Kyosuke said:Uh where does it say that in the time line, all its says is, "1000 years ago - Gaiseric becomes the supreme ruler of several kingdoms and founds Midland". In the facts it says, "There is a mysterious link bewteen The Skull Knight, and Void, the details are not known but it is speculated to circle around the coincidental destruction of Gaiserics empire, and Voids rise to power". Again nothing about the Godhand not existing at the time of Gaiserics empires destruction.
Whats implied is that the 4 Angels that destroyed Gaiserics empire were in fact the Godhand: Slan, Ubik, Conrad and the newly acended (or decended might be a better word) Void. That the capital city "Kuniochuounochi" was branded as sacrifices for Void to become a Godhand, thus the branded skulls in Vol. 10 Pg.128. So all in all I think you may have just misunderstood what you read. No big deal.
brunoafh said:http://skullknight.net/encyclopedia/world/timeline/
It lists Void's birth before Gaiseric's kingdom was destroyed. Dont' get me wrong, I agree with all your speculations that the God Hand destroyed the kingdom and SK was most likley Gaiseric, but I was just wondering about this site actually.
Math. Learn it.brunoafh said:http://skullknight.net/encyclopedia/world/timeline/
It lists Void's birth before Gaiseric's kingdom was destroyed. Dont' get me wrong, I agree with all your speculations that the God Hand destroyed the kingdom and SK was most likley Gaiseric, but I was just wondering about this site actually.
Walter said:Math. Learn it.
Anyway, these jokers have it all wrong. My theory is that the 4 Kings of the World were summoned down by Void wreaked havok on Gaiseric's Kingdom. Then, Void's entrance to God Hand marked the whole branding incident.
Just my take on it...
brunoafh said:I know math, what does that have to do with the timeline. I think the GH was born before Gaiseric's kingdom. Otherwise who would the 4 angels be? When Gaiseric's tale was being told they said 5 angels destroyed his kingdom, and then someone corrected them and said it was 4 angels. Just a crazy idea but maybe Gaiseric was a God Hand and he united Midland and pissed off the rest of the God Hand and became SK. I know there is tons of flaws in that but it's just a wild thought.
Walter said:That's not a crazy idea, and in fact, was the most popular theory on the subject for a long time. But it has since been disproven. The 4 Kings of the World are more likely to have destroyed the kingdom. Ask Schierke.
Herald of Yama said:If I understand what Walter is saying, the wise man(whom many on this forum believe became Void) summoned the Four Elemental Kings and destroyed Gaiseric's kingdom. Afterwards, he made a sacrifice out of an entire city and became Void. (Please correct me if I misunderstood)
This would mean that:
1. The Wise Man was a wizard, not unlike Ganishka in the current age.
2. The Four Kings are entities who obey the summons of any human who knows the right incantation, regardless of the caller's intent.
3. Idea had other mediators besides GH in the past(Unlikely) or contacted the Wiseman directly.(Much more likely.)
How would Idea contact a human in the physical world when it "lives" in the Abyss? Simple. All humans that die in the Berserk world descend to the Abyss, so Idea brokered the deal there after the Wiseman died from overexertion and torture.
Eddie said:Maybe Gaiseric held a crimson Beherit, and these "four angels" were used to make fate come full circle and trigger the eclipse later on. Because I don't think we have any examples of what happens when a crimson beherit holder chooses not to sacrifice, maybe skullknight is the result of such a thing. It could be that he also went on living until he saw the next possible GodHand and tried to stop him from it but failed and that could be where the assumed vendetta for Void is, but i'm going far off on a limb here.
brunoafh said:It says that the eclipse happens every 216 years and a GH is born, and if Gaiseric's kingdom was destroyed 1000 years ago (assuming it's marked 1000 years when we hear Gaiseric's tale), then that makes it impossible for 4 God Hands to be born before Gaiseric's kingdom, beacuse then if they were the 4 angels that destroyed it, they went on eclipse break for 1000 years, then had Femto born, witch would have been mentioned. Now I understand the timeline!!
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Walter said:That's not a crazy idea, and in fact, was the most popular theory on the subject for a long time. But it has since been disproven. The 4 Kings of the World are more likely to have destroyed the kingdom. Ask Schierke.
Manga. Read it.
Walter said:You two are counting on there being a previous five God Hand, BEFORE Gaiseric's age. I strongly doubt it, and I wish I could find the famed interview where Miura supposedly has said: "Void is the first God Hand" ... but I can't...