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Beave
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You know, some people, occasionally, keep on saying that Guts raped Caska.... I hear this floated around in conversation on the board now and then, in passing. I'm a little confused about that whole incident.
It was not my understanding of the situation that Guts raped Caska. I mean rape as in sex, as in penetration, etc. I really thought he ... physically or emotionally abused her, but it was my understanding that he actually stopped himself before he actually raped her. There is the pic of the Berserk demon/dragon having sex with her, but I didn't take that to mean Guts was doing so-- more that it was a projection of what his mind wanted to do. The Berserker demon is trying to convince Guts throughout the episode to take what he wants, to be like Griffith, and I took that pic to be part of the mental/visual convincing.
Also, right after he "returns to himself" Caska is on the ground and he has some distance from her. Yeah, I guess the "pulling apart" inbetween stages could have just not been shown, but why not? That isn't like Miura. He typically shows everything sexual in detail. Thus, I took the episode to mean that Guts stopped himself before he did the deed, so to speak.
I think this rather imporant to one's understanding of Guts... as he always seems on the verge of letting in to his darker tendencies, but keeps on pulling back just before the brink, as with the armor, where Schierke "found" him, before he was totally lost in the Berserker rage. His actually raping her just doesn't seem to fit into the other character choices he keeps making.
What are other people's opinions on this? Is there a general concencus one way or the other? Or did Miura leave it deliberately inconclusive?
It was not my understanding of the situation that Guts raped Caska. I mean rape as in sex, as in penetration, etc. I really thought he ... physically or emotionally abused her, but it was my understanding that he actually stopped himself before he actually raped her. There is the pic of the Berserk demon/dragon having sex with her, but I didn't take that to mean Guts was doing so-- more that it was a projection of what his mind wanted to do. The Berserker demon is trying to convince Guts throughout the episode to take what he wants, to be like Griffith, and I took that pic to be part of the mental/visual convincing.
Also, right after he "returns to himself" Caska is on the ground and he has some distance from her. Yeah, I guess the "pulling apart" inbetween stages could have just not been shown, but why not? That isn't like Miura. He typically shows everything sexual in detail. Thus, I took the episode to mean that Guts stopped himself before he did the deed, so to speak.
I think this rather imporant to one's understanding of Guts... as he always seems on the verge of letting in to his darker tendencies, but keeps on pulling back just before the brink, as with the armor, where Schierke "found" him, before he was totally lost in the Berserker rage. His actually raping her just doesn't seem to fit into the other character choices he keeps making.
What are other people's opinions on this? Is there a general concencus one way or the other? Or did Miura leave it deliberately inconclusive?