Jhot obs said:Awesome episode as always. The pirate bastard's comeback should be fun. A rematch between him & Isidro maybe? Hope the sea battle is a rough-n-tumble swashbuckling, Errol Flynn inspired romp for Guts'/Roderick's crew. Though with how banged up Guts is, I don't see him doing much in the way of fighting. More likely, it'll be Roderick's turn to show how useful he & his crew are in aiding Guts when he's not supposed to do shit in his condition.
CnC said:lol. Sounds about right. Unfortunately for him he missed my argument blah blah blah
thesyndrome said:hmmm, could roderick be the tactition needed to topple griffith once he gains power? i'm thinking out of my ass, so don't take me seriously on that point
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Sparnage said:Thank you Saiya, and well well, isn't Roderick full of surprises. I can't help but feel out of Guts group, he is one of the most likely to be killed first or second.
Agree totally. It has been harder for me to keep my interest since I've been reading it from week to week, it's natural. I read up to volume 25 all within 2 weeks. Were there slower less interesting parts in certain episodes during the story? Dunno, I was onto the next Episode 5 minutes later and it connected well to the next one, so it wasn't noticeable. Now the longer we wait, in particular as the breaks between episodes becomes bigger and bigger it is inevitably harder to appreciate.
Almost exactly a year ago Guts and Zodd put their combined forces to give Ganishka a mark on his head. In another year, the crew will be just moving on from this pirate business.
I just have this picture of the Gut's crew and God Hand facing off with each other in a break dance battle.Smith said:I seriously hope Miura wont lose interest at all... Not seeing a senario where the story end all of sudden... With a big open end and waiting for someone to take over in Berserk 2
MaN said:I also think about how difficult it is for Miura to work on new episodes since he has to worry about continuity, expectations and motivation week after week to work on the same project.. well its commendable I guess. But I wonder if all these breaks indicate that he is getting tired of Berserk as well
MaN said:So over all IMO where the art (graphics/drawing/characters sketches/expressions) has gotten better, the story and pacing has slid down from its best moments. Say hello to Jack Sparrow!
MaN said:I am just a pawn but this frustration should mean something coming from the likes of Sparnage and GNM.
CnC said:i agree completely with what GNM and aazealh have said. This level of quality takes fucking time, people. This isnt your kindergarden level of manga. Quite frankly, those of you complaining about the spacing between releases have to keep in mind that your getting this for FREE. Saiya isnt under any obligation to scan and post this. Really, hearing people complain about pacing is infuriating.
P.S .. Buy the fucking manga.
Actually I disagree. I would say that this story line is continuation since the end of Volume 26 otherwise why go back to 22 and not all the way back to volume 1. Still we are on Vol. 33 and that is 7 if you take my opinion or 11 if you take yours. I use the manga itself as the basis. Take any set of 7 volumes and try writing down all that has happened in them. In my opinion, less has happened in the last 7 then probably any other set. Its not necessarily bad and may be 30 years from now when we read Berserk, it won't seem to stand out but for right now, I think it does.Now I mean no offense but that's a pretty stupid comment right here. The story right now is a continuation of the journey started in volume 22,
Look Aaz. I don't care if the pirate's character was planned in 2000 or in 1960. To me he just doesn't fit in very well with the Manga. He is too stupid to be taken seroiusly and been given much too screen time to just be a 'filler'. If he is just a tool to help develop the characters around Guts like Roderick then there are other ways to do that too as have been done in the past volumes with other characters. I don't want to see an apostle in every episode but having a sea battle with HIM doesn't really lift Roderick to the level of an awesome NAVAL Commander. To me the the whole purpose of the last 6-7 pages of this episode was that Roderick the "Prince of the Sea" but maybe I am wrong. Maybe there will be a fierce battle in the next episode.Aazealh said:As for your "Jack Sparrow" comment, I think it's really just sad that you're on that level of reasoning. I'm repeating myself, but it was planned that there'd be a sea faring part in the manga since 2000. Miura took a break and travelled to get data on ships and such in 2002. Do you understand?
Roderick is a badass on the sea, we see him demonstrate his ability, that's it. Too bad if you can't enjoy it.
Aazealh said:and putting aside the fact you've said the same kind of stuff about past episodes ....
MaN said:I actually didn't say anything about pacing at all. May be you should read my earlier post again
MaN said:So over all IMO where the art (graphics/drawing/characters sketches/expressions) has gotten better, the story and pacing has slid down from its best moments.
CnC said:maybe you should
MaN said:Actually I disagree. I would say that this story line is continuation since the end of Volume 26 otherwise why go back to 22 and not all the way back to volume 1.
MaN said:I use the manga itself as the basis. Take any set of 7 volumes and try writing down all that has happened in them. In my opinion, less has happened in the last 7 then probably any other set. Its not necessarily bad and may be 30 years from now when we read Berserk, it won't seem to stand out but for right now, I think it does.
MaN said:Look Aaz. I don't care if the pirate's character was planned in 2000 or in 1960. To me he just doesn't fit in very well with the Manga.
MaN said:He is too stupid to be taken seroiusly and been given much too screen time to just be a 'filler'.
MaN said:If he is just a tool to help develop the characters around Guts like Roderick then there are other ways to do that too as have been done in the past volumes with other characters.
MaN said:Lastly, I understood that GNM was being sarcastic in his first post but I can take his criticism and actually look forward to them because he imbues it with humor or sarcasm.
MaN said:Sorry Cnc My Bad ... I did say that. But that still does not mean that I am being ungrateful to people who put up stuff on this forum. The discussion of pacing relates to Miura
Griffith No More! said:Well, it's natural because that's when they started the journey to Elfhelm.
What's your definition of "stuff happening" though? I mean, there's been three major story threads done simultaneously in the individual focus on Guts, Griffith, and Ganishka. Plus, the details within (not to mention that those stories intertwine). To me the series has been crammed with more stuff than ever, and I don't think it's just a matter of perception. Just look at all the places they've gone and all the things they've done. Guts has been on this journey for more page time than he was the classic vengeful Black Swordsman, and there's been even more frequent encounters and battles. Look all the details and extra wrinkles added along the way with magic and whatnot (more has been revealed than we ever knew), I mean, this all makes Golden Age and the Black Swordsman stories (including Lost Children) seem a bit simple and straightforward, doesn't it? Maybe that's why it seems like more was happening, the arcs were smaller and there were more resolutions along the way. Clear beginnings and endings like short stories.
As far as Adon is concerned if I was an SK member when his character was introduced or discussed then I probably would have said the same thing. Are you telling me that every character that has been introduced is on the same excellence par?How is he any different than a character like Adon? Does he not fit into the manga either?
Yeah that is probably true and NOT what I meant by 'pacing'CnC said:As far as release schedules go there have always been breaks.
This is where I disagree thought CnC but part of the reason is due to what GNM mentioned. Character development has been not at its apex because he carrying a lot of characters along so he has to make sure that he gives time to everyone without forgetting about anyone. This causes the character development to be uneven and fragmented. There is good and bad to having a complex plot with a plethora of charactersAs far as narrative goes the story and character development is still as present as it always has been.
MaN said:As far as Adon is concerned if I was an SK member when his character was introduced or discussed then I probably would have said the same thing. Are you telling me that every character that has been introduced is on the same excellence par?
MaN said:As far as Adon is concerned if I was an SK member when his character was introduced or discussed then I probably would have said the same thing. Are you telling me that every character that has been introduced is on the same excellence par?
Griffith No More! said:But I think Saiya said it best, let's just have a beer and get back to this in seven volumes.