kapsi said:Now that we see Falconia is a happy place, do you guys think the other Godhands may have issue with that and maybe fight Griffith? After all they seem to be evil, and an "age of darkness" is supposed to be coming.
This really is a little off topic, so I apologize in advance.Aazealh said:No, no the members of the God Hand are not going to fight among themselves. As you ought to know, Griffith, who is really Femto, is himself a member of the God Hand, and his intentions are not good. What we saw of how Falconia works on the surface hardly means much regarding his actual goals.
Beyond that, seems to me the age's been pretty dark in Midland ever since Femto was born, between the great plague and famine, Ganishka's invasion, and now the world being filled with hostile creatures.
Vodnak said:This really is a little off topic, so I apologize in advance.
Vodnak said:Briefly speaking, the basis of the argument is that Griffith is serving the subconscious desires of human beings as the God Hand Femto, because his destiny intertwines with what people wanted, which was a savior so to speak.
Vodnak said:And thus you have the prophecy about the Hawk of Light, and then Schierke's little counter prophecy about how he's really the guy to usher in the true age of darkness.
Aazealh said:No, no the members of the God Hand are not going to fight among themselves.
Doc said:Not directly, maybe, but outside of enforcing the IoE's will, the God Hand's only proviso is "do as you will". They're no longer "floating around in their favourite sephira" as Slan put it. This could turn out to be more of a game-changer than meets the eye, since this is the first time they've all inhabited the physical plane together. I wouldn't go as far to predict how this would unfold, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if their individual whims ended up clashing with one another.
Doc said:Like I said, I'm not going to try and second-guess what Miura has in mind.
The biggest problem with your speculation is, so far, it's groundless. We've not seen any interaction between the God Hand to suggest that they aren't of the same mind, that is to say, that they aren't in complete agreement with each other.Doc said:Not directly, maybe, but outside of enforcing the IoE's will, the God Hand's only proviso is "do as you will". They're no longer "floating around in their favourite sephira" as Slan put it. This could turn out to be more of a game-changer than meets the eye, since this is the first time they've all inhabited the physical plane together. I wouldn't go as far to predict how this would unfold, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if their individual whims ended up clashing with one another.
Delta Phi said:The biggest problem with your speculation is, so far, it's groundless. We've not seen any interaction between the God Hand to suggest that they aren't of the same mind, that is to say, that they aren't in complete agreement with each other.
Doc said:I think it would be a waste to have this world-shattering event bringing the God Hand into the physical plane only for them to carry on the status quo.
kapsi said:BTW - "floating in sephira" means they can live in mythological worlds they choose? Or maybe create their own? Is Ubik really having tea in a Bosh painting?
Aazealh said:It's originally a term from the Kabbalah. Its meaning in Hebrew is "enumeration". It traditionally refers to 10 attributes that God can manifest himself through. I'm not going to post lists here, but note that those attributes are metaphysical in nature and can be rather vague (stuff like "knowledge", "compassion", "determination", etc.).
The precise meaning of the word within the Berserk universe is unconfirmed as of today. Don't believe anyone that tells you otherwise. However, based on the word's meaning in our world, I believe it is safe to assume that it refers to equally vague notions and concepts in Berserk (e.g. Conrad: death, disease, misery; Slan: lechery, pain, punishment; Femto: ambition, ruthlessness; Void: knowledge, etc.).
It is also important to note that the real Sephirot are purely positive notions. God in the Kabbalah is known as a "Limitless Light". And the negative equivalent of the Sephirot (not accepted by all schools as really existing), considered to be shells around them, are called the Qliphoth. Now you must be wondering: "what's the relation with the Qliphoth in Berserk?" Well there isn't really any coherent relation. So let this be a warning against the temptation to equate what the terms mean in the real world with what they might mean in the Berserk world too confidently. Miura often borrows real-world terms without sticking to the meaning associated with them.
kapsi said:Ok, so it's something, somewhere.