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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #100 on: April 21, 2010, 12:14:20 PM »
That one was basically Lost in manga form

Agreed, though I found it more bearable than Lost since I got easily attached to the characters. Pluto is no exception to his talent of destroying the plot completely. Great start, terrible conclusion. But in this case, since it's so small, the impact isn't so strong (plus, I had read 20th Century Boys before, so it didn't come as a surprise).


I've been watching The Shield. Third season now.

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #101 on: April 21, 2010, 01:23:31 PM »
I just started watching Modern Family. It's good to see Ed O'Neill back on television. :guts:

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #102 on: April 21, 2010, 08:14:11 PM »
Pluto is no exception to his talent of destroying the plot completely. Great start, terrible conclusion.

Excuse me but how exactly was it terrible? It's perfectly in line with Tezuka's own works, which I'm sure is what Urasawa was going for.

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« Reply #103 on: April 21, 2010, 08:34:00 PM »
Excuse me but how exactly was it terrible? It's perfectly in line with Tezuka's own works, which I'm sure is what Urasawa was going for.

It may have been in line with Tezuka's works, but not with the rest of Pluto itself. The change of focus was too sudden; from a mistery plot to the epic fight against hate we see in the last episodes. The themes he focused on in the end may have been there since the beginning (and we all expected it), but not nearly as strong as they appear after Gesicht's death. Since he was going for that, he should have prepared us sooner instead of telling a completely dark, bitter story full of terrible, sad deaths and then just turn it around with a heart-warming life message. It seemed out of place to me.

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« Reply #104 on: April 21, 2010, 08:38:55 PM »
You guys actually liked Battlestar Galactica that much? It was entertaining enough, but it could've become one of the best Sci-Fi shows in history with some actual planning ahead and thought. I could barely stand the last two season of it.

They came up with a load of cool ideas, but just suddenly plopped them in as they went along, and had no idea where to go with them, by the writers own admission. They jumped the shark over and over and over again as the series went on, and relied on Deus Ex Machina ever more heavily, the latter serving as pathetic resolutions to the former as well.

And now LOST is going in that direction as well. Sigh.

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #105 on: April 21, 2010, 08:50:15 PM »
It may have been in line with Tezuka's works, but not with the rest of Pluto itself.

That is, in your humble opinion. I didn't have a problem with the story's conclusion, personally.

The change of focus was too sudden; from a mistery plot to the epic fight against hate we see in the last episodes. The themes he focused on in the end may have been there since the beginning (and we all expected it), but not nearly as strong as they appear after Gesicht's death. Since he was going for that, he should have prepared us sooner instead of telling a completely dark, bitter story full of terrible, sad deaths and then just turn it around with a heart-warming life message. It seemed out of place to me.

I thought it came about gradually enough myself, with Atom keeping a limited role until the end. And you're aware that Pluto is essentially a remake of the "Greatest Robot on Earth" story arc from the original Tetsuwan Atom series, right? I mean there's a limit to how much it could deviate from the original and I think Urasawa did a great job on that front. And it's not like the series has a Hollywoodian Happy Ending™ either: a lot of people die, Pluto dies, Bora dies, and even the true mastermind bad guy dies as well. It just has a positive outlook, which is again really what you should expect out of an Atom/Astro Boy story. I don't see what's out of place.

You guys actually liked Battlestar Galactica that much? It was entertaining enough, but it could've become one of the best Sci-Fi shows in history with some actual planning ahead and thought. I could barely stand the last two season of it.

No, I was also disappointed by BSG. It had a lot of potential but didn't manage to live up to it. Comparing it to Lost is mean, though.

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« Reply #106 on: April 21, 2010, 09:19:32 PM »
That is, in your humble opinion. I didn't have a problem with the story's conclusion, personally.

Yup, in my humble opinion, like the rest of the post. :iva:

I thought it came about gradually enough myself, with Atom keeping a limited role until the end. And you're aware that Pluto is essentially a remake of the "Greatest Robot on Earth" story arc from the original Tetsuwan Atom series, right? I mean there's a limit to how much it could deviate from the original and I think Urasawa did a great job on that front. And it's not like the series has a Hollywoodian Happy Ending™ either: a lot of people die, Pluto dies, Bora dies, and even the true mastermind bad guy dies as well. It just has a positive outlook, which is again really what you should expect out of an Atom/Astro Boy story. I don't see what's out of place.

Yeah I understand about it being a remake, and I didn't think it was a ridiculous, cheap happy ending either (I wasn't making fun of it when I mentioned "heart-warming life message"), but I felt the overall sad atmosphere that he created for the whole series made the themes surrounding the conclusion appear out of place, even if I knew they would show up since the beginning.

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #107 on: April 21, 2010, 09:41:14 PM »
I felt the overall sad atmosphere that he created for the whole series made the themes surrounding the conclusion appear out of place, even if I knew they would show up since the beginning.

Well what can I say, what you're saying seems pretty contradictory to me. And from the beginning to the end, you have both negative and positive elements in the story, from Brando's family and his friendly rivalry to Heracles, to North #2's little story with the composer and so on. Even Uran meeting with Pluto and seeing the good in him. It's only made sad and dark because the characters die one after another, but short of letting the catastrophe happen in the end there was obviously going to be a point where it'd stop. And you mentioned that it gets too "happy" after Gesicht's death, but Epsilon's death after that is one of the most tragic ones out of the whole story, and at that point it's already almost over. The most emotional moments after that, like Gesicht's adoption of Robita, are bittersweet because we know what's happened since. Then the story ends on Atom reminiscing over the dead, which I think is very fitting.

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #108 on: April 25, 2010, 03:40:52 AM »
'Finally watched the first episode of Yojôhan Shinwa Taikei / The Tatami Galaxy, and I think it's safe to recommend the series.

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #109 on: April 25, 2010, 04:15:00 AM »
'Finally watched the first episode of Yojôhan Shinwa Taikei / The Tatami Galaxy, and I think it's safe to recommend the series.
Ah, I haven't got a chance to watch that just yet, did you check out House of Five Leaves as well? I liked the first episode of that even if the fight scene was a bit horribly animated... still need to watch the second one.

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #110 on: April 25, 2010, 08:27:58 AM »
I've started to watch Spartacus. It's okay so far, there's far to much nudity in the show.
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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #111 on: April 25, 2010, 03:49:53 PM »
there's never too much nudity in any show.
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« Reply #112 on: May 02, 2010, 11:51:41 AM »
Currently watching some anime (which I haven't done in quite some time).
"Le chevalier D'Eon" which is absolutely incredible. A lot of historical inaccuracies [although it doesn't really strive for that, since it incorporates lots of supernatural elements] doesn't change the fact that it's a fantastic series full of political intrigue, mystery, great animation, a rather unique protagonist, tragic characters that you love and hate and a well written story overall. Highly recommend this one.

I've also been watching "Shigurui: Death Frenzy" which is similarly brilliant. Not finished that one yet, but so far it is, as one Amazon reviewer put it, "Poetic Nihilism".

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #113 on: May 02, 2010, 07:23:57 PM »
Recently finished watching Sasuke (Ninja Warrior)and boy was it a nail-biting competition this year. Nagano, returning champion, getting crowned Mr. Ninja Warrior and making it to the final stage again(!) along with a newcomer! It was really great to see the veterans back in their realm alongside the younger generation. I was a bit put-off that the Americans didn't compete this year, they seemed to mesh with the Japanese competitors really well and it made for more entertainment. Hopefully they'll be back, but I get a feeling that may have just been a stunt G4 pulled to bring in more viewers.

Currently watching my good ol' HBO series: Treme and The Pacific. Really diggin' Treme. Highly suggest that one.

Guilty pleasures: Top Chef Masters and Party Down.

There's also LOST, of course... ugh.

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #114 on: May 07, 2010, 10:22:08 PM »
'Finally watched the first episode of Yojôhan Shinwa Taikei / The Tatami Galaxy, and I think it's safe to recommend the series.
I've been watching this now as it airs. I really like it so far, and I wasn't expecting the story structure really. Some people have speculated about a Fight Club ending with Ozu. I'm not sure if anybody talking about it is caught up on the novel though. The Opening and Ending are both really nice too. :guts:

I've also been following Arakawa Under the Bridge, House of Five Leaves, and Rainbow - Nisha Rokubou no Shichinin
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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #115 on: June 02, 2010, 04:30:53 AM »
http://www.amazon.com/Studio-Ghibli-Movie-Collection/dp/B0016RO6X8

Studio Ghibli Movie Collection

Absolutely amazing, as I'm sure any fan of Miyazaki can imagine. About to finish Gedo Senki, which has been an amazing medieval fantasy so far. To be honest, after I got into Berserk, I absolutely abandoned all manga/anime, knowing nothing could compare. But Studio Ghibli is like my last hurrah, and Gedo Senki just happens to sorta fit into the genre. Highly recommended.

Check it out.  :griffnotevil:

EDIT: I should probably note, Gedo Senki is actually done by Hayao Miyazaki's son, so it doesn't have nearly as much of that "friendly-lovey-sappy-awesome" feel to it that most expect. It's a little darker and more .... erm, sad, than his movies. I don't imagine Berserk fans having a problem with that though!

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #116 on: June 07, 2010, 05:42:57 AM »
Just watched the latest Breaking Bad tonight. Needless to say, I am pumped for the season finale next week. Holy living crap.

That ending.

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #117 on: June 07, 2010, 02:09:00 PM »
New season of Entourage starts soon! :guts: Can't wait  :guts: Though I'll admit, from the previews it doesn't look to be all that amazing.

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #118 on: June 07, 2010, 02:35:12 PM »
Just watched the latest Breaking Bad tonight. Needless to say, I am pumped for the season finale next week. Holy living crap.

That ending.
I watched the first season of Breaking Bad, and it didn't hook me. Should I give it another shot, or if I haven't been hooked by now, should I just give up?
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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #119 on: June 07, 2010, 02:43:40 PM »
I watched the first season of Breaking Bad, and it didn't hook me. Should I give it another shot, or if I haven't been hooked by now, should I just give up?
If you got time, sure! I'd at least check out the beginning of season 2 to see how the Tuco story wraps up...

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #120 on: June 07, 2010, 05:39:53 PM »
Just picked up The Wire complete collection.

We burned through the first season over the weekend and man.... great show so far. What a depressing ending to the first season. Yeesh. The show doesn't pull any punches that's for sure.

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #121 on: June 07, 2010, 05:51:03 PM »
To me, nothing tops The Wire. It's an amazing show in every tiny way.
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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #122 on: June 07, 2010, 07:31:40 PM »
Who else is excited for the new season of Futurama?

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« Reply #123 on: June 07, 2010, 07:44:50 PM »
Catching up on season 3 of Burn Notice.

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Re: What are you watching? (television thread)
« Reply #124 on: June 09, 2010, 07:07:25 AM »
Who else is excited for the new season of Futurama?
I certainly am. The 3 movies were fantastic, but it's been a long, long time since we've been treated to some episodic goodness.