What are you listening to? (general music thread)

Seiren said:
But as much as we all think the album sucked and it did, really bad, the title track won a damn grammy! Tell me how that happens!?
Unfortunately, the Grammy's aren't the best measure for what's good in the music world. It's probably the award of the highest caliber within the music industry but the choices they make are awful. It's all about economics at the end of the day and not artistic ability. Slayer won a few times just because they're Slayer, the same with Metallica's win with St. Anger. If you look at 2003, and only within the metal community that to, here's what was MUCH better that came out - Blut aus Nord's The Work Which Transforms God, Gorgasm's Masticate To Dominate, Pavor's Furioso, Sigrblot's Blodsband (Blood Religion Manifest), Intestine Baalism's Banquet in the Darkness, Rompeprop's Hellcock's Pornflakes, Hate Forest's Battlefields ... among the few I remember.
 

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Botch - "We Are The Romans"

Also, in a similar flavor, Deadguy's "Fixation On a Co-Worker"
 

Oburi

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IncantatioN said:
Blut aus Nord's The Work Which Transforms God, Gorgasm's Masticate To Dominate, Pavor's Furioso, Sigrblot's Blodsband (Blood Religion Manifest), Intestine Baalism's Banquet in the Darkness, Rompeprop's Hellcock's Pornflakes, Hate Forest's Battlefields

They sound nice.

 

Oburi

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Don't know why this album is so addicting to me right now. It's a little beyond what I usually listen too. I saw them at Warped tour briefly and was surprised at their popularity. Decided to check out the album and it's strangely infectious.
 

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The new Wolves in the Throne Room record, which is pretty phenomenal. Parts of it sound like a more developed Two Hunters.

Also, Altar of Plagues' "Mammal".
 

Oburi

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New Wilco album. I really like it. Not as great as the epic Yankee Hotel Foxtrot but so far it's certainly got some great jams in it.

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New Bush album in over 10 years. I can find any instant hits like Glycerin, Machinehead, or Comedown and there are a few too many ballads for my taste but after listening to it more and more it does have some great songs. It's like their going in new directions from their classic 90's alternative but it's still got that sound to it, which is cool.
 

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Oburi said:
New Bush album in over 10 years. I can find any instant hits like Glycerin, Machinehead, or Comedown
Wait, you're serious? Bush? Instant hits? Machinehead?! People regard these as classics? I mean, sure when I was 13 this music was all the rage, but it's sort of embarrassing now that we've all grown up, right? Right?
 

Oburi

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Walter said:
Wait, you're serious? Bush? Instant hits? Machinehead?! People regard these as classics? I mean, sure when I was 13 this music was all the rage, but it's sort of embarrassing now that we've all grown up, right? Right?

I wouldn't say they are classics but I grew up with 90's alternative. Bush was awesome back in the day. Griff mentioned jamming out to Smashing Pumpkins and Stone Temple Pilots in another thread. I was going to say this is stuff that me friends and I still play. And machinehead is a hit. You ever see that late night commercial that sells a box set of all the hits from the 90's? They got all those Bush songs.

And I'm not embarrassed. I don't listen to it any more but I don't think there's anything wrong with those songs.

Man why's everybody making me feel bad about my music choices today? :sad:
 
I've been listening to a few Brutal DM bands that released albums earlier this year and Immolation here n there.

Last night I got to see Immolation play live for the 1st time and being a long time fan, being a band that's put out some of my favorite albums, I couldn't miss the show. It was fantastic. Didn't care much for the drummers triggers or the drummer (Hernandez ftw). Immolation for me is all about their first 3 albums. Albums 4 and 5 are good but incomparable to 1, 2 and 3. I heard their new EP, the songs are 'meh' and they sound a lot better when played live. Here's their set-list - Majesty & Decay, Swarm Of Terror, Under The Supreme, What They Bring, Close To A World Below, A Token Of Malice, No Jesus No Beast, Power & Shame, Dawn Of Possession, Still Lost, Den Of Thieves, Sinful Nature, Illumination, Into Everlasting Fire, World Agony (encore).
 
Its here:

EDIT:
http://www.loureedmetallica.com/listen-to-lulu.php

Metallica, these days, you either love'em or hate'em. I'm a fan of Johnny Cash, I have most of his CD's. He has a voice that shows its age on the last CD he made (very depressing CD at that.) So I guess I'm used to guys like Lou Reed sing. I realize its not for everyone. I didn't expect a Metallica album, not even thrash. This album is something else for sure. I think I like it. It at some points gets intense (not metal like) more like mood wise. Its like "hearing" a story, and Metallica is there to kinda set the mood. Reed's voice sounds dyer, old, and tired which adds character to it I think. A lot of people hate this entire project but I can see what they're doing with LULU, I think it turned out pretty all right. Don't expect things like solo's and leads, this album wasn't made for that. Its a story kinda. Lou Reeds voice is the character, Metallica sets the mood, and the lyrics is the narrative. This is made to be listened to alone, not a album to rock out to with friends. I don't know how explain it, its like hearing a movie. Lou was never meant to sing, rather play the part. His voice is portraying the part he is playing..
 

Griffith

With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
Did you mean to post a link to Lulu? And your review reads like a compilation of press clippings from the band. It's right in line with how they've been marketing the album, making you sound like...

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I get that it's supposed to be this pretentiously sophisticated piece of musical theater performance art, but that doesn't mean it's good. Particularly when that's largely what's not good about it, Lou's style or lack thereof. For all the times Lou's vocals hit, and he and the album have their moments, usually more mellow and reserved but sometimes "like a colored man's dick," most of the time he misses and takes the music down with him (Dragon is probably the most effective hard track, and indeed there were far better choices than The View for a single). It's certainly different, and weird, but in the same way any unnatural music mash up sound weird, only they actually did it organically. Anyway, as far as this is theatrical, the script is incomprehensible and Lou Reed's an unconvincing, self-indulgent actor, but I don't know, it's better than I, err not as bad as... aw, fuck it, it's a work of genius that cannot possibly be comprehended! The relationship is symbiotic, organic and machine intertwined, a union of flesh and steel, the weaknesses of both, the strengths of neither! LOU REED'S METALLICA MACHINE MUSIC! :SK:

BTW, pre-order the two different deluxe sets of this personal labor of art for a combined price of only $230! HOLY SHIT! ORDER TODAY!
 
I can definitely tell why people hate it. I like it in a overall sense. I'm torn about some parts of it. It does have a lot of weak moments and probably could of been a lot better. What gets me is in Junior Dad, Reed isn't that bad. I mean he's not great by any means, but he seems to actually be singing and not speaking monotone words. Why couldn't he do this more often in the album? It would of been a least a little more accessible to people who really wanted to give LULU a open minded chance. Its definitely a art thing from outta left field and I can't see a lot of people getting aboard. Its not a good style, but I personally can live with liking it.
 

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Taking a break from heavier music and listening to something FUN.

Battery - "Until The End"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI182MveoM4
 

Griffith

With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
Death May Die said:
I can definitely tell why people hate it. I like it in a overall sense. I'm torn about some parts of it. It does have a lot of weak moments and probably could of been a lot better. What gets me is in Junior Dad, Reed isn't that bad. I mean he's not great by any means, but he seems to actually be singing and not speaking monotone words. Why couldn't he do this more often in the album? It would of been a least a little more accessible to people who really wanted to give LULU a open minded chance. Its definitely a art thing from outta left field and I can't see a lot of people getting aboard. Its not a good style, but I personally can live with liking it.

Still liking it a week later? Here's a review by Chuck Klosterman which touches on some of your conflicted feelings about the album while making some other interesting points:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7146312/lou-reed-metallica-album

Here's the meat of what I referred to above, but there's plenty more, and I definitely recommend reading the whole editorial since I'm pretty much leaving out all the nuance, support, and humor. And hey, it beats listening to the entire album. =)

The universe is predisposed to hate this new Lou Reed/Metallica album, Lulu, and I totally understand why. It's not really designed for people who like music. It sounds like what it is: an elderly misanthrope reciting paradoxical aphorisms over a collection of repetitive, adrenalized sludge licks.

Yet there's still something vital about Lulu that needs to be remembered, even as you rip it off MediaFire and immediately forget the name of every single track: This was the dream. If considered in a vacuum, this absurd collaboration that no one wants to take seriously (or even play more than once) is the ultimate manifestation of what was once viewed as the idealized, unattainable goal of mainstream art.

If you think about Lulu within those specific parameters, it seems admirable. It almost feels important. But those thoughts are annihilated by the inevitable experience of actually hearing it.

As a rule, we're always supposed to applaud the collapse of the record industry. We are supposed to feel good about the democratization of music and the limitless palette upon which artists can now operate. But that collapse is why Lulu exists. If we still lived in the radio prison of 1992, do you think Metallica would purposefully release an album that no one wants?

The reason Lulu is so terrible is because the people making this music clearly don't care if anyone else enjoys it. Now, here again — if viewed in a vacuum — that sentiment is admirable and important. But we don't live in a vacuum. We live on Earth. And that means we have to accept the real-life consequences of a culture in which recorded music no longer has monetary value, and one of those consequences is Lulu.

For much of my life, I lived under the myth that record labels were inherently evil. I was ceaselessly reminded that corporate forces stopped artists from doing what they truly desired; they pushed musicians toward predictable four-minute radio singles and frowned upon innovation, and they avariciously tried to turn art into a soulless commodity that MTV could sell to the lowest common denominator. And that did happen, sometimes. But some artists need that, or they end up making albums like this.
 
Damn, I need to listen to the album even more after reading that haha! I'm definitely not going to buy it if it doesn't sound like their first 4 albums.
 
I will say it should have been better, but I'll probably pick up a copy. I think I admire what they were trying to do, than what they actually ended up doing. Like many have mentioned before, there is a lot of misses. But I do like the overall effect I get from the album. I won't knock Metallica or Lou Reed for this album, they're artist in their own way. I think this is just something they really wanted to do. I can definitely see why the whole world are hold their earswhile screaming to drown out the noise. But I still can't help but enjoy it. I guess I just see it more as a play/art than music. So it doesn't really bother me that much.

IncantatioN said:
Damn, I need to listen to the album even more after reading that haha! I'm definitely not going to buy it if it doesn't sound like their first 4 albums.

Don't waste your money man. Its not even... "Load" Heavy. I think it's a art piece album. Most of the tracks are improvised and 1st take master tracks. They didn't do much than mix it here and there. Although I kinda like it, I don't see anyone else on earth doing so. I'll be the first tell someone else not to buy it, unless your a HUGE fan, or REALLY open minded.
 

Griffith

With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
Good God...

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=165605 said:
According to the Associated Press, Lou Reed and METALLICA have tapped award-winning director Darren Aronofsky to helm a music video for their collaborative track "Iced Honey".

Well, I'll give them this much, they aren't just going away quietly into the night and pretending this never happened, they're owning it and trying to turn it around. It's almost like an experiment to see how bad something can be despite how many talented people you get involved. I guess we can look forward to Metallica's upcoming 3D film, LULU: THE MOVIE, directed by David Fincher! :troll:

BTW, the record was estimated to sell between 12-15 thousand copies in its first week. By comparison Metallica's last album sold half a million copies in its first three days. I think the leak and subsequent streaming of the album (I wouldn't have done that) really hurt its sales because I bet a lot of that half million might have bought it out of loyalty/curiosity if they didn't already know what the rest of it sounded like. And unlike other music from popular bands, purchasing this after hearing it would be difficult to justify. Anyway, that might be a good thing in the long run when one considers the backlash already; imagine adding to it the bitter accusation of defrauding your fans. Streaming free on the Internet is just a more appropriate context for a personal project that probably shouldn't have been released for public consumption anyway. On the other hand, it could become the most talked about album nobody ever bought!

Speaking of which, here's Rolling Stone's expected non-review copout:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/lulu-20111101
 
Hi there,

Well, it s a good way to introduce my music taste on this topic!

I am fan of classics band like 'pink floyd', 'Queen', 'Deep Purple', 'The who', 'Pat Benatar', ... But I am listening also 'Fantomas', tomahawk, faith no more (album of the year is one of my favourite album), tool, perfect circle, mr bungle, Helmet, the melvins (Houdini is a f....g album) ...., the Dilinger escape plan! Yeah, I am a fan of Mike Paton! This man is incredible! And I prefer listen to Dave Lombardo in Fantomad than in Slayer (it s maybe an offense for slayer's fan :-))!

I don t know if someone listen to 'The Mars Volta' or 'At the drive in'! their music is awesome too!

However, my favourite band is 'Karma to Burn'! I am mad of Their heavy sound guitar (Gibson SG guitar + Marshall = the best heavy sound of the World :-) )! they made 4 albums and the forth are AWESOME !

And just for some curious, if you want to listen to some french sound, I recommend :
- Nostromo : Hysteron _ Proteron. A metal acoustic Album!

'Good bye, cruel World... I am leaving you today... Good bye good bye good bye'
 
Griffith said:
BTW, the record was estimated to sell between 12-15 thousand copies in its first week. By comparison Metallica's last album sold half a million copies in its first three days.

Yep, the royalty checks from those 15K copies of Lulu sold should probably be enough for Reed to finally buy himself a brand-new Porsche car that he always wanted, to replace that old clunker Honda moped of his :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDLAM48TmJQ


Griffith said:
I think the leak and subsequent streaming of the album (I wouldn't have done that) really hurt its sales because I bet a lot of that half million might have bought it out of loyalty/curiosity if they didn't already know what the rest of it sounded like.

Well, taking into account the level of utmost delusional self-aggrandizement which Metallica has had displayed before, during and after Lulu's release, it all indicates they simply weren't expecting the fans NOT seeing this piece of sonic atrocity for an exquisite musical masterpiece that it actually is.... in their insanely out of touch, deluded minds.
 

Griffith

With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
Joe Chip said:
Read this , i think you'll like it. http://theangryfijian.com/2011/10/24/dear-metallica/

Nah, I don't really get taking serious umbrage with it. I mean, really, who cares (unless you're a Metallica sadist)? I actually like that this exists; I'm way more entertained than I probably would have been if they'd all just done a palatable straight ahead rock album that everyone could like and pretend is better than it really is. That would have been mediocre and faded into obscurity, whereas this spectacular flaming wreck will live in infamy. :guts:
 
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My vinyl came in last week and I've been spinning it on repeat. Tracks X, XI, XII and XIII stand out. I can't wait for the 3rd album for this trilogy. I prefer Sect 777 though only because it has it's share of BM tracks and the bass on TD is almost non-existent.
 
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