Griffith said:In any case, it's amusing to imagine him hiding under Skully's horse all the way to Elfhelm.
Heh. Perhaps before Hanafabuku can work his magic, Rakshas will lop his head off...
Griffith said:In any case, it's amusing to imagine him hiding under Skully's horse all the way to Elfhelm.
Uriel said:Maybe Femto was expecting Skully to show up and asked Rakshas to be their for that very reason?
BerserkMJM said:Heh. Perhaps before Hanafabuku can work his magic, Rakshas will lop his head off...
BerserkMJM said:Heh. Perhaps before Hanafabuku can work his magic, Rakshas will lop his head off...
We already know Femto was expecting him. It's the first thing he says in the episode. But Rakshas' involvement is still a complete unknown. I still say he was there _just_ to witness Ganishka's fall. There's still a chance we could see a little more from his experiences on it in the following episodes.Uriel said:Maybe Femto was expecting Skully to show up and asked Rakshas to be their for that very reason?
Forget the Interstice man, it's just the brink between worlds -- not a real destination. Neither Schierke nor Flora explicitly include Apostles during their explanation in vol 24 about the inhabitants of the different worlds. However, since they're still essentially humans whose existence has been corrupted by evil, I'd say they're closer to the Astral world than the Ideal, yeah.Malachai said:The way i currently see it is that when a human (such as ganishka) becomes an apostle their form becomes more closely tied to the spiritual world, i'm guessing more closely than Guts or Casca (where the brand puts a person)...so beyond the interstice? Apostles are certainly closer to the abyss.
Indeed, it's not necessarily so at all. The Abyss is a huge "ocean of feelings." The Idea of Evil, or the portion we saw of it, only exists at a specific place within it.I doubt his descent into the abyss because i'm guessing that anyone who would travel to such an area would meet the Idea and that he would have remarked on it in some manner. But this is not necessarily so.
Hehehe, yeah, that's pretty much a guarantee. They'll be pointing out the elves as the Trolls and Ogres lumber out of the forest to rape their womenIn any case, i doubt people back in Midland will have trouble seeing Puck now.
What will happen to the world is still unknown as far as the specifics of it. And while there may be positive outcomes for those who can utilize them (magicians), when you come right down to it, the God Hand are not a charitable organization. There must be some devious way they can take advantage of this merging. I just can't imagine these evil overlords would "bless" the world in a way that would truly benefit everyone. But just what that negative repercussion will be remains to be seen for now. But it's very intriguing...gh-zodd said:do you think we will see some "good" spirits making appearances now that the worlds are becoming merged?
He's likely been through much more than this before. If he truly is Gaiseric, I imagine he won't rest until the destruction of his empire is avenged. This would just be an "oops" moment for him.Henry Spencer said:What the hell will SK do now? Will his fighting spirit be broken after this turn of events?
Walter said:======
Quotes aside, I'm wondering if this is really the end of the Falconia Chapter. It feels to me like there could be oooone more episode in it to wrap the whole thing up before the inevitable changeover to Guts as the new chapter begins. I'm REAAALLY looking forward to the next few episodes! I haven't been this on-the-edge-of-my-seat in a while.
Vampire_Hunter_Bob said:I think at this point Miura might just switch back over to the boat. That way when they get back to the mainland, we will see the changes from Guts and co's perspective.
Malachai said:Its interesting to me that while Miura show's us a clear change in the outward appearance of the humans (in which they all look like they've entered astral projections of themselves ala magic) we don't see any apostles? Are they going to change?
Griffith said:I thought of that too because it would be easy to lose him in the similarly ragged draping around Skull Knight's horse, would be really cool, and mostly because we still don't know what the hell he was doing up there, other than observing. That said, Rakshas being able to pull that off without SK knowing seems as far-fetched to me as Skully hitting Femto completely unawares: unlikely to succeed.
Griffith said:Anyway, I'm curious to see what Rakshas role in this is; was he shown just to establish that he was in fact there, serving as a bodyguard, or has he yet to complete his duty, whether that involve Skully, Daiba, or whatever?
BerserkMJM said:Heh. Perhaps before Hanafabuku can work his magic, Rakshas will lop his head off...
Malachai said:It seems to me that the necessary components for this reaction to occur are as follows: a twice transformed human (ganishka), a deep connection to the spiritual realm (provided by the beherit sword), and probably the merging of the realms
Malachai said:the reincarnation of Griffith
Malachai said:I guess my question is: why did this happen?
Malachai said:The way i currently see it is that when a human (such as ganishka) becomes an apostle their form becomes more closely tied to the spiritual world, i'm guessing more closely than Guts or Casca (where the brand puts a person)...so beyond the interstice? Apostles are certainly closer to the abyss.
Malachai said:When Ganishka put himself inside the apostle's womb he, obviously, changed again. I'd say that his connection to the abyss was far stronger and that level of connection to this realm is clearly represented in not only the difference in his form from other apostles, but also in his overall consciousness and awareness of the world around him.
Malachai said:Ganishka's initial remarks about reaching the abyss and drawing up its power are somewhat questionable in my mind. That is to say, i'm not entirely sure he entered the abyss, where the Idea resides but entered an area beyond the scope of the Eclipse ceremonies for certain (the vortex of souls?).
Malachai said:I doubt his descent into the abyss because i'm guessing that anyone who would travel to such an area would meet the Idea and that he would have remarked on it in some manner. But this is not necessarily so.
Malachai said:To me, it seems like his intact apostle body, combined with his strong will, allowed him to keep some semblance of form and ego upon coming in contact with the vortex of souls to the point where he even houses it within himself. His desire for the light could be contrasted with the evil spirits desire for bodily warmth?
Malachai said:(beherits seem to be tied to the abyss given their point of creation: The Idea)
Malachai said:a general overlap of the realms/ weakening of the Physical realm (Griffith's ability to perform miracles and make people believe in the impossible seems to be contributing to this in addition to his presence)
Malachai said:I base such speculation on the similarities to the abyss (see: lost episode) and pg 10-11 of 304 ( where ganishka is being replaced by a gigantic hole)
Malachai said:if that's the case...then it seems almost as if one world is being bypassed to bring the abyss closer to the physical realm. Given the way we've seen the beherit sword work in the past, as in Qliphoth, it seems likely that the physical realm is being pulled into the astral realm, thus helping to explain the astral like forms all the people are seen to take. Alternatively, it could be the other realms pouring into the physical realm (almost as if spiritual concentrations had properties akin to pressures of science).
Malachai said:What happens to Beast!?
gh-zodd said:do you think we will see some "good" spirits making appearances now that the worlds are becoming merged?
Henry Spencer said:What the hell will SK do now? Will his fighting spirit be broken after this turn of events?
Henry Spencer said:What does the preview text on page 21 say?
Uriel said:Just finished reading it.
Skullknight done fucked up now!
Funkmasta Zeph said:Guts is going to have to go through some super powerup if he even wants to get to Skull Knight's level of not succeding.
They are episodes not chapters (someone else would have come in anyways to corrected you.)EUIX said:The past few chapters have been blowing me away. Anyhow just had a comment since it seems pretty clear Femto was expecting SK and may or may not have needed SK's intervention to usher in the new world I am curious as to say maybe SK also knew that his attack would cause this changeover. Perhaps Femto/Griffith will somehow be "attackable" in the new world/vunerable and SK needed this to happen as much as Femto did. A "just as planned moment" for both parties perhaps?
gh-zodd said:I'm curious if this forces others with power like Flora out of hiding since I THINK it might be easier for them to be reached/attacked because of the recent events.
EUIX said:I am curious as to say maybe SK also knew that his attack would cause this changeover.
EUIX said:Perhaps Femto/Griffith will somehow be "attackable" in the new world/vunerable and SK needed this to happen as much as Femto did.
Death May Die said:So I wonder what the new world is going to be like? If its any worst than some of troubled towns of Berserk, times are going hard. I wonder if a big white castle is going to show up, and Griffith instantly becomes a king now that nothing is standing in his way. I mean he goats everything he needs, a princess, soldiers that are human and monster, he gots commoners, and even some of the religious folk. All he needs now a place with a throne, and after this big battle I bet everyone there is willing to fall to their needs for him. Thinking he beat such a creature and that good stuff.
Aazealh said:I wonder how they'll be affected, but the thing is, I'm not sure there are many like her left.
Aazealh said:I don't think he did. He aimed his attack at Femto, not at Ganishka. And it's Femto it would have hit if he hadn't distorted space.
Aazealh said:I don't think SK really meant things to happen like that.
Aazealh said:As for a white castle showing up, who knows. Falconia (the new capital) could also be rebuilt by Wyndham's citizens and Griffith's army (humans and apostles together). Or maybe when the light fades, a perfect city will be standing where Wyndham was before.
Griffith said:What's still interesting to ponder is if it was an isolated incident targeting her individually for her unique status, as it appears, or if it was one example of something greater being systematically carried out, perhaps still; a magic user final solution of sorts.
Griffith said:The way Femto was literally manipulating it between his fingers makes you wonder if the blow was even a direct deflection of Skully's original strike, or if Femto captured it for his own, spun it around, and could have played jump rope with it, before slapping it down between Ganishka's eyes. Or, if there's even a difference, but semantics and interpretation aside, whether or not Femto was being more passive or active about it, I doubt it was an accident on Femto's part.
Clawed The Bum said:I don't know if someone else has said this but!!!!!! Ganishka has died so Daiba doesnt have no one to follow. He's going to be the next person to join Guts crew!
Clawed The Bum said:I think that Daiba will attack Femto or maybe SK one last time, but Rakshas will be all like "I will be the one to kill him" and deflect his blow.
Clawed The Bum said:Also, was Raskhas waiting on top of Ganishka the whole time or was he waiting for Femto? If Femto knew that SK would be there wouldn't he know about him?
Marik said:But was Femto that turned the Ganishka hell into light just touching him? (the bearer of light)?
Or the SK strike provoked that reaction?