Oh, oh, thank you Puella and Aazealh for a quick translation so we can already discuss the latest events!
(Didn't thank you in the first post, what am I doing
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Griffith said:
Haha, yeah! Well, when after 5 years (for me) of waiting for this moment, I go at it like "Guuys, it's not the way I want it to be! Like the author has his own vision!", I think I can laugh at myself.
jackson_hurley said:
...and I would not be surprised if indeed Schierke and Farnèse are in fact somehow affected by that trip Inside Casca's mind. Like it or not, they sure saw some fucked up scenery there and even though they knew they were just in a dream, it can mess you up.
Aazealh said:
That brings me to what I think is an important detail: much like Casca's trauma has yet to be addressed, it's possible that Farnese and Schierke will feel the toll of what they experienced beyond the Corridor of Dreams. I wouldn't be surprised if they were haunted by what they've seen.
Probably this then. Could be an emphasis placed shortly after waking up or just afterwards. This, Casca meeting Guts, recalling all that happened, the topic of their child, the fact that a bunch of the group is now to varying extent familiar with the Band of the Falcon history... Whew, that's a snowball of themes and topics.
Griffith said:
Another pretty big factor is that Puck is an Elf and experiences and empathizes differently and deeply. We can debate how similarly Schierke and Farnese are being exposed to these memories and feelings in the state they're in and how strongly they should react in any case, but this definitely bolsters that Puck's experiences are unique. Another variable is it was Guts' memories/emotions too, and on top of the memory he was already consciously burdened by the trauma and anger that awaits Casca if that makes you feel better, Debbie Downer. =)
Sure, personally not the first time with the series when I went to analyze it "as 1s and 0s", this equals that, "the established rules of magic". It's a different and more correct thing to look at the corridor of dreams as a whole experiense, the fragments' visions AND Farnese&Schierke's journey through the dream, and when you do, it's incomparable with what Puck did and weighs more than just the visions, let alone separate ones.
Also yes, Guts was a walking boiling cauldron of emotions, heated by the eclipse, while Casca's dream sequence was of a broken mind containing... a rupture? If we switch and compare, Puck wasn't getting anything from Casca, while he even got images from Guts, and I don't even want to think what Guts's corridor of dreams would be.
I think I got too far with this.
Aazealh said:
I mean, regardless of the spores, she's wearing her robes and all. And if you look at the penultimate page, they're clearly being "called back" to the waking world by Danan.
Griffith said:
Also, making that last page of Casca the last of this episode or the first of the next makes no difference in the long run, but it provides a tremendously rewarding throughline and payoff of the completion of the ritual and its immediate real world consequences within the episode itself, and our experience as up-to-date readers, without stepping on the milestones to come such as her addressing the group, and Guts most of all.
What I'm saying is, this page made me realize two things: first, we're done with the dream, even though I could use more of it, and second, the pacing is not stopping, we're still moving forward like this!
I can't wait for what happens next in the story.