Rhombaad said:I'm predicting Rakshas will be the first to go (sorry Handsome ). My guess is we'll see his apostle form for the first time during said final battle, too.
Aazealh said:Really? Interesting. Since we know so little of him, I don't really expect him to be the first. But it makes sense in a way, and it wouldn't be unprecedented (I mean I've already seen similar things in other stories). Still, I'd be sad if we didn't get to see more of him than just one fight.
Th3Branded0ne said:I just thought he might not have such luck and if Sonia keeps riding with him, might interrupt him from battle and find his demise.
Kalie Ma said:where we already know Grunbeld's past, apostle form, motivations, on and on...
m said:I voted for Irvine because as far as I remember he only fights from a distance and I'm not sure how he would do on close combat. He's always been a hunter but for some reason I'm under the impression that he seems to rely on being furtive and that may not be very effective fighting Guts, specially if there is somebody in his party with the ability to detect him even if he's hiding.
Rhombaad said:The question is, would Guts or any of the group be able to get within close combat range before getting hairrowed.
m said:What if in addition of having a good fighter in close combat and somebody capable to detect somebody who's hiding, they had somebody who could deflect projectiles somehow, like with wind?
Aazealh said:The problem is that Irvine can shoot arrows from far, far away. And that he shoots many at once. Powerfully enough to decapitate armored soldiers. So I don't think it'll be as simple as Serpico deflecting them with his cloak, though I'm sure his control over the wind will help one way or another.
Aazealh said:The problem is that Irvine can shoot arrows from far, far away. And that he shoots many at once. Powerfully enough to decapitate armored soldiers. So I don't think it'll be as simple as Serpico deflecting them with his cloak, though I'm sure his control over the wind will help one way or another.
m said:Oddly enough, I wasn't thinking about his cloak but his sword, which as you know is capable of cutting through trolls at a distance. My crazy idea was having him swinging his sword to stop whatever Irvine throws at the group. I was thinking that one swing could perhaps be able to destroy more than one projectile at once.
I'd say things are setting up to be the opposite actually. After the war, peace will probably cause Griffith's forces to spread out to get some autonomy amongst themselves. And at that point, Guts and Co. would hunt them down one by onesmoke said:I'm having a hard time picturing a scenario where they would be seperated and dying off (given the storyline as it stands now).
Walter said:I'd say things are setting up to be the opposite actually. After the war, peace will probably cause Griffith's forces to spread out to get some autonomy amongst themselves. And at that point, Guts and Co. would hunt them down one by one
But I think it's your specific portrayal here that's cheesy and unoriginal. You must not have a very vivid imagination if you think it has to play out "just like" a shounen series. I just said that I think at some point, Guts and Co. would begin seeking out apostles, and a good way to go about that is to try to take them out one by one. Anyway, I'm not completely sold on the idea either, which is why i didn't expound on it further. It's just a thought, but it's not without precedent. See below...It wouldn't make sense because these apostles are very strong for sure and they have lived for many more years than humans would. They have obtained a sense of awareness and they cannot be tricked by Guts' group and die by un-original "hunt for the heads of the lieutenants 'till Zodd" (because he's most likely the strongest apostle aside the God Hands).
So volumes 1-3; 14-17 are too shounen as well, then? You know, when Guts was hunting apostles down one by one?This isn't how Miura has brought up any epic battles or in terms of plotline, Berserk isn't the "usual shounen" manga-type, this is a serious adult seinen, this isn't Naruto/Bleach.
I was tryin' to say that it won't be played out as a shounen series, there will be no "hunt" of such strong apostles, they are the beasts, they are the one tracking. Sorry if I didn't made myself clear enough about this...Walter said:But I think it's your specific portrayal here that's cheesy and unoriginal. You must not have a very vivid imagination if you think it has to play out "just like" a shounen series.
These apostles somehow knew they were being tracked at one point and they were careless, kept underestimating Guts and they are clearly not strong/intelligent as the lieutenants of the Band of the Hawk.So volumes 1-3; 14-17 are too shounen as well, then? You know, when Guts was hunting apostles down one by one?
Again, you seem to be forgetting things that have already happened... Where was Grunbeld's superior strength and intelligence when he underestimated Guts and nearly got himself killed?Jarome said:These apostles somehow knew they were being tracked at one point and they were careless, kept underestimating Guts and they are clearly not strong/intelligent as the lieutenants of the Band of the Hawk.