I don't think he's purposedly created the story so you could look too far into things, no. Some elements are clearly related and some aren't.Iscariot said:The point I'm trying to make is that Miura has set this up so that it could be taken too far, and that we really don't know which dots to connect yet.
Yeah, it's most probably because it's Elfhelm. At least that's how it is for now. Just like Godot's cave had magical properties, or the tree in Misty Valley, etc. What's sure is that it's not magical just because it's an island.Iscariot said:Yet that's all we know about the island. Why is it magical in itself? Just because it's where the elves call home?
Skellig isn't magical, Elfhelm is. That's a significant nuance.Iscariot said:I personally think Skellig and its magic will be given a novel explanation, if Guts ever arrives there. Maybe there's no need, but I feel there are just too many questions for the answer to be so clean-cut. But I'm getting off topic...
Yeah well that's not anything new, the ocean is connected to the astral world. Now we have no reason to assume this changes anything if somebody lives on an island or near a shore so I don't think that proves any point. Any continent can be said to just be a giant island, what matters is to be close to the sea. And even so, there might be other ways to be close to the astral world.Iscariot said:I'll definitely give you that - Roderick doesn't seem familiar with magic at all. However, I wasn't trying to imply that all islands are the perfect home for magic users, or that islands are filled with them. I was trying to say that while surrounded by water, a magic user might be able to utilize stronger magic.
Well, it's not a big deal, but we're not in Speculation Nation...Iscariot said:That's why I stated the following was on a speculative note.
Ok, I don't think that's the goal of this thread though. I mean, I can compile a huge list of unrelated elements and find fanciful connexions anytime but it doesn't serve any purpose, and in this case like I said to include them in the reasoning would just weaken the real, sure points.Iscariot said:Yes, but i was merely listing raw facts. Your logic compliments my little list well, but I really just wanted people to branch off of it.
He was close to the shore, nothing unusual.Iscariot said:That was a pretty shallow lake...
Yeah well, I don't think so. Really not. And nothing supports this at all. There's also no water/fate analogy, don't you mean causality?Iscariot said:The fact that the Beherit traveled by water strengthens the water/fate analogy, IMO, even if it can be considered anecdotal in essence.
Yeah I obviously understand this since I explained it to half the Internet. There's just nothing concrete about it, it's an analogy. We haven't seen Causality really flowing like a river, unlike what we've seen of the beherits or the Abyss. In fact we haven't seen any concrete manifestation of Causality yet. And it doesn't fit the way the rest represents water, i.e. the fact beherits are drops of it. They're not drops of Causality, and that's certain. This is what I meant.Iscariot said:I disagree. Slan's "jumping fish" comment practically cemented the deal for me. Casuality flows with the will of the Idea, thus it flows with the overall negativity of humanity. SK might rebel against the current, but cannot change it. You obviously understand this, so I'm guessing you don't see a strong plot connection because it's relatively anecdotal. I, however, predict a further use of this analogy. If not verbally, indicatively.