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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #125 on: October 04, 2003, 09:01:05 PM »
Page 20 shows no white hair on the back/side of his head. Clearly, just fog or something similar.

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« Reply #126 on: October 04, 2003, 09:06:55 PM »
I dont know if im the only one, but I hate the white hair.

To me, it represents the copying of a bunch of anime/mangas. I mean, Im sure we could count many anime/mangas where a character turns his hair white...Its not cool anymore, and its definitely not original. I fell into this series for its good plot and originality, and suddenly its just lost a bit of its originality.

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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #127 on: October 04, 2003, 11:01:23 PM »
I dont know if im the only one, but I hate the white hair.

To me, it represents the copying of a bunch of anime/mangas. I mean, Im sure we could count many anime/mangas where a character turns his hair white...Its not cool anymore, and its definitely not original. I fell into this series for its good plot and originality, and suddenly its just lost a bit of its originality.

It's definitely appropriate though. Extremely appropriate. He's been through an insane amount of stress in this battle. His body wanted to accept that it was destroyed, but his new armor wouldn't let him die.

In other words, he could carelessly throw his body around and do whatever he wants with it. No fear, no pain, and something that seems to be sort of a regeneration type effect with his armor, except he's losing blood. I mean, DIVING into his enemy with the DS shows that he completely let go of everything and concentrated solely on his hatred.

If that amount of stress on his body and psyche wouldn't turn his hair white, I don't know what else would. We had to expect something other than his normal body piercing injuries. Having patches of white hair in his mid-20s though, I reckon he'll be purchasing some "Just For Men" Gel soon.
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« Reply #128 on: October 04, 2003, 11:09:06 PM »
I didnt say it wasnt appropriate, i said that it was unoriginal. Anyways, does hair turn white instantly when this insane amount of stress occurs? I mean, he was in the armour for what could have been at most 3 hours...can a patch of someones hair actually turn white in that amount of time?


Lastly, i want to reiterate. Its unoriginal. You see this hair turn white thing everywhere...I mean, im sure there are other ways to show insane amounts of stress...oh wait, thats right. Insanity. Like the beast? Im sure there are many other ways to show stress, its just that someone got lazy and gave him white hair...
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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #129 on: October 05, 2003, 12:00:45 AM »
Shrug, it looks good on him ;p and it's a small patch anyway.
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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #130 on: October 05, 2003, 01:08:44 AM »
I dont know if im the only one, but I hate the white hair.

To me, it represents the copying of a bunch of anime/mangas. I mean, Im sure we could count many anime/mangas where a character turns his hair white...Its not cool anymore, and its definitely not original. I fell into this series for its good plot and originality, and suddenly its just lost a bit of its originality.

I don't like it much either, but I'll get used to it.  Besides, it's just a patch of hair, Berserk's going to be okay.  Besides, I don't think the whole wandering swordsman out for revenge bit could be considered very original, and yet I hear no complaints from you.  

I didnt say it wasnt appropriate, i said that it was unoriginal. Anyways, does hair turn white instantly when this insane amount of stress occurs? I mean, he was in the armour for what could have been at most 3 hours...can a patch of someones hair actually turn white in that amount of time?

Hair can't necessarily turn white the way it did with Guts.  If it's already grown out, the hair is dead, so it's color would not change.  But no one's ever been able to conclude whether or not stress will make it suddenly go white at the root.  The closest thing I've heard is that pigmented hairs tend to fall out when someone is stressed and could make white hair stand out more, but that would only work if Guts already had a lot of white hair.  So, in conclusion, it wouldn't work in real life, but who cares, it's manga. ;D
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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #131 on: October 05, 2003, 01:19:34 AM »
The beast isn't even that seperate.  Its a manifistation of his rage.  Its a part of him that he struggles to control.

The reason hes got that calm expression is that he braught his rage under control.  
Yes and while the beast may be reflecting some of his feelings it's taking them to new extreme's, such as trying to rape Casca he may want to fuck her like an animal but that does not mean he does. However the beast makes him do it.

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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #132 on: October 05, 2003, 01:32:52 AM »
Well, considering the fact that the armor itself DOES have incredibly magical properties, I'd say white hair suits the situation just fine. It's almost as if he's purged himself of a ridiculous amount of anger. My bet is that Guts is more focused than ever now.
"If I could strike one blow to spite their force, though I might bear one hundred more, I would wear the welts like rubies, and the shackles for a crown. And if I had one hundred hearts I would throw them all before their bullets before I'd sell a single one to wield their power. So lest we fall out of love with life, let us give all we have to give - for only a fool would cling to this world."

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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #133 on: October 05, 2003, 02:14:07 AM »
Lastly, i want to reiterate. Its unoriginal. You see this hair turn white thing everywhere...I mean, im sure there are other ways to show insane amounts of stress...oh wait, thats right. Insanity. Like the beast? Im sure there are many other ways to show stress, its just that someone got lazy and gave him white hair...

Maybe you're just reading too much into the whole thing and that's why you sound like a dipshit? I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from, though. Lastly, I want to reiterate, you sound like a dipshit.

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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #134 on: October 05, 2003, 02:19:07 AM »
Well, considering the fact that the armor itself DOES have incredibly magical properties, I'd say white hair suits the situation just fine. It's almost as if he's purged himself of a ridiculous amount of anger. My bet is that Guts is more focused than ever now.

Ok Viral, your Guts is the best.
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« Reply #135 on: October 05, 2003, 02:29:01 AM »
Maybe you're just reading too much into the whole thing and that's why you sound like a dipshit? I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from, though. Lastly, I want to reiterate, you sound like a dipshit.

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he might be right .... maybe guts should start mumbling and threatening to acost people at the work place instead

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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #136 on: October 05, 2003, 02:31:01 AM »
Ok Viral, your Guts is the best.

But of course O_o
"If I could strike one blow to spite their force, though I might bear one hundred more, I would wear the welts like rubies, and the shackles for a crown. And if I had one hundred hearts I would throw them all before their bullets before I'd sell a single one to wield their power. So lest we fall out of love with life, let us give all we have to give - for only a fool would cling to this world."

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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #137 on: October 05, 2003, 07:26:41 AM »
Lastly, i want to reiterate. Its unoriginal.

Yeah, and what's truly unoriginal is that in Berserk when people get cut they just bleed. I mean, man, is Miura that lazy that he can't think of something better than people bleeding when they get cut? ::)

Anyways, I don't care about the patch of white hair. I find it appropriate and that's all that matters, not every little insignificant detail has to be or can be original.

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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #138 on: October 05, 2003, 10:13:41 AM »
Guys, remember this is a manga, not real life: you can't search for a logical explanation for everything that happens in berserk, particularly after the introduction of magic.
And, sorry, but I don't think a small white patch in Guts' hair is enough to say berserk is not original.
At least, IMHO.

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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #139 on: October 05, 2003, 12:01:11 PM »
Guys, remember this is a manga, not real life: you can't search for a logical explanation for everything that happens in berserk, particularly after the introduction of magic.
And, sorry, but I don't think a small white patch in Guts' hair is enough to say berserk is not original.
At least, IMHO.

The hair turning white because of magic. It may be an explenation although I don't think Miura had this in mind. But I guess we can try to presume that Guts's white hair has to do with his spirit as people would perceive it. Remeber spirits are now manifestating in the real world and Guts merges with the spirits' world so it could be this a basis of a theory although I find it too much.
And the game plays on people's backs and they don't even have a clue about it, wasting their energy because their attention is distracted by the rulers' game itself.
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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #140 on: October 05, 2003, 04:52:11 PM »

Lastly, i want to reiterate. Its unoriginal.
Firstly, you're on my black list.
Lastly, you're on my shit list.

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« Reply #141 on: October 05, 2003, 07:00:18 PM »
dude, that's a fucking retarded thing, orginality has nothing to do with bodily effects, it's like saying "oh, he has to use the bathroom at a time like this? how unoriginal" bodily fuctions do not cease in order to appear orginal and this is more original then most animes I see, this isn't a sign of his power, a change in him, his KI being to great, no it's a fucking sign of stress on his body which you don't see in other animes. you don't see main characters who have a beast that tells them every moment to kill rape and maim, no no, that's not original now is it? in closing I would like to say fuck you.

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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #142 on: October 05, 2003, 07:25:24 PM »
You are scaring.
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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #143 on: October 05, 2003, 07:36:04 PM »
Wow, and I thought I was being a little harsh, now I kinda feel for the guy. I just thought it was stupid that he was making such a big thing out of a minute detail (especially after claiming he was interested in plot and characters and now I guess he's focusing on what Guts is doing with his hair). I was being honest though, I thought he was looking way too much into it (especially at this early point) and he sounded like a little jerkofff...er..I mean dipshit for it. But, does he really deserve having the whole board gang up on him?

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« Reply #144 on: October 05, 2003, 07:44:15 PM »
Dammit Janet!
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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #145 on: October 05, 2003, 07:47:44 PM »
Dammit Janet!

Janet from another planet?

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« Reply #146 on: October 05, 2003, 09:41:55 PM »
Janet from another planet?

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Nah. He just wanted to impress my dog.
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« Reply #147 on: October 06, 2003, 12:07:29 AM »
LETS DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!
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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #148 on: October 06, 2003, 12:51:23 AM »
I wonder why Flora shows up in the form of flame.
No doubt it means her body is dead in the real world.

But why the flame?
In order to stop Grunbled, fire to fire?
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It also implies she died in the flame?


Or....
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Re:Episode 229
« Reply #149 on: October 06, 2003, 01:21:44 AM »
I think that somewhat Flora is linked to the Tree (that was her home), it died in the flames and so did Flora. The flames that stopped Grunbeld, I suspect, were the flames that were burning the Tree. I also suspect that those flames are really the way of passing at another plane of existence for Flora and the Tree. A way of self-immolation at the end of the path of life if you prefer
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