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Current Episodes / Re: Berserk Guidebook
« on: October 01, 2016, 02:31:18 AM »
Wow, uh... hi Olivier! Long time no see? The last time we spoke, I wasn't even a father yet and now my son is in pre-school.
Oh, wow!

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when it comes to the Zu and Su differentiation in the spelling of Mozgus' katakana, it's elementary, right? If it were supposed to be "Mozguz", the letters/sounds would have been repeated. Instead, they're different -- thus, Mozgus.
Not necessarily, no? In a whole bunch of languages using the Latin alphabet, the same letter may be pronounced differently depending on the context. Here, the final "Z" being pronounced "S" wouldn't be that shocking to me.

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Well, that one's just a fucking mess, isn't it? Anyway, in that example, they didn't have ズ and ス sitting right next to each other, so I can sort of see how someone not adept at English would have transliterated the sounds poorly into katakana.
B-b-but why are you even talking about English, there? It's not an English name, so you shouldn't expect it to sound (or be transliterated into kana) like one.
Is it really a poor kana transliteration? I believe it's a Polish name, and I'm not nearly familiar enough with the language to tell.
(For whatever it's worth, a quick look at Wikipedia tells me that the Polish "Z" sounds /z̪/ or /s̪/ when devoiced...)

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Are all the MBR spellings gospel?
Oh, I'm not arguing they are! Just pointing out that it's not the first time I've seen that spelling.

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Either way, two sources can be wrong twice in a row. Carcus, for example.
... I don't know that that one is wrong either, actually.

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ズs aside, what's been going on with you lately?
Nothing, really!

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What'd you think of the 2016 anime?
I don't know why they bothered.

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Current Episodes / Re: Berserk Guidebook
« on: September 30, 2016, 08:12:09 PM »
A lot of those spellings are just not possible, and some directly conflict with known official YA spellings as well...
Which ones are you thinking of?
(if you have a list of those YA spellings, I'm interested!)

Locks is actually the only feasible name among the ones they bungled. For example, "Mozguz" is impossible. It's written as モズグス, not モズグズ. Gurunberd may be phonetically correct, but it looks like they didn't bother making it an English name. Like leaving Griffith as Gurifisu. Guennon also isn't possible, based on the way it's spelled in the manga. Same goes for Carcus (a repeat from before).
I'm going to have to disagree, there. "Impossible" spellings? Whah? The names should look (and sound) like English names? Whaah??
For example, a quick Google search netted me one "Ewa Guz-Seroka" whose name was spelled as "エヴァ・グス=セロカ" in Japanese. Pesky non-English names!
(it was also spelled "Mozguz" in the MBR edition of the series, for what it's worth)

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 329
« on: June 19, 2012, 02:32:44 PM »
Straight from Japan: the name of the elf is "チッチ", which I guess could be romanized as "Chicchi" among other things.
Maybe "Titch"?

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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
« on: July 14, 2011, 09:37:38 AM »
Welcome to the board!
Thanks!


Yeah, I was surprised as well. But then again, the trailer mentions the other movies as well, and those two shots (Griffith on the Hill of Swords and Guts fighting the H.I.C.K.) are at the very end, so I think it may just be to give the viewer a sense of what Berserk in general is about.
Well, yeah, but the other movies that are mentioned are parts II and III of the Golden Age arc, so... (Will those other arcs even be made into theatrical features?)
As for giving the viewer a sense of what Berserk in general is about, I agree... It's just that they might try to do that not just in the trailer...

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I'm not too hot on the idea of flashforwards, as I think they'd need to be done reaaaally cleverly not to suck. Who knows, though?
Yeah, I'm not sure that would be such a great idea to play with that... But then again, if you adapt the whole thing strictly chronologically, you don't get the whole "awww, they appear to be be BFFs right now! what happened between them?!" / "OMG, that's Puck! he was the Elf Judo was referring to!" / "so that's how he lost an arm and an eye!"...
Dunno. I'm preparing myself for some serious reshuffling / reframing, just in case.

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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
« on: July 14, 2011, 08:55:34 AM »
Hi guys, first time poster!

We definitely won't see them in the first movie.
Still a bit surprised we'd have footage (even possibly test footage) from later arcs like that in a trailer for the first movie...

Wild theory (might very well have been mentioned before, sorry):
If they skip the first volumes to jump into the Golden Age arc directly, that means movie audiences (unlike manga readers) won't know that Griffith eventually becomes Guts' enemy, right? Maybe there will still be something. And maybe that something won't be from the first volumes of the manga, if you catch my drift...

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: The Walking Dead
« on: November 17, 2010, 03:00:36 AM »
Basically, I completely agreed with you, Griffith... up to the point where you talked about admiring Lost in comparison.  :ganishka:

I guess I just didn't expect contrivances like that only three episodes in...
The main character being the main character, he gets to say "next time, don't let the safety on" to a woman who really should have known how to use a gun at that point (or what was she doing there in the first place?), just like he gets to decide what happens to the van (never mind the fact he's this disoriented new guy who wasn't even around when the world collapsed).
Merle cut off his hand because... he snapped? I realize we barely know the character, but considering the guy survived a zombie apocalypse with his hunter of a brother for a while and volunteered to be part of a dangerous expedition, I'm not sure I'm on board, there... And it's not like the guy was too dumb to realize he could use that saw on the chain instead: he even brought that up last week.

If this were supposed to be some mindless, trashy zombie movie, I wouldn't really have a problem with stuff like that... But that's not how they're selling the show, is it?

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: The Walking Dead
« on: November 17, 2010, 12:56:52 AM »
How the Walking Dead dealt with it:

Soooo we need this bad guy to be left on the roof, but we also need to give him a way to eventually escape. But at the same time, we need the good guys to be good guys, so they can't just abandon him. They have to try and get him off the roof, and fail.
How do they fail? Maybe the zombies got inside and prevented them from reaching the roof? But if they did, they're going to kill our bad guy, and we can't have that. So, er...
I know! They go there but drop the key down a drain. Tough luck. And then, they have to leave. But how does our bad guy escape, then?
I know! Tools! They had tools, and they forgot them on the roof! But why didn't the bad guy used them before, then?
I know! We could have them drop the tools and the key right before leaving! But in order to have them leave in a hurry, we need to have some kind of impending danger, and our bad guy would be exposed.
I know! They leave some chains on that door!
OK, so it might be a bit contrived, but that's nothing some slow-motion can't solve.
Also, it wouldn't be so cool if the good guys went back to find the chains gone... Let's delay that reveal... Oh, and we find out he actually severed his own hand! Now, that's one hell of a reveal! I'm not sure it makes sense... but chances are viewers won't be sure it doesn't either, so let's do that!


How Lost would have dealt with it:

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And how exactly do you know that they didn't try and rescue him? For all you know, they did, but something went wrong, and they dropped the key down a drain or something. Just because we didn't see it happen, that doesn't mean it didn't. It's called an ellipsis, you morons, look it up. Once again, haters would like everything spoon-fed to them... Why don't you go and watch NCIS: Los Angeles or some stupid shit like that, and leave the finer works of literature to intelligent people?

"Boohoo, he's gone from the roof and yet the door is chained, that doesn't make sense, the writers are stupid!"
Of course they're stupid, that's why they make millions off their work and you're here complaining on the internet. Or maybe they're just much smarter than you, did you consider that?
And that doesn't make sense? Sorry, but... do zombies make sense? And yet I don't hear you whine about that. Funny how that works.

As for him cutting his own hand... After all the crazy stuff that's been going on, you still expect those characters to be sane? It's just realistic. Not that I'd expect you to be able to put yourselves in the shoes of those characters. Too complex, huh?

Sheesh.

Anyway, back on topic... When she found out he was still alive? Damn. I was just bawling at that point, and I swear Miss Tiger (my 4 weeks old kitty) was, too!

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: The Walking Dead
« on: November 16, 2010, 10:37:51 PM »
Actually, the basic fuck ups here have me admiring Lost's advanced, graduate-level bullshit. They also did drama better in their sleep, even when just phoning it in.

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Nah.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: The Walking Dead
« on: November 16, 2010, 03:53:10 PM »
I actually took it that he found another way off the roof. Not that he'd somehow broken through the chains and put them back. That just sounds stupid.
(That was the joke...)
I'm just wondering how he disappeared (everybody seemed pretty sure that door was the only way for the zombies to get on the roof, so what other way would there be to get off the roof? did he pull a Die Hard right after severing his own hand?). And where all those zombies went.
I guess the next episode might have a decent explanation as to how situation A turned into situation B after all, but considering the contrived lengths the show went to in order to get to situation A in the first place, I must say I'm a bit skeptical...

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: The Walking Dead
« on: November 16, 2010, 06:06:19 AM »
Murrel got the saw but used it on HIS HAND instead of the chain, which both confirms that he escaped and gives us a clue as to his mental condition.
I guess putting the chains back on that door wasn't just pointless but also pretty difficult, with just one hand.

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Not even the first episode? That was fast. ^^;

Oh, well.
For the others (who live in the States, anyway):
http://www.hulu.com/the-tatami-galaxy

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'Finally watched the first episode of Yoj˘han Shinwa Taikei / The Tatami Galaxy, and I think it's safe to recommend the series.
I mean, seriously. Entirely worth checking out.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: TV Series: Lost
« on: May 26, 2010, 10:09:44 PM »
there were a few of those that were answered -- just not very well.
Then again, it's not exhaustive either...
How did Eloise knew where Desmond would want to buy a ring for Penny, or that the guy with the red shoes would die?
What was up with the test Richard had young Locke pass? Was he assuming he would recognize the compass as being his? Why?
Why did Pierre Chang use aliases in the different Orientation videos?
Why did he have both arms in a 1980 video for the Pearl, explaining how the workers would have to observe what's going in the Swan station, when we've been told he lost an arm during the 1977 incident before the Swan station was even built?
Why did the DHARMA Initiative bother with the Pearl and Room 23? What did those have to do with the island and its strange properties/powers?
Why did the DHARMA Initiative let two guys handle the Swan station ever since the Purge if the fate of the world was at stake? Why didn't they ever come back?
What stopped Widmore from going back to the island if he had the address of Eloise's station right there on his desk?
What was the "loophole" that the Man in Black used to kill Jacob, and that he supposedly discovered sometime after trying to have Richard do the deed?
Who killed the other passengers of the Ajira flight?
etc.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: TV Series: Lost
« on: May 26, 2010, 08:55:44 AM »
I'd actually like to compile of a list of unanswered questions and fudged details now that the show is over.
Here's one.

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Ben and Widmore have a dramatic talk in Season 4. Widmore asks if Ben has come to kill him. Ben replies, "We both know I can't do that."
And then, he did anyway.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: TV Series: Lost
« on: May 05, 2010, 11:43:32 PM »
And the timing on this show is really starting to bug me.  OK, so the sub is diving, you're scrambling like crazy to take care of a serious looking gunshot wound, during this scramble you find the bomb with like four minutes left on the timer.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU NOT HAVE TIME TO SURFACE THE SUB?  How the fuck long ago were they supposed to have started diving?  How the fuck did they get so allfired deep so fast when they were leaving from what looked like a dock in a cove anyway?  Why would they even WANT to be diving so deep so fast?
You know what else dived fast? The sun. Not the Korean girl (well, she did dive quite fast, I guess), but the actual sun.
Night time when they escaped from the cages, day time when they got in the sub, and night time again when they escaped from it, what? less than ten minutes later?
All right, show! No problem!



Finally, I liked how Locke took orders from Sawyer for no reason when they attacked the sub while he stayed behind for backup. Nobody questioned it either, like it's normal for the invincible god-like being who just saved their asses to be the rear guard during an assault he decided on in the first place.
Also, note how Sun and Hurley, who are unarmed, are part of the strike team. 'Makes sense!

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: TV Series: Lost
« on: May 05, 2010, 06:34:18 AM »
WOW! This was by far the best episode yet in LOST for the foley artist responsible for creating all the gratuitous and unnecessary gun cocking sounds.
That reminds me... An Italian site uploaded supposedly leaked script pages of the final episode, and I'm not sure how anyone could doubt they're the real deal, considering this part:
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Suddenly, CLIC-CLICK, a RIFLE BOLT being COCKED, and Sawyer feels the cold steel of the BARREL on the back of his neck.

Anyway...

I love how Sun and Jin keep talking to each other in English. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. "Our viewers are too dumb to be moved if they had to read "I love you" instead of hearing it!"
Thing is, I think I'm not dumb enough to be moved by that death scene anyway, considering how nonsensical the whole thing was.

So Smocke can't kill the candidates directly. Because he's not allowed to. By "the rules". Remember how Ben couldn't kill Widmore or vice versa? Yeah, same kind of deal. It would seem whoever wrote "the rules" might be completely arbitrary but sure cares a lot about drama.
Anyway, Smocke can't kill the candidates directly. So what does he do?
Well, simple enough: he takes a watch from one of Widmore's goons, immediately spots the bomb that Widmore planted on the plane (for some reason? were the candidates just a Smocke bait, as far as Widmore was concerned? and can Smocke be killed by an explosion, now? wait, why am I even asking questions? 'guess the show needed another bomb, so there it is!), grabs it, says "let's go take the sub" (that should be easy, considering he's a smoke monster, and all... OK, so he doesn't turn into smoke form in the end, but it was easy anyway), quickly turns the goon's watch into a timer (now, there's someone who plans ahead), puts the bomb in Jack's unexplained-but-so-convenient backpack (seriously, it looks like Jack had been carrying a backpack these past episodes just so Smocke could pull that trick.. if you were wondering why he kept the mysterious backpack when he swam back to the main island, two weeks ago, well, there you go!), and assumes our heroes would try defusing the bomb (because the timer Smocke added so quickly is also a tricky one... and it would seem that, according to "the rules", them trying to defuse the bomb counts as if they, not Smocke, set it up in the first place... don't ask... say, if Jack couldn't kill himself with dynamite, maybe Sawyer should have kept the bomb he just tried to defuse, and it wouldn't have blown up? that makes sense, right?!) without resurfacing with the sub.
A sound plan.
I mean, it's either that, or letting Widmore's bomb kill them all in the plane, and... Oh. Yeah, he could have done that, too!

Just like he could have let Jack die in the mortar strike. What was the point of saving him, again? Even the inconsistencies are predictable, on this show.

So we get four deaths (yeah, Lapidus probably died, too... and no, nobody cares... why should we?), and judging by the obnoxious violins or pianos, we should be sad instead of wondering what the hell the writers were thinking.
(gotta love how they show that Jin is fine in the flashsideways immediately after the death scene, too... yeah, we get it: you think your viewers are a bunch of idiots)

In the end, Sayid turning "evil" (?) proved to be about as essential to the plot as Sun forgetting how to speak English.
Yeah, he killed D˘gen (who was the one who kept Smocke out of the temple, apparently? why did they let Contagiously Evil Sayid roam around the temple and near D˘gen, then? and what about the ash? why am I asking questions, again?), but since I'm still not sure as to what the point of the temple "plotline" was anyway... Apart from finally showing us the "famed" temple (without telling us anything about it, naturally), that is...

Same thing for Sawyer's little adventure last episode: They're all back together less than a hour later. What was the point? Oh, yeah: "exciting television". I keep forgetting.

Gratuitous cameo of the week: Bernard.

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'Finally watched the first episode of Yoj˘han Shinwa Taikei / The Tatami Galaxy, and I think it's safe to recommend the series.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: TV Series: Lost
« on: April 22, 2010, 02:50:24 PM »
So much BS. I don't even... Urgh.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: TV Series: Lost
« on: April 22, 2010, 06:16:41 AM »
So let's have a little talk, Smocke. ... No, wait, Hugo is the leader now. Ah, no, that was just because last week was his episode. Too bad, Hugo! Sorry you're still fat!
So let's have a little talk. I have lots of questions (especially compared to all those guys you promised answers after killing their friends at the temple... guess they just forgot about them while trekking in the jungle).
First off, I have no idea what you are.
"I think you do."
... OK, that's good enough for me.
Next: why Locke?
"Well, he was dead, and you brought his body back, so I could look like him."
Well, that, too, is good enough for me, considering I haven't seen that episode where you impersonated Richard's wife, nor listened to that podcast where the writers said some of the Walter apparitions were actually you in disguise.
Say, were you my father, too?
"Yup, 'sure was. I thought you'd need some water."
And I thought you were trapped here. Why did I see you back in LA, a little while ago? And good thing I don't know about all this, because I would also wonder how/why Michael saw you on the freighter right before dying, why you were looking like my dad who wasn't even born yet when you were telling Locke to turn that Frozen Donkey Wheel...
Ah, well.
And I see you're already ready to go back to the camp, so I guess I won't ask why you chewed on our pilot, hugged trees, killed Eko, chased us-let us go-chased us again the next day... You probably had your reasons. And thanks for the water!
Oh, hi, Claire. So you know you're my sister? Gee, how long have you known? Wait, you also knew about our dad, Locke and the smoke monster being one and the same? That's not what you told Jin. Well, if that's how it is, I won't tell you that your mother got out of her coma!
All right, let's go back to the c... Wow! Daylight. How did that happen?

So you've spent a bunch of episodes just waiting around for the other candidates to show up. We miraculously do (because Hugo is a bit on the dumb side and forgot about that one time Jacob sent us out of the temple to keep us safe). We needed to all be together in order to leave and here we are... What's the plan, now, Smocke?
"Let's split up!"

... I dunno, some stuff about big groups being slower. It probably has something to do with Einstein. I'm sure it makes sense. Not sure why Smocke is in such a hurry anyway, all of a sudden, but OK.

"Also, here's what my stick was for! Dramatic walkie-talkie destruction! The wood hath spoken!"
Boy, the answers just keep coming, don't they?

"Sayid, go kill Desmond for me. I didn't do it myself presumably because of "the rules". That might also be why the well wasn't all that deep after all, who knows. And I didn't ask you to do that right away yesterday because... Well, I'm not sure. Widmore apparently wants him back (according to that woman we let go... just because we're at war, that doesn't mean we should forget our manners), so I feel like killing him off, now."
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"Hey, Sayid, thanks for killing Desmond off. Wait, did you do that off-screen? Ermm... Maybe I should go and check. After all, I am a super-fast smoke monster, so... Aww, don't give me that look. All right, I believe you, you murderer you!"

"Meanwhile", in the obvious epilogue...
Sun, who got shot the day after the plane landed, finally arrives at the hospital. I was getting worried. Since she crosses paths with Locke and we had been told last week that it'd been a week since the plane landed, that's... Yeah, well, she's safe, and that's all that matters.
Desmond still is his usual creepy deux ex machina self. Who wouldn't want to follow that guy anywhere?
Kate is probably innocent this time around, 'cause, y'know, how would she get her happy ending otherwise? ... Oh, right: Sayid. Well, sorry you're still Arab!
Also, gratuitous cameo of the week: Ilana.

Cliffhanger time!
Of course the first thing Sun would do upon being reunited with Jin would be to talk to him in English! It only makes sense! What was the point of her losing her speech? Well, she was the second character to lose and recover her speech for no discernable reason in the series, and that's got to be some kind of record. Guinness, baby!
Oh, shit! The deal with Widmore is off! After everything Sawyer did for him, like when... Er... Well, he's still a backstabbing bastard!
Mortar! Jack's only weakness! Nooo! Why couldn't it be dynamite?! Fortunately, Smocke is there to save his life! Because he's not really trying to have all the remaining candidates killed after all. Not right now, anyway. Apparently.

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I haven't been closely following 20th Century Boys (I think I read it up to volume 10 or so, was a while back).
Go past that, and try and disagree with me then...

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Someone's talking about Monster. I've sat through the whole thing one year ago. Here's my review:

The story has amazing elements that could've turned the series into a masterpiece if it wasn't handled by a self-indulgent, moralistic author. There's an annoying necessity to explain every single thing with a moral behind it, specially in the later episodes, where the viewer is fed with repetitive unecessary explanations for actions that seemed thrilling and misterious in the premise.  
What made me scornful of the series was the fact that a mystery/noir supernatural thriller gradually was turned into some moralistic "Disney" story where every act of evil needs to be justified and explained, where villains had to do evil "because they had to" so that the average viewer feels more comfortable knowing there is no such thing as "pure evil" and everyone if you look deep enough has a good heart. That is the apparent message that the series tries - not with much success - to hide behind it's "dark" and "gritty" mask, easy to fool the ignorant and easy to impress viewer. The characters were well fleshed out but the story started to loose its "bigger than life" motif towards the end. It got even cheaper in the conclusion, that frankly, was lame and unconvincing.
I was disappointed because i really wanted to enjoy it. It had a great start, but the author kept thinking i was a dumb viewer and i needed further more non-intriguing exposition. It was a boring summer, and i didn't have better plans. :schnoz:
Pretty much agreed on all accounts.

But it was still better than 20th Century Boys... That one was basically Lost in manga form, except with laughably superficial studies of the human nature (sometimes, we're gullible! or egotistical!) instead of laughably superficial couples/triangles/squares...
...
OK, that may be a bit harsh... Urasawa obviously had a plan for the first half-dozen of volumes. But after that, holy shit at the ridiculous nonsense...
"Intriguing, isn't it? Keep buying my stuff! [...] What do you mean, you expected answers? Ah, but all that mystery stuff wasn't what really mattered! Why would you think otherwise?! Thanks for the money though!"

Urasawa is easily one of the best mangaka out there.
Ow. Really?

But wait, that's off-topic...

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Oh, I know: I'm re-watching Aoi Hana, and it's still good. Let's hope they won't fuck up with the H˘r˘ Musuko TV series, now.

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I'm still not quite sure how I feel about 5CM/sec. On one hand, it's a really touching/sad story, on the other I feel like it was poorly executed at some points (namely the little "music video" at the end).
Awww... I like that part.
And speaking of ending montages I like: Mind Game.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: TV Series: Lost
« on: April 14, 2010, 10:32:07 PM »
The smoke monster was a really big letdown for me back then. The rest I could live with, but the monster was never "scary" again after that.
Ah, well, I guess I'm the forgiving kind for that sort of stuff... SFX are expensive, after all.

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I can't deny I kept watching it just out of curiosity for what would happen next. :farnese: Well, that and to diss the show on SK.net. :iva:
Precisely!

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Unless I'm mistaken I believe it was the Man in Black who told her that. He admits it to Kate after Claire jumps her, telling her it was so Claire had a goal and didn't lose her mind or something like that. Of course if she does say it was her father who told her about it I guess that proves they're supposed to be one and the same.
In usual Lost fashion, the writers kept the whole thing conveniently vague:
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JIN: Claire, how do you know they took him? How can you be so sure?
CLAIRE: How can I be so sure? Well, first my father told me, and then my friend told me, so I'm pretty damn sure.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: TV Series: Lost
« on: April 14, 2010, 08:23:20 PM »
Alright, who volunteers to go read all the fan-made transcripts of what the whispers say to check against this new revelation?
I love Lost fans.

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Looking back, I think that's actually when the show started going down for me. Then Eko's death in season 3 sealed the deal.
I was already quite a bit skeptical during season 1. Way too many different supernatural elements.
Then, with season 2 and the Dharma reveal, I thought "hey, even if they had no idea where they were going in the first season, maybe they fixed that over the summer... we'll just have to forget about the earlier stuff..." But season 2 got incredibly silly faster than you could say "WAAAAAALT!". The season finale was stupid in so many ways, it was mind-boggling. No faith in the writers whatsoever from that point. No reason to believe in a miracle for the show either.

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Has it really be confirmed to be him? Because the house was surrounded by the black powder that's supposed to repel him as well...
Ah, but the circle was broken when Ilana and Bram got there! So whoever was using the cabin (and it wasn't Jacob, according to them) might have escaped!
(well, the Smoke Monster had been roaming around the island for years anyway, but hey: details!)

Also, the writers said Jacob never appeared as someone else, Claire said that her father told her the Others had her baby, she was in the cabin with him when Locke was told to move the island, Christian is the one who told Sun and Lapidus to follow "Locke"...

I mean, sure, Christian was obviously really supposed to appear on Jacob's behalf, initially, but the writers gradually changed their mind later on...
"Hey, we could say there's also an "evil Jacob"! And we could blame him for the Others, or all those times "Jacob" or his spokesmen acted like assholes! Oh, hey! We could even say he's the Smoke Monster! And even that we haven't even seen or heard anything from the real Jacob yet!"
Shockingly, the end result is a mess.

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