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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2002, 10:11:08 AM »
Yep, Hail to the Witch!! I thought Isidro was going to do some damage tho, guess not  :-X
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2002, 10:27:47 AM »
Miura knows his stuff...

"Page 9"
Yod-He-Vau-He
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Well, that's indeed how you perform the banishing of the pentagram. ^^;
("Yod-He-Vau-He" is better known as "YHVH", ie "Yahweh", by the way)

And on "page 12", Schierke talks about "the flow of the od". The "od" is also called the "odic force" or the "odyllic force", ie the "vital fluid" said to be flowing through all living beings.
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2002, 12:02:03 PM »
Thank you puella!
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« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2002, 12:05:06 PM »
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And on "page 12", Schierke talks about "the flow of the od". The "od" is also called the "odic force" or the "odyllic force", ie the "vital fluid" said to be flowing through all living beings.


Sounds like the Force from Star Wars ^^;;
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2002, 12:20:15 PM »
Mini-Rant: Geez, doesn’t anybody want to see a story progress anymore? “THE END!? THE END!?” Hush.

This chapter was cool, my favorite pic was Schierke’s haunting eyes at the end (despite the badass two-page spread of the fleeing trolls).

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P.S. Thank Puells, and hail the witch.

P.P.S. Isidro's got a girlfriend!!! ;D
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2002, 12:50:52 PM »
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The whole Roshinu sequence, what the hell did that have to do with the story anyhow?  

Too bad thats a lot of people's favorite story arc (me,  cronus, and even skully included). It was a great idea on Miura's part. For one, it got the reader to see Guts from am alternate perspective, showing us just how crazy he had become. And second, it was our first (and only, so far) really in depth character study of an apostle.
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2002, 01:32:36 PM »
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For one, it got the reader to see Guts from am alternate perspective, showing us just how crazy he had become.

ummmm....I though we already knew how insane in the membrane he was :D

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And second, it was our first (and only, so far) really in depth character study of an apostle.

Good point. But who cares about that particular apostle. I wanna see more about Zodd or the Skullknight. Imagine a whole volume dedicated to either one of these two!
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2002, 01:56:10 PM »
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ummmm....I though we already knew how insane in the membrane he was :D

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Good point. But who cares about that particular apostle. I wanna see more about Zodd or the Skullknight. Imagine a whole volume dedicated to either one of these two!

Well maybe YOU dont care about her, but unfortunately, there are other fans that care about her. Miura will get to his main characters. And honestly, what the hell would an entire volume of Zodd or SK be doing in the middle of the series? Like I said, he'll get to them.
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2002, 02:00:53 PM »
Great Chapter!!!!! Really love the two page spreads by Miura, he seems to be getting better every chapter. Now, after seeing so many trolls I was thinking that maybe they were created by an apostle or they could just be random creatures and nothing special.
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2002, 02:24:24 PM »
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Now, after seeing so many trolls I was thinking that maybe they were created by an apostle or they could just be random creatures and nothing special.

If they aren't "Shito Modoki" ("semi-Apostles") created by some _true_ Apostle, I don't know what they are...
They could be something "new", as the Berserk world is "changing"and is becoming more of a heroic-fantasy world because of Griffith's return...
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #60 on: March 29, 2002, 03:08:22 PM »
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Miura will get to his main characters.


Yeah i guess, but not soon enough!  Dammit!
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #61 on: March 29, 2002, 03:09:20 PM »
In the previous chapter Miura did show the mark of Casca bleeding while the first troll approached, and so far we have seen the mark react that way only to godhands, apostles, spirits, and possessed. Since Miura did take great care to show us that particular is no doubt important.
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2002, 12:20:22 PM »
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In the previous chapter Miura did show the mark of Casca bleeding while the first troll approached, and so far we have seen the mark react that way only to godhands, apostles, spirits, and possessed. Since Miura did take great care to show us that particular is no doubt important.


in otherwords, they react to "evil" for lack of a better term. they really might just be another race, seperate from apostles, kinda like faeries, but since they're (presumably) bad, it makes the brand react. i think they even say something about the brand reacting to "evil" when Guts fights femto in volume 3, don't they?
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2002, 02:26:46 PM »
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in otherwords, they react to "evil" for lack of a better term. they really might just be another race, seperate from apostles, kinda like faeries, but since they're (presumably) bad, it makes the brand react. i think they even say something about the brand reacting to "evil" when Guts fights femto in volume 3, don't they?


Without Volume 3 to refer to at the moment, I would say that the translation as 'evil' is off.  'ma' has many connotations and one of them is indeed 'evil.'  However knowing what we know now about the hierarchy of GH, Idea, etc, the meaning clearly is 'magic' or 'sorcery.'  Since apostles are essentially no longer human and have crazy powers presumably by the will of the God Hand (beings of 'magic') that is what makes the brand react, not whether they're more of a bastard than the others :)
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #64 on: March 30, 2002, 03:42:36 PM »
Puck might have a new girlfriend, too. :)
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #65 on: March 30, 2002, 08:53:17 PM »
...and no means of procreating :-/
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #66 on: March 31, 2002, 12:31:28 AM »
What I wanted to point out was that the trolls could be controlled by someone (an apostle ?) and that someone did have a purpose for the attack. And that purpose was probably Casca, and Casca alone, since, with so many of them, it would be easy for them to attack Guts also. And don't tell me that they were afraid, because to give them their due, none of the members of the "Evil Kindom" was never afraid of Guts. True, Dragonslayer could cut them to pieces but they attacked neverthless.

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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #67 on: March 31, 2002, 01:38:34 AM »
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What I wanted to point out was that the trolls could be controlled by someone (an apostle ?) and that someone did have a purpose for the attack. And that purpose was probably Casca, and Casca alone, since, with so many of them, it would be easy for them to attack Guts also. And don't tell me that they were afraid, because to give them their due, none of the members of the "Evil Kindom" was never afraid of Guts. True, Dragonslayer could cut them to pieces but they attacked neverthless.


Wow. I really need to start paying more attention. I kinda gave up analyzing Berserk a few volumes ago, glad to see other people do the work for me!  ;D Excellent assertion Roberto!
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #68 on: March 31, 2002, 04:03:27 AM »
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Miura knows his stuff...

"Page 9"
Yod-He-Vau-He
Adonai Tzabaoth
Eheieh
Agla

Well, that's indeed how you perform the banishing of the pentagram. ^^;
("Yod-He-Vau-He" is better known as "YHVH", ie "Yahweh", by the way)


Is that the lesser banishing? I think so, but I doubt it be enough for anything but peace for one self.
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #69 on: March 31, 2002, 02:57:46 PM »
hm.  I think that we're supposed to have drawn some parallels between the old Band of the Hawk and Guts' new band of hooligans.

bear with me in my pseudologic:
- Guts:Farnese:Serpico::Griffith:Casca:Guts

here's a few i'm less confident with
- Guts:Isidro::Gambino:Guts (minus the abuse and prostitution).
- Guts:Millenium Falcon Arc::Witch Girl:this arc

Perhaps the new group will mirror the different stages in guts' life? (horrible childhood, Hawks, Soloing out of revenge, new band)?
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #70 on: April 01, 2002, 09:01:49 AM »
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Too bad thats a lot of people's favorite story arc (me,  cronus, and even skully included).


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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #71 on: April 01, 2002, 12:23:45 PM »
plenty o' boobies, but Miura's assured us that satisfaction. ;D
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #72 on: April 01, 2002, 02:55:36 PM »
Thank you Puella!  ;D  
Btw, how long do you usually keep the chapters up on your site?  

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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #73 on: April 01, 2002, 04:03:56 PM »
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Btw, how long do you usually keep the chapters up on your site?  


good question, 3-4days after posting it.
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Re: Episode 198
« Reply #74 on: April 03, 2002, 05:37:22 AM »
shit i missed it cos right now i can only go online at work  :'(
and i wasn't working during the easter days. *crying silently*
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