brinco said:didn't Zodd have just one horn? Because in the picture it looks like it has two.
Oh, well then allow meFrom that point on the speculations can go in every direction,
As you say, we certainly don't know the reasoning yet, but my first impression was that it may have something to do with what Schierke said regarding the Ocean's effect on magic. I think Griffith may have been drawn there against his will. Like Aaz mentioned, I'd still like to think of them as two seperate personalities, and I think that fits the bill thus far. I don't think Griffith is masquerading as the Child, rather the Child is using Griffith's body while it's able to. Obviously, it likely has a lot to do with Guts' and Casca's proximity to him at the time in conjunction with the Ocean AND the full moon.the child could have taken control of Griffith, or Griffith could have consciously done it, maybe out of guilt, maybe because he felt like being a family, etc.
That's the power of a SUPERIOR BEING, another clue that fits. I wonder if that same kanji for the episode title has been used for Griffith before...That's the power of a member of the God Hand.
Seriously... how could we all miss an ENTIRE page for THIS long?!...I just love it. So logical and obvious too, right under our noses all along. All it takes is to pay attention, let this be a lesson to everybody.
Wow, are you serious? That's all you got out of this new information?brinco said:That's quite a theory, Aaz. Maybe this is silly, but didn't Zodd have just one horn? Because in the picture it looks like it has two.
Walter said:Jesus what an implication... This is HUGE! Great find, Aaz. I'm amazed that it fits in with all the evidence too. Well, it certainly solidifies several mysteries regarding Griffith's connection with the Child, and our initial inklings that the Demon Child and it are related.
Walter said:I think Griffith may have been drawn there against his will. Like Aaz mentioned, I'd still like to think of them as two seperate personalities, and I think that fits the bill thus far.
Walter said:I wonder if Griffith retains his memories while in this state, or if they're lost. If so, he'd have an integral understanding of Guts' current condition. Furthermore, that possibility would allow plots in the future to incorporate a one-way, indirect conversation between Guts and Griffith, without Guts frothing at the mouth.
Walter said:That's the power of a SUPERIOR BEING, another clue that fits. I wonder if that same kanji for the episode title has been used for Griffith before...
brinco said:I meant the hill picture.
Walter said:Wow, are you serious? That's all you got out of this new information?
Rhombaad said:perhaps Griffith is overcome by the Moonlight Child whenever the moon is full, transforming into what Casca and Guts' child might have been like if he was left untainted by Femto.
Wow, yeah... Poor Casca. It'll be like being divorced and having joint custody...Aazealh said:Yeah, whether he knows what's happening or just remembers being at one place and awakes at another, with a blank in-between. This really opens a lot of new possibilities for the development of their relationship. And man, when Casca's going to wake up... I can't even imagine.
Argh, we don't know Jan Anin yet? Damn you Miura... (just looked at the katakana... maybe it's Jananin with no spaces?)Yeah, and guess what? We still haven't found what "Jan Anin" means yet. Maybe it's some obscure crypted dialect for "Griffith" or "The Hawk" or something ("God Hand?"). At this point it'd almost seem natural to me.
Aazealh said:It's interesting to note that he came on Zodd's back and not alone too, and it means that Zodd knows. What an incredibly dangerous and powerful information. Does this mean the Skull Knight knows too? He disappeared right beforeGriffiththe Child came up after all.
Yeah, it's yet another reason for Guts to forget his hatred. But, while he's certainly developed as a character since volume 14, he had no trouble stomping on his own child then . Then again, he wasn't fully grasping the situation at the time. Anyway, I still think the major conflict will be with Casca, not Guts.Rhombaad said:Plus, how is Guts going to feel once (if?) it's revealed to him? Will he be able to kill Griffith knowing that (and this is still just speculation) the untainted form of his child still exists inside the Hawk? The plot thickens...
Walter said:This new revelation finally gives some form to Skully's words "What you wish for may not be what she wishes for..."
Walter said:This new revelation finally gives some form to Skully's words "What you wish for may not be what she wishes for..."
Yeah, after some SERIOUS research (google XD), JananiAazealh said:Well, according (mostly) to my instinct Jananin is Sanskrit for "newborn." So it refers to the fact the Child is obvious young, but also to Femto's incarnation. Of course that's not confirmed at all.
I don't think it's that hard to understand. Zodd serves Griffith, who just happens to have a bit of a multiple-personality disorder. They're the same flesh though, and still his master, ultimately.Proj2501 said:Maybe the child controls Zodd due to his higher being status. It just seems very odd for me. Even if he sees the Moonlight child helping Guts and Co., helping Guts is going against Griffith....!!!!
Proj2501 said:the panel - the one that's supposed to be Zodd-, something just bothers me about it. I don't kno, it could be, but it's a stretch...at least in my mind at this moment. I'll try and let it stew for awhile.
Proj2501 said:Now about Zodd, he only cares about serving Griffith at this point. Agreed?
Proj2501 said:So does that mean, he and Griffith are talking for a moment the BOOM, he transforms becomes the moonchild. Wouldn't Zodd point, look around for a moment, and ask "Who the hell are you?!" Then what? Maybe the child controls Zodd due to his higher being status. It just seems very odd for me.
Walter said:Still, we won't know for sure until someone more qualified with the word comes along and teaches us...
Proj2501 said:the panel - the one that's supposed to be Zodd-, something just bothers me about it. I don't kno, it could be, but it's a stretch...at least in my mind at this moment.