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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #100 on: April 13, 2003, 12:34:54 AM »

And it's so interesting that Flora's talisman doesn't work at all. Yeah, she said it just lessen the power of brand a little. It doesn't seem to cope with huge power of Godhand.


It isn't Flora's talisman.  That hasn't been completed yet; he'll pick it up after he finishes this mission.
This is simply Schierke's temporary seal.

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #101 on: April 13, 2003, 12:37:46 AM »
Hoy shi, holy shit, holy shit, I can't wait to see this! I can't wait!!!!!!!

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How is it that you came with this information first? do you get an early publication, do you have visions,...?
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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #102 on: April 13, 2003, 01:27:15 AM »
It isn't Flora's talisman.  That hasn't been completed yet; he'll pick it up after he finishes this mission.
This is simply Schierke's temporary seal.

Ah, I forgot. Thank you for reminding me. :D
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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #103 on: April 13, 2003, 01:39:40 AM »
Where is Farnese right now?

We know from volume 3 that once someone 'belongs' to God Hand that they cannot escape from a summoning. So unless Skully prevents it, Guts (assuming he activated the Beherit) would  be dragged off to hell if he doesn't make a sacrifice.

We also know that Serpico wants Guts dead, and if Farnese were to be sacrificed by Guts, it would bring a major new conflict to the story. Puck would likely remain loyal to Guts, but the Skull Knight could become another powerful adversary.  

And, with the power that Guts would gain, he and Skully could go toe-to-toe in a battle.  Not to mention that this would cause a major crisis of faith for Guts, where he would later question himself if he were any better than Griffith.

I'm probably WAY off, so I'll stop here.

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #104 on: April 13, 2003, 03:21:23 AM »
but,  Farnese doesnt mean anything to Guts.  why would he sacrifice her?  She's not important to him, and thus the sacrifice would not be accepted
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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #105 on: April 13, 2003, 05:51:04 AM »
maybe the Beherit is really meant for Farnese.

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #106 on: April 13, 2003, 05:59:16 AM »
maybe the Beherit is really meant for Farnese.

My money is on someone else...


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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #107 on: April 13, 2003, 06:33:47 AM »
My money is on someone else...


Ditto.

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #108 on: April 13, 2003, 06:34:59 AM »
that sounds much more likely
"You dance up to the edge. I doubt that a demon would even be so human. Beware what you may discover, and be warned that discovering you aren't really one of us may come after you have done something that can't be taken back. Continue dancing but beware of where it may lead you. Remember, an angel is no more human than a demon."  - Annah Hutchings god of artists

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #109 on: April 13, 2003, 06:52:30 AM »
naaaah... it's meant for Isidro once he realizes that he can't Never, EVER be as cool as Guts, tries to get with Schierke and gets his butt handed to him.....

...then he'll sacrifice Puck .....  :-X

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #110 on: April 13, 2003, 08:50:38 AM »

...then he'll sacrifice Puck .....  :-X

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I dun think Puck were any important to Isidro  8)

Maybe Farnese trigger the Beherit and sacrifice Serpico so that she can become a full time bitch like Slann  :D
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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #111 on: April 13, 2003, 09:10:48 AM »
i say Farnese because recently shes seen herself as too weak although i doubt she's sacrifice serpico, but i do think serpico would be happy being her sacrifice since his death would make her much stronger.  It would be his final way to ensure her protection.

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #112 on: April 13, 2003, 09:50:23 AM »
I disagree, Im not saying its impossible under certain scenarios, but I question the validity of that particular argument. In the last two chapters Farnese has discovered inner strength she never knew she had, which was even directly validated by Guts, her savior. The whole point was that she overcame her weakness in order to protect someone even more defenseless. Meanwhile, Serpico is hurt; feeling weak, helpless, and useless. He was delivering depressing soliloquies about his life and relationship with Farnese even before and then during the Troll battle, not to mention hes been against following Guts from the start. Again, Im not saying its going to happen or that Miuras foreshadowing it, but Serpico fits the profile a lot better than Farnese does at the moment. If, in fact, anyones going to use that Beherit to become an Apostle.

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #113 on: April 13, 2003, 11:41:33 AM »
I agree with you. It suits Serpico way better.

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #114 on: April 13, 2003, 11:50:27 AM »
Yes, I do aagree too.
But , as you said, we must not forget :
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If, in fact, anyones going to use that Beherit to become an Apostle

Because this is the starting point of all speculation :)

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #115 on: April 13, 2003, 01:06:03 PM »
But why Serpico? What's his wish, his desire? To destroy Guts? Nahh... that's too weak.

I think the most obvious one here is the one that's going to use it (if at all). Guts; he's hurt bad, he has a strong desire for something, in short he has almost everything he needs in order to activate the Beherit. All he needs now is an acceptable sacrifice (Casca) and the festival can start. But SK will likely prevent all this from happening now, so we'll probably have to wait another two more volumes to see the real activation of this Beherit. And my vote goes to either Guts or Casca (if she regains her sanity) as the one who ends up using it.

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #116 on: April 13, 2003, 01:17:01 PM »
Wow, Casca as an apostle... I wonder what that would be like?
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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #117 on: April 13, 2003, 04:48:49 PM »
Wow, Casca as an apostle... I wonder what that would be like?

kinda like a giant Teletubbie (with nice boobies)

i think serpico fits the profile for an apostle well, but...
what would he sacrifice?

Farnese means much more to him at this point than kicking guts' ass

i still think no one will use the Beherit to become an apostle
(but they might use it to summon god hand)
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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #118 on: April 13, 2003, 05:00:30 PM »
Judging by the results, they better not use the beherith to summon the Godhand. I mean look at what did  Slan alone and try to immagine the five of them really pissed off.
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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #119 on: April 13, 2003, 06:36:51 PM »
Judging by the results, they better not use the beherith to summon the Godhand. I mean look at what did  Slan alone and try to immagine the five of them really pissed off.

Yeah, I would have to say no one is probably wanting to summon the God hand at this moment... they have no plan or real know-how to defeat Godhand.  
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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #120 on: April 13, 2003, 07:05:39 PM »
However, Guts always acts from heart and no reason.
He tries to summon the God Hand since the beginning, even if he knows he has no real chance. So I think we can't say anything.

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #121 on: April 13, 2003, 07:20:00 PM »
Yes, that's right it should have been a way to call them and to fight them.
But I can't believe that Guts summon God Hand in order to sacrifice someone  and become an apostle. That's not like him

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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #122 on: April 13, 2003, 07:31:17 PM »
True. Guts is a sweet batsard ::)

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Re:Episode 219
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Re:Episode 219
« Reply #124 on: April 13, 2003, 08:43:10 PM »
ah very spicy
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