asmer said:But his Band his mostly (or not?) composed of Apostles, some of them looking somehow Human, when on the other hand, a lot really look monstrous, so I guess its gonna be quite hard not to look demonic at all!
"Griffith No More!" said:
cajunman380 said:My two cents.
Anyone else think those pirates that azan chased away during the brief arc with sonja and schierke will make a return? it would be a good way for Azan to reintroduce himself.
cajunman380 said:As for Griffith.. you know i have to wonder. with all the power and minions he has swinging around him, as well as the ability to apparently make people do what he wants regardless of their own will (example .... Mule). Why would he even bother with making a performance. As the skullknight said. There isn't a single being in the living world who can challenge him. Its not like the holy see can do much about it even if they gave Griffith the finger. SO i just have to wonder why he does it at all? better yet why does he even need the army? could it be he may not be as all powerful, or that by choosing a human form his power now has limitations or it isn't as infinite as before. I mean once Griffith becomes king all hells gonna break loose anyway i imagine.
cajunman380 said:As for Griffith.. you know i have to wonder. with all the power and minions he has swinging around him, as well as the ability to apparently make people do what he wants regardless of their own will (example .... Mule). Why would he even bother with making a performance.
Mitsu_dunDee said:Ok guys I hope this was discussed before, otherwise it means you are all jerks but there IS something that really bothers me at the end of this EPISODE, particularly the last page.
Top square: Guts' right eye half open, looking at griffith...
Middle square: Gut's LEFT eye barely opened BUT opened however !! (10 bucks to the first guy who finds a pics of gut's left eye opened (even just a little) after the eclipse....
Walter said:I don't think Guts would care too much about some hokey-sounding prophecy. Also, Elfhelm is on an island called Skellig. They may have to do some exploring on the islane before they find the uh, town? city? village? ... hovel? they're looking for. I doubt they'll see elves flying around the island from a distance
Mitsu_dunDee said:Top square: Guts' right eye half open, looking at griffith...
Middle square: Gut's LEFT eye barely opened BUT opened however !! (10 bucks to the first guy who finds a pics of gut's left eye opened (even just a little) after the eclipse....
Mitsu_dunDee said:That Guts is changing his mind and starts to think about something else than revenge ? This can be reinforced since he had discarded (postponed maybe :)) with Zodd ?
Mitsu_dunDee said:And MUCH more bothering Griff's eyes in last -1 page (anyone with a decent word for this ?) make me think of his former look upon Guts ( back to the golden age ) something between gay romance and plain blood lust. Again the ultra brave Guts have defeated (with help ok) Griff's enemy and none of its soldier were able to defeat the emperor (too bad zodd you're weak..) ...
CnC said:He's done this before in the series and it hasn't meant gay romance or blood lust, really. It can be he's marking Guts as an enemy or it could be surprise. Or he could just be staring because its more dramatic looking. Shit, he could be looking at Schierke for all we know (but admittedly that would go against the pacing of how these panels were laid out).
Guts Berserk said:Actually, I believe that was Griffith's patented "Hawk-looking-at-prey" look. He used it on Count Julius, Minister Foss and probably many more times....
CnC said:Other way around. Like Rhombaad said, Guts' right eye is gone. his left eye was open and then in the second panel is shown closing (most likely he competely passed out).
CnC said:Yea, thats kind of the point. He made a decision to protect casca, much to the beast's displeasure. His glancing back at Casca at that moment in this episode is to reinforce the viewer of that decision.
CnC said:you mean the 'second to last page'? I'm not sure why you would find this bothersome. He's staring at guts. He's done this before in the series and it hasn't meant gay romance or blood lust, really. It can be he's marking Guts as an enemy or it could be surprise. Or he could just be staring because its more dramatic looking. Shit, he could be looking at Schierke for all we know (but admittedly that would go against the pacing of how these panels were laid out).
I disagree :-) though confusing, I think the eyebrow direction is wrong...
Well, my apprehension to that conclusion would be that would mean Griffith in a way acknowledges Guts, against what he said earlier that he felt nothing towards him. Perhaps thats changed.
Mitsu_dunDee said:I think the eyebrow direction is wrong...:
Mitsu_dunDee said:Agreed but imho it is deeper than that...
Mitsu_dunDee said:Imho he stared at Guts, but it is unlike his formers look at GUts..
CnC said:Its not. Its inked similarly to the panel above it. But you're reading into this waaay too much. Its not his right eye opening. moving on...
CnC said:Deeper than that how? Please explain as you're being rather cryptic here.
Its really not that huge a plot point, really. Zodd basically gave Guts a choice to either leave or be slaughtered. Serpico diffused the situation. Its over.
CnC said:Yea. Like I said, it most likely (99.9%) Guts he's looking at. We just can't nail down his reasons for such a dramatic stare. Theres nothing conclusive about it until Griffith acts.
Mitsu_dunDee said:You are probably right but it still confuses me..Though his left eye was pierced so it would be unlikely to open with something inside....
picha-something
the big cloud with mustaches
Mitsu_dunDee said:You are probably right but it still confuses me..Though his left eye was pierced so it would be unlikely to open with something inside....
Mitsu_dunDee said:So yes it is deeper because he gave up chasing Griffith EVEN with Griff just around...
Though you can say that he already gave up hunting Griffith (omg I need a boat to cure Casca) he would fight knowing Griff "on the scene" (that's why he asked Zodd i guess).
Mitsu_dunDee said:We should speculate on this because without Guts the neo-hawks would not have managed to get rid of the pisacha, mainly because they would not have managed to defeat Ganishka (the big cloud with mustaches). Assuming Griffith knows this (and obviously he knows it or he is not Griffith..), he regained some worth upon his eyes. Now it's true that we have to wait until Griffith acts to see if it was a 'prey-look' or something else...
Well, Sonia met with Schierke and even recognised her to be a witch. As far as Guts' presence is concerned she hinted at it through that premonition she gave to Zodd just before he left for battle. Perhaps she didn't alert Griffith directly of what she knew but it is more likely that she did brief him on something that important (the presence of a witch). As far as factoring this into his battle plan my assumption is that if Griffith knew about it he would have probably issued some kind of orders. This leaves the door open to speculate wether Zodd dissobeyed such an order by letting them go. It's not very likely that he'd do such a thing, given his relationship to Griffith, but there still remains a chance...I can't see how Griffith would have expected Guts (or more importantly Schierke) to be there. If he had, its likely he would have ordered Schierke's death (considering his previous actions towards Flora).