Crazy mofo pulls out eye and eats it. ..Now who wants some sushi?
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[br]What everyone agrees on is the extremity of the crime. Mentally stable or not aside, this man committed a crime that goes beyond evil. To me it is not a question of whether the individual was sane or not but that he indeed commit a crime and he should pay for that crime. It shouldn't be an issue about how sane he was when he did it. If murderers are not rational in killing their own species why should we as law-abiding citizens be rational in deciding their fates. Kill the bastard. One less scum on the planet.[br]Okin said:
[br]You should be proud of allowing scum like this to live. Pedophiles are also mentally unstable. I guess you would agree in letting them live to prey on children. This mentally unstable crap has gone long enough. You're right these are scum that are mentally unstable and don't have rationale. So you can't just drug them and tell them to stop it. Medication only hides the problem and doesn't get rid of it. So in since they are irrational we should treat this murdering scum in the only language they understand and that is through punishment and death.Vampire_Hunter_Bob said:
So now that Bush has just 2 days left in office the capital punishment crew has their day? Talk about weird.
You guys better get a move on and hire a lobbyist, PRONTO! You've got about 48 hours before your window closes to get behind some juicy, federalized KILLIN!
You guys better get a move on and hire a lobbyist, PRONTO! You've got about 48 hours before your window closes to get behind some juicy, federalized KILLIN!
Vampire_Hunter_Bob
Cats are great
Really the way I look at it. He's crazy. For all I know he was trying to get the listening devices out of his families chests when they died during the operation.
Child molesters don't molest little kids because they think that's the only way to get the FBI to stop monitoring them. A schizophrenic maybe, but not a pedophile.
Anyways, I don't know why you think I suggested the guy should be let back out into public. My guess is you didn't read my post, but why should you? This guy is easily the most evil man to walk the earth since Ted Bundy and Jeffery Dahmer.
His sole intent might have been something completely different from what any of these people are thinking. Which something like this you can judge it as something black or white. What he needs is to be medicated and monitored. Does he pose a risk being out? Yes if un-medicated and not supervised.
ori said:
Child molesters don't molest little kids because they think that's the only way to get the FBI to stop monitoring them. A schizophrenic maybe, but not a pedophile.
Anyways, I don't know why you think I suggested the guy should be let back out into public. My guess is you didn't read my post, but why should you? This guy is easily the most evil man to walk the earth since Ted Bundy and Jeffery Dahmer.
Griffith said:Maybe he thought his family were mentally unstable evildoers, so everything he did to them was righteously justified?
His sole intent might have been something completely different from what any of these people are thinking. Which something like this you can judge it as something black or white. What he needs is to be medicated and monitored. Does he pose a risk being out? Yes if un-medicated and not supervised.
Pedophiles were an example to counter your previous statement:
, or genocide.(So Femto needs to die.) Jokes aside, I'm not capital punishment crazed and think that if you stole some gum from a store you need to die like some people think. I think capital punishment should be for heinous acts such as what this scum did and not fall into some loophole where he can remain to live in some asylum somewhere.
[br]It just sounded like you have some kind of sympathy for mentally unstable people that do horrible things yet are still released. Pedophiles are proven mentally unstable yet some are released back out in public along with therapy and medication.I was just using this as an example of mentally ill people.Vampire_Hunter_Bob said:
[br] I never suggested you said that he would be released back in public. I explained why you may have thought that. Also as I said before medication is only there to hide the problem not solve it. Why is it hard to see that if anyone who kills in that fashion for no apparent reason be allowed to live simply because some quack labels him as "mentally unstable"?Vampire_Hunter_Bob said:
[br]To me, death is only for criminals who commit murder, sexual molestation(especially)rapeWalter said:
, or genocide.(So Femto needs to die.) Jokes aside, I'm not capital punishment crazed and think that if you stole some gum from a store you need to die like some people think. I think capital punishment should be for heinous acts such as what this scum did and not fall into some loophole where he can remain to live in some asylum somewhere.
NightCrawler
Aeons gone, vast, mad and deathless
ori said:
I welcome you sir to the Justice League for Genetic Purity!
Griffith
With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
I have some objections, and clarifications, concerning the mentally incompetent:
1. The glib dismissal of mental incompetency and it's ramifications. It's that kind of attitude which helps keep people like that on the street, untreated and unwatched, so they can commit these heinous acts in the first place.
1b. The dehumanizing and blanket labeling of such people as "evil" or "scum" or whatever. That in itself is dangerous enough, but in some cases, we're talking about people who have a mind equivalent to an infant, child, or feral animal. Still okay to brutally torture them to death? Is that to teach someone who can't even understand a lesson, or to derive our own twisted satisfaction? I'm not trying to justify or excuse their violent acts... I'm just trying not justify or excuse ours' either.
2. Nobody is saying they should be let go, it's not a case of give them liberty or give them death. There's plenty of middle ground as Bob and Beast of Darkness discussed. Using this case as an example, assuming the guy is clinically insane, I wish he'd been identified, diagnosed, and in custody before he could do something like this.
3. Finally, the unrepentant bloodlust on display here. It goes far beyond prevention or justice, to the point of a free indulgence of one's own violent urges without suffering conscience. The extreme calls for violence, particularly against even those that are mentally ill, is truly disturbing and sad.
1. The glib dismissal of mental incompetency and it's ramifications. It's that kind of attitude which helps keep people like that on the street, untreated and unwatched, so they can commit these heinous acts in the first place.
1b. The dehumanizing and blanket labeling of such people as "evil" or "scum" or whatever. That in itself is dangerous enough, but in some cases, we're talking about people who have a mind equivalent to an infant, child, or feral animal. Still okay to brutally torture them to death? Is that to teach someone who can't even understand a lesson, or to derive our own twisted satisfaction? I'm not trying to justify or excuse their violent acts... I'm just trying not justify or excuse ours' either.
2. Nobody is saying they should be let go, it's not a case of give them liberty or give them death. There's plenty of middle ground as Bob and Beast of Darkness discussed. Using this case as an example, assuming the guy is clinically insane, I wish he'd been identified, diagnosed, and in custody before he could do something like this.
3. Finally, the unrepentant bloodlust on display here. It goes far beyond prevention or justice, to the point of a free indulgence of one's own violent urges without suffering conscience. The extreme calls for violence, particularly against even those that are mentally ill, is truly disturbing and sad.
Vampire_Hunter_Bob
Cats are great
I think that's pretty common among rapists and a non-violent repeat offenders too. Neither of them are mentally ill, much like a child molester and they all get out of prison. [Well the repeat offender will get out of prison, the rapist and pedophile more then likely will be murdered in prison.] If you want to complain about when these people get out of prison, go to law school, graduate and get the number of years they are there changed from whatever to life.ori said:
Anyways, you are comparing people that are severely mentally ill [My baby has a ufo in it's head] to someone that is mentally disturbed [pedophile or rapist]. A child molester is fully competent to stand trial because he, even though s/he is mentally disturbed, makes a choice knowing perfectly well that what they are doing is wrong.
Then stop arguing with me about this guy getting released. It's pointless because he's never getting out.
It's been said several times. What you see as a murder for no apparent reason. He sees as something completely different. If he had been medicated before all of this he never would have done it. You seem to have more of a problem that the guy was labeled mentally unstable then any thing else.
Oh man the sweet life! I want to be crazy too.
NightCrawler
Aeons gone, vast, mad and deathless
Scorpio said:I guess the only matter that really comes to my attention is can he really be helped? It seems more than likely that he can't, so at what point does society consider taking care of him in prison a burden and stop paying for it? Feels like socialism!
OMG run away, it's the black plague, socialism.
Yeah, lets all kill incurable retarded children while we're at it.
