Walter said:Pretty insane episode. Parts were reminiscent of Lynch's early works, including Eraserhead. Though unconventional, it wasn't TOO hard to follow if you just make your mind squint a bit. It seems to be about the origin of Bob.
The nuclear blast in 1945 did some kind of damage to the realm where the beings of the black lodge and white lodge reside, which not only caused the woodsmen to manifest, but it also seems to be why/how Bob was unleashed by some flying evil thing's vomit. His egg took 11 years to hatch in the desert, and with the help of the woodsman, it embedded itself into a host, and presumably will be born into someone who will become the first host of Bob. Meanwhile, the white lodge people see all of this happening and send their own vessel into the world.
PS: THE Nine Inch Nails!
Eluvei said:Can't believe Club Silencio was in the White Lodge this whole time.
Nothingwillbewong said:Walter I can't thank you enough for expaining perfectly what i thought was incoherent mess, how the fuck did you pick up on this, maybe I'm just this dumb, still was a thrill to watch just for the weirdness and visual epicness
Walter said:This show is so much weirder than the original series...
Walter said:Not just Silencio, but also perhaps this scene from Eraserhead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmyzYBeGrE8
Eluvei said:It's definitely similar, but I meant he actually shot that in the same location he used for Club Silencio (http://i.imgur.com/wE4bL2D.jpg, http://i.imgur.com/2U3I8Pt.jpg). The radiator set from Eraserhead was built inside the Doheny Mansion.
Grail said:If anyone hasn't yet started on the History of Twin Peaks, this two week break might be a good time to get into it (I'm still working on it myself, but am already seeing some connections).
Gob and I were discussing the significance ofthe "birthing" of Laura Palmer's soul (or so it's heavily suggested in this episode). I'm still not sure how I feel about the idea of Laura being produced as an anti-Bob measure. I always liked the idea of Laura just being an ordinary girl faced with unspeakable evil. Anyone else have thoughts on this? Please tell me it gets better, because I'm drowning.
Nothingwillbewong said:Another thing, which I think might be too obvious to point out, but do you think the fact that the frog creature is a mix of a frog and a locust like in the plagues in exodus has any relevance?
Grail said:This was definitely one of those episodes that will help you to improve your Lynchian vocabulary. It has a lot in common with Eraserhead, Mulholland Drive, and Lost Highway
Walter said:In another Fire Walk with Me scene,Philip Jeffries points at the real Cooper, asking the group "Who do you think this is, there?" Which is likely an allusion to the scenario we're in now, with evil Coop inhabiting his body, and Jeffries is lost in time.
Which is all to say that despite the seeming incoherentness, this is a pretty well planned series.
The Beast of Darkness said:Rewatching that scene, I remember it but.I forgot about Jeffries pointing at Cooper and saying: "Who do you think this is, there?"
You're right about that... it all make sense now !
The question is: who did she became the host of ? The egg that hatched looked like any other that we could see inside "Mother"s vomit, while BOB's one showed his face clearly and was way bigger.
Walter said:It made sense by the time of Fire Walk with Me too, since we already knew by the time of the S2 finale that Evil Coop had possessed Good Coop's body. It just makes EXTRA sense now.
Walter said:I saw this confusing some others too, but to me I mean -- who else would it be? Bob's was the only face we saw in that cluster of eggs, even though his "essence" looked a little different.
The Beast of Darkness said:Yes, I also thought about about S2 finale while typing my reply to your quote, but yeah, you got what I meant. ;)
I know that this episode is focusing a lot on BOB but what if they are misleading us and the creature is MIKE ? The size of the egg, etc... it's too different to be BOB's one in my opinion. Also... look at the "egg" with BOB's face coming out of Evil Cooper, it looks the same as in the vomit. I mean, the woodsmen didn't removed a creature from his body, they removed the same object.
Walter said:Could be, I guess. It just seems like an awful lot of time to focus on the birth of NOT the main villain.
The Beast of Darkness said:Yes, I agree with that too. We will soon enough anyway (I hope lol). But the "process" of the egg/creature/first host is really fucked up (for Twin Peaks I mean), I wasn't expecting something like that.