a ruthless and intimidating fighter. I wasn't given the impression that there are supposed to be any deeper implications here, none that would be necessary anyway.

He alone would have the power to kill a godhand every 216 years, and they get replaced
I don't understand the belief that the God Hand members get cyclically replaced. What would a logical reason or end-goal for that be? Doesn't it make more sense that this was a cumulative process leading to the completion of some sort of grander plan?

after they raise taxes
You're likely referencing the tale again, which in turn parallels, to an extent, the fall of the city of Rome, but you're oversimplifying things. High taxes are just one of the many supposed reasons for the downfall of the capital, they could never be a determining factor on their own, that would be absurd and it's not what was implied in the tale.

I suspect minister Faus to be that replacement or someone else who is overly concerned for the people in the kingdom.
Foss' true nature is that of an opportunistic weakling. He couldn't be the proper ruler of a kingdom even in his wildest dreams.
 
The eclipse emblem that is on Gaiseric's chest plate and shield are also on Falconia. The same emblem that you can see in Holy see structures and other places throughout the story. There are two recurring emblems, one with a full eclipse and the other is an incoming eclipse. Now, usually you will see the emblems with five wings. Those five wings represent the five god hands that have been confused as angels but have been called angels especially in Gaiseric's story. Also, Gaiseric's story is a mirror image of Griffiths current story so far. Both came out of nowhere and conquered the lands. Both have extravagant armors, Both became basically kings of their own kingdoms. Mirror image. We know that not all apostles follow the rules and do go to war with each other. Prime example was Ganishka. Why would we completely eliminate the possibility of A godhand going against the others, especially since his kingdom was sacrificed? The egg of the king user so far is the only one in the story that has been able to be reborn in the material world and conquer to have his own kingdom. That is his only desire. For Gaiseric, his kingdom was sacrificed by the wise man. That means according to the incantation ceremony they must uphold the sacrifice, this time it was Gaiseric's kingdom and his people. There is a panel that shows guts thinking to himself that Gaiseric's story sounds just like Griffith's, on the same page the bottom panel shows Gutts linking Gaiseric to Skull knight. Kentaro Muira put all the clues there for people to see and it gets overlooked a lot. Now as far as the cyclic system to me it goes like this. Egg of the king user is chosen, he is then reborn in the material world at the 1000 year rebirth, he unites the warring states and becomes king. Now after all that is established, the kingdom's expansion becomes problematic, taxes are raised, incivility happens. One of the Godhands gets killed, (I suspect Void is on the chopping block for this one) His replacement sacrifices the kingdom and the people. The king and ruler goes on a rampage, goes on to hunt apostles and the other Godhand members. While doing so collecting behelits, At the same time the Idea of Evil is dropping behelits. Some time during the hunt the king gathers a party, a witch and others. His physical body gets destroyed while continuously fighting other Godhand members and apostles. His spirit never returns to the void, this leaves an open spot on the five godhand slots. His sould is then fused with the current skullnight armor to continue the fight. He kills an godhand every 216 years or so until 1000 years comes again. The eldest apostle remains (this time its Void). Now its its Griffiths turn to become the egg of the king user, he does the whole sacrifice thing and yada yada we all know whats next. Now this time Void is going to die, I suspect SK dies trying to kill him. The person who gets concerned for the people (the wise man this time) sacrifices the kingdom again. He replaces Void. The system starts all over again.
 
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