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Title: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: IncantatioN on April 23, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
They've asked not to post a picture on a forum as yet since it may go through changes but you can preview it on their website - http://www.art-of-war.co.jp/english/index.php

Details so far:

*Estimated Pre-order Starting Date: in the middle or later May
*Size: 1/6 scale (W33cm x D38cm x H25cm including sword and base *size may change. )
*Price: not decided yet
*Limited Number: not decided yet
*Other Information: different attachments for 2 versions this time.

Another Guts statue but at least it's a different pose, well sort of, it'll be interesting to put it next to the 20th Anniversary. Let's hope they do the face justice. For price, you think 90,000 Yen, like the 20th?
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: andrewdsz on April 23, 2014, 11:29:51 AM
finally something original for the right size...! Guts Looking good but still have to see the final results. I have way too many guts (5) so this will be a no go for me.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: sensui on April 23, 2014, 03:10:26 PM
Interested.......Will have to see how this one turns out....not exactly sure I approve of the scene though.....didn't really think that move is all that.  But it's a 1/6 Guts so it'll be hard to pass.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: krzykoopa on April 23, 2014, 05:55:26 PM
Thanks for the info/link Incantation
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: hubalo on April 27, 2014, 02:57:02 AM
can anyone post the image of the manga , i dont remember that scene :???:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: krzykoopa on April 27, 2014, 04:13:31 AM
can anyone post the image of the manga , i dont remember that scene :???:

 :magni:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Aazealh on April 27, 2014, 09:29:11 AM
can anyone post the image of the manga , i dont remember that scene :???:

You could just check it in your volumes. The first time it happens is near the end of volume 15, when Guts is fighting Rochine's guardians. It was also shown more recently, at the end volume 35.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: RabidChimera on April 28, 2014, 02:18:21 AM
Looks like it should be a pretty awesome statue i want to say a yes to it but i shudder to think what the price will be...  :sad:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Liad on May 08, 2014, 05:09:00 PM
I have thought about this one for a while, and the only way they could do the spinning canon slice properly is to use clear resin to simulate the spin. there are some statues that use this to great effect, like the Classic Thor Action Statue by Bowen:

(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/assets/products/901473-thor/lg/901473-thor-001.jpg)


If they could get some black mist/fog to coincide with the clear resin it could look amazing.  Other than that, I don't understand how they can simulate the spinning canon slice with a static statue :/

Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: amano on May 17, 2014, 09:51:43 AM
Product Information

Size: approx.W33cm x D38cm x H25cm (sword and base included)

Estimated Delivery Date: August – September, 2014

Editions:

Limited version Ⅰ: 88 pieces with Bonus attached

Limited version Ⅱ: 44 pieces without Bonus

Bonus: Human Puck mini figure
Size: approx. 11cm (H)

Unit Price (exclude shipping and handling cost)

Limited version Ⅰ: 100,000 JPY ($984/ €718)

Limited version Ⅱ: 95,000 JPY ($936/ €683)

 

▲Installment Plan For Limited version Ⅰ

First Payment: 35,000 JPY in 7 days after pre-order

Second Payment: 35,000 JPY in 37 days after pre-order

Third Payment: 30,000 JPY in 67 days after pre-order

Forth Payment: shipping cost around the late August

★We are not able to offer other installment plans this time. ★

 

▲Installment Plan For Limited version Ⅱ

First Payment: 35,000 JPY in 7 days after pre-order

Second Payment: 30,000 JPY in 37 days after pre-order

Third Payment: 30,000 JPY in 67 days after pre-order

Forth Payment: shipping cost around the late August

★We are not able to offer other installment plans this time. ★

 

The Spinning Cannon Slice is a combined movement of a blow of Guts’ sword Dragon Slayer and the Cannon that bears on his left arm.

The sculpture refers to the scene where Guts uses this skill against the tentacle monsters of the phantom ship in volume 35 of the comic.

The Dragon Slayer blade is as much as about 26.5 cm and makes the statue more power visually.

With excellent dynamic modeling work on the deck simulated base, the fluttering cloak and sword, rotating motion in the entire molding is recreated.

 

Pre-order will start on May 24th, 12:00 JPY.

We waiting for your pre-orders!


Well Well looks very good but a bit pricey
http://www.art-of-war.co.jp/index.php cool picture with slicing effect on the sword :)
Wait some more days to have more pics on their youtube page. (360° pics)

I like the mini figure attachement :)
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Mangetsu on May 17, 2014, 10:45:36 AM
omg the price  :isidro:


but damn, this statue looks amazing, finally an Guts with an good Head Sculpt from Art of war
I don't thinck that they captured this scene good at all
It doesnt looks like Guts spinning, some special effects for thee cannon , like Liad said would have been better
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: IncantatioN on May 17, 2014, 11:07:28 AM
Not sure why anyone expected spinning action/ sword effect in a different way because none of the statues released by AOW in the past has that sort of thing, even with the 1/6 or 20th Anniversary. The first picture in AOW's email looked pretty neat with the sword looking blurred, giving the impression it's in motion. Face looks akin to the 1/6.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Aazealh on May 17, 2014, 11:20:43 AM
finally an Guts with an good Head Sculpt from Art of war

I don't find it particularly good.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: RanShi on May 17, 2014, 11:50:01 AM
The price, seriously...

You could get 3 Black Swordsman Figmas for that price.. at the increased price they're at right now.
And hit the cannon pose with one of them. It's even got the lowered down hand for shooting the cannon.
Or pose it however you wanna whenever you wanna change it in a matter of minutes................
Another 2-handing the dragonslayer... another one humping a Casca figma that you'll buy aswell ... another one slashing at the Griffith Figma that you'll also buy....
Go out for a movie, dinner, AND buy all the Berserk volumes on top of that and land at the same price.

*hoping everyone boycotts AoW to the point where they're forced to at least have reasonable prices like the Figmas, or do smaller high quality figures like the Figmas and not like the crappy ones they've done previously (but the Zodd and Skull Knight Yamato Art of Wars are awesome, I admit!*
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: IncantatioN on May 17, 2014, 12:12:21 PM
I don't find it particularly good.

It's why I have the head with the helmet on the 1/6.

The price, seriously...

You could get 3 Black Swordsman Figmas for that price.. at the increased price they're at right now.
And hit the cannon pose with one of them. It's even got the lowered down hand for shooting the cannon.
Or pose it however you wanna whenever you wanna change it in a matter of minutes................
Another 2-handing the dragonslayer... another one humping a Casca figma that you'll buy aswell ... another one slashing at the Griffith Figma that you'll also buy....
Go out for a movie, dinner, AND buy all the Berserk volumes on top of that and land at the same price.

*hoping everyone boycotts AoW to the point where they're forced to at least have reasonable prices like the Figmas, or do smaller high quality figures like the Figmas and not like the crappy ones they've done previously (but the Zodd and Skull Knight Yamato Art of Wars are awesome, I admit!*

A conscious collective effort to stop buying AOW's products based on price or the build (problems with face or sculpt, etc.) is going to be hard because there are die-hard collectors and with AOW limiting their numbers to a 100 (on average), I think they naturally cater to them. Plus the last 2 statues released are 6 months apart and both in the $1000 range, a new collector would be hesitant to pick something that expensive.

I want to see more of the statue, on the fence on buying this.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: andrewdsz on May 17, 2014, 12:21:17 PM
I'm not in.  Not particularly interested on a black swords man....the base sucks,suck ass compare to tentacle ship.... and I think the guts 2010 1/6 is far better.

Also the berserk armor lower wolf jaw looks awfully big and out of place to me.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Mangetsu on May 17, 2014, 12:39:21 PM
I don't find it particularly good.

it is good for AOW standarts imo
better then their previous head sculpts

the best head sculpt from what ive seen is the headlong Bust of Guts
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Berserker78 on May 17, 2014, 02:40:46 PM
Another Guts...without me and i think it's too expansive,they go round and round in circles;they should think to make a diorama or a Casca statue,she is under represented in their productions :???:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Zoddit on May 17, 2014, 04:05:53 PM
there's no need of trying to denigrate this statue, or compare it with others I own, only because I'm not buying it...

(It's a very nice statue and sure it will be even more in person, yet for the price they ask I'd like too see more care on the head sculpt. In this case it is fundamental, we have no other options.)
 
...but more simply, I can't afford it at the moment or maybe it's more correct to say that I can't spend another 100k+ JPY for a statue so soon after The Tentacle Ship. I'd rather save for a 25th anniversary statue... if there will be one.  :carcus:

(http://i.imgur.com/ObVp02p.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/WyF6pt6.jpg)

Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: andrewdsz on May 17, 2014, 04:27:03 PM
the thing about guts is, we have way too many guts in the town....A 1/6 casca or femto or skull knight or even zodd will do much better on selling department and if those happens I'm dropping my money in. they just released 4 versions of black swordsman in 1/10th scale and that to me is ridiculous. If they drop the price by half and produce 4 times more quantities I believe AOW will have a better future.  This piece should be 60000yen not 100000.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Liad on May 17, 2014, 04:28:09 PM
Not buying this one. I'm totally on the boycott train. If they're not gonna bother fixing their prices, then I'd rather they go bankrupt. Noone should have to be forced to pay blood money to own a couple of decent Berserk statues (and most of the AoW statues are utter trash).   It's actually cheaper to commission statues from professionals. You'll get exactly what you want, and you'll save hundreds of dollars.

Headlong has made a couple of Berserk statues, and they are A) practically free compared to AoW pricing , and B ) Perfect representations of the characters, faces are spot on.


Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Sankari on May 17, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
With all due respect to those who are going to get it - After all this time, and they still can't get an accurate head sculpt.
The price tag is preposterous. The little "bonus" for 5000 ien, is also ridiculous , for the quality and scale.

I hope that one day people seriously start giving "feedback" that is - not buying. So that they have to change their "sales strategy". And they shouldn't even bother with the whole - oh its limited to 100 or so. Because they'll probably release 3 or 4 repaints
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: krzykoopa on May 18, 2014, 05:11:50 AM
This statue... I can't put my finger on it, I am just not pleased. I love the tentacle ship and was excited for it but this one specifically doesn't temp me. When I got the email I had an oh yeah! excitement feeling but when I seen the pose and read the description I kind of scratched my head. I see a lot of negativity. Is anyone happy with this piece ?
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Stardustgatzu on May 18, 2014, 09:40:44 AM
I won t take this one! IMO, the pose is too weird... And the face isn t good for sure!
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: DirectDK on May 19, 2014, 05:31:40 PM
I'm still holding out to see more detailed shots, but I agree with most of the sentiments here, that this piece didn't turn out as well as we had hoped.  The face, from what it seems, only looks like a SLIGHT improvement from the previous 1/6 Guts, but it's not nearly good enough.  AOW just doesn't get it.  LIKENESS LIKENESS LIKENESS.  It shouldn't be that much to ask...

As for the pose, I like the idea of it, but the execution looks a little off from certain angles.  Again, I'll wait to see more pics...

Overall... all I have to say is... le sigh~~~
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: sensui on May 19, 2014, 08:09:29 PM
I own basically every Guts sculpt (it's basically all I buy) from AOW and I would of probably bought this if the price wasn't 100,000 yen.....for that kind of price I can't have any doubts.  Like the rest of you the face brings up immediate concerns but that pose is just really strange.  If no one told you it's the spinning hand cannon, you would just think wow that is a weird looking pose.  Probably pass @ this pt.....saddens me to say.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Mangetsu on May 19, 2014, 08:32:34 PM
I own basically every Guts sculpt (it's basically all I buy) from AOW and I would of probably bought this if the price wasn't 100,000 yen.....for that kind of price I can't have any doubts.  Like the rest of you the face brings up immediate concerns but that pose is just really strange.  If no one told you it's the spinning hand cannon, you would just think wow that is a weird looking pose.  Probably pass @ this pt.....saddens me to say.

the statue is good imo but they really went overboard with this price ,this is just insane
and i completely agree with you on the pose
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: ZODDOII on May 20, 2014, 08:02:55 AM
Hand cannon has a lot of meaning for Berserk, and The Spinning Cannon Slice is one Mark of Berserk, so go for it~ Forget the price  :troll: :troll: :magni:

Seriously i like AOW made this one,The pose is not so bad, but the face just same Guts20101/6 and Tentacle Ship,  I can't believe it......  :casca:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Mangetsu on May 20, 2014, 12:15:43 PM
Video is up, with the exclusive puck figurine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4FTsLMDLjE&list=UUUS7jCV2-cDqO4x3poNqg5A&index=1
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Sankari on May 20, 2014, 01:09:57 PM
Maybe its not even worth the effort, but I was thinking of sending AoW an email , expressing ( with all due respect) my opinion about this piece and their current practices.

Maybe if everyone did that. Their items are so limited , that if a reasonable number of people said something, they might notice that they're failing hard and change course.

The head sculpt, price and pose are so half-baked.
For a 1/6 piece, there is no real likeness , the pose is awkward, and the price is way way overblown out of proportions.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Mangetsu on May 20, 2014, 01:12:13 PM
by the way

Special Discount:

1,000 JPY Off for Pre-orders and The First Payment Before May 31st!


Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: IncantatioN on May 20, 2014, 01:41:35 PM
by the way

Special Discount:

1,000 JPY Off for Pre-orders and The First Payment Before May 31st!

Massive discount of 1% ... :daiba:

Anyone on here that's going to pre-order this? Maiku?
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Akebobo on May 20, 2014, 02:00:58 PM
I'm in.  I don't have a 1/6th scale, and this is the first time the cannon arm is really represented.  I don't have a problem with this face sculpt, and the brand/seal on the back of his neck is a nice touch. 
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Zoddit on May 20, 2014, 04:23:48 PM
Maybe its not even worth the effort, but I was thinking of sending AoW an email , expressing ( with all due respect) my opinion about this piece and their current practices.

Maybe if everyone did that. Their items are so limited , that if a reasonable number of people said something, they might notice that they're failing hard and change course.


[from AoW homepage]
(http://i.imgur.com/KdkYWYU.jpg)

...they will also continue to find ways to improve the diversification of their products...!!? :troll:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: hubalo on May 20, 2014, 04:33:00 PM
i like the statue, i dont see why you say the pose is weird, obiusly the price is always worng, but i think thats never gonna change
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Aazealh on May 20, 2014, 05:13:38 PM
[from AoW homepage]
http://i.imgur.com/KdkYWYU.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/KdkYWYU.jpg)

They've been saying they're sorry and trying their hardest for years now, since the very beginning in fact. The bottom line is that prices keep going higher and higher. Same thing I've always said, but the only way to change the status quo is for the die hard customers to stop buying. Even if AOW sunk as a result, would it be so terrible for Berserk fans? It would open up the franchise to other companies, breathing in some much needed fresh air.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Mangetsu on May 20, 2014, 05:43:16 PM
[from AoW homepage]
(http://i.imgur.com/KdkYWYU.jpg)

...they will also continue to find ways to improve the diversification of their products...!!? :troll:

always, the same excuse....


i second that what Aaz said
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Sankari on May 20, 2014, 06:33:33 PM
They've been saying they're sorry and trying their hardest for years now, since the very beginning in fact. The bottom line is that prices keep going higher and higher. Same thing I've always said, but the only way to change the status quo is for the die hard customers to stop buying. Even if AOW sunk as a result, would it be so terrible for Berserk fans? It would open up the franchise to other companies, breathing in some much needed fresh air.

This is such a ridiculous excuse. If they can't offer decent prices, then their business model is wrong. And obviously , in the sculpting department, they've been struggling for years, and never gave us real LIKENESS in the headsculpts. These days, with so many alternatives, so many new techniques and technologies, if they want to insist in the same broken business model... I think the only option is that customers abstain from purchasing.  At this point I'd rather the Licence go to another company.

They say - low volume production. We know that its just a bait. They usually wait a while, and then re-release everything , in another paint scheme. It cheapens the whole idea.
Also, it seems the company can't keep its focus. They try to release Berserk figures, Samurai, Miniatures of japanese mountains, acrylic panels, watches...

Most likely the high prices are just to cover the overall production costs of the other lines as well. Sorry for the rant.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: andrewdsz on May 20, 2014, 07:46:28 PM
The face,the arms can cannons are bull shi t to me. What an awkward pose/position they put into this piece omg. I have no respect for this kind of work no matter the excuses.  A mega failed piece.

Not gonna buy unless it is 55000.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Zoddit on May 20, 2014, 07:58:52 PM
jokes apart I used to email to them from time to time, giving some feedback, but my words have affected as a fly against a window closed. 
honestly it's going to be tough because talking about Berserk franchise, they discarded "mass production" since 2008, from 1/6 Griffith (75,000 YEN!) statue forward. Since then, despite the prices, they sold out almost every project not in months, but in a few days/weeks. They often produce repaint because are more cost-effective than a new project and sell out them quickly, too. Why would they change their selling policy?
Manufacturing quality is always there, the rest seems mission: impossible!

The face,the arms can cannons are bull shi t to me. What an awkward pose/position they put into this piece omg. I have no respect for this kind of work no matter the excuses.  A mega failed piece.

Not gonna buy unless it is 55000.

if you think it's a mega fail, you shouldn't buy at all...
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: DirectDK on May 20, 2014, 08:19:22 PM
Maybe its not even worth the effort, but I was thinking of sending AoW an email , expressing ( with all due respect) my opinion about this piece and their current practices.

Maybe if everyone did that. Their items are so limited , that if a reasonable number of people said something, they might notice that they're failing hard and change course.

We've done that before, lots of us sending them a whole barrage of emails, but it doesn't seem to have helped any.  I still encourage you to write them though, because perhaps they THINK they've improved somehow... some way...  and they need another reality check.

Special Discount:

1,000 JPY Off for Pre-orders and The First Payment Before May 31st!

HAHAHAHAH, yeah that was pretty funny.

BTW, about the likeness... they are really just being lazy.  That or they are completely incompetent without enlisting outside help.  For their Gantz line, their Katou (http://art-of-war.co.jp/english/items/detail.php?gid=337) statue had the most horrible face ever.  No likeness whatsoever.  And that statue bombed completely.  3-4 years later they still have statues in stock.  Then their next one, their Kurono (http://art-of-war.co.jp/english/items/detail.php?gid=508) statue, they enlisted the help of the manga author and the face actually looks respectable.  Doesn't seem like they'll be able to enlist Miura for his help, but my god, how hard is it for a professional sculptor to study a face and tweak it as much as possible to match?  Pathetic.

PS I have actually emailed them before that I know sculptors that could help aid them in improving the likeness of their faces... I don't quite remember their response (I'll have to look it up), but they weren't interested.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: bains1989 on May 20, 2014, 08:54:16 PM
Everyone pointed out the obvious weak points but I just want to say what a Bland ass plain cat scratch post looking base... Like really? :/

I'm 100% sure they could have made the base so much better...  :???:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: krzykoopa on May 20, 2014, 09:24:18 PM
After really looking at the statue for a while and watching the video (which isn't a video just a compilation of still images):puck:
I figured out why it doesn't appeal to me. It does not look to me like guts is doing anything except dropping to a knee in defeat. I shown the pic to a few people who don't follow berserk and they couldn't figure out what he was doing. When I explained what it was supposed to represent they just kinda scratched their heads.
This would look exponentially better with something like gun powder exploding out of the canon or a ghosting image of the sword or on the base debris flying away from guts or all of what I said!  :beast: I am going to pass on this statue.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Sankari on May 20, 2014, 10:31:27 PM
Sent them an email, they replied  and said I could bring the answers here:

Quote
We would like to explain the questions to you and all other Berserk fans concerned here, maybe you can help us to convey the answers to them.

1. Low Quantity Problems

1) As every Berserk fan knows, several years ago Berserk was very hot in Japan and all over the world.

At that time our products sold very well and that made it possible to produce large quantity and simple action figures.

However, recent years Berserk just stopped, though the serial comic started again last month, we do not know when the next volume will come.

Under this situation, it is dangerous for us to make large quantity products,

therefore our company decided to low down the quantity and make every item qualified and limited.

2) All our statue products are hand painting items. Hundreds of hours cost to paint 1 piece.

This makes the large quantity production impossible, because the job needs skillful artisans, not just figure factory workers.

 
2. The Repainting Works

1) The original one sold well or sold bad.

-When an item selling well, we will receive many requests for a repainting.

We understand that the repainting will low down the value of the first version, so we always limited the repainting into a very small quantity.

We hope you can understand that we do this as business, if we just do 1-2 new figures in a year and do not repaint any item, how can we maintain the company.

-If an item selling bad, sometimes we will repaint it and sell as another version.

There is a quantity line for every model, so if the item cannot reach the line, we will consider to repaint it, otherwise it will be a deficit.

2) The cost for a new item is really high

We have explained this before to other Berserk fans. The sculptor need 3-5 months to finish a new model, and the factory need at least 3 months to produce.

We almost do Berserk only as our business. Therefore we cannot wait for so long to release just one new item.

During the period we need to sell other products, so we will do repainting works based on the previous models, but we always do changes and improvement to make the repainting one better.

 

3. The Copy Right of Berserk

Some customers misunderstand that we hold all the copy right of Berserk goods. But apparently we are not.

There were other companies did Berserk items, and recently Figma released Guts Casca and the god hand.

So Berserk is open for any figure company, the problem is why they do not want to do it.

We do not mind customers buy other companies’ products, we understand that they have some superiorities which our products cannot reach.

For example, the face expression, the price, etc.

We also have explained before about the face expression, the truth is if we have to do the face same with the comic, we need to change our sculptor because his personally style is hard to change. And we may also have to change our president, because he likes the faces.

This is not a joke, but maybe in the future we can find another sculptor who has skills both on molding and face expressions.

Therefore all is your choice, we do not force our customers to buy our products.

P.S. We have to remind you and all other fans that buy the items from independent sculptors without the copy right is illegal!

We have to report it to Hakusensha so please do not mention this kind of information to us again.
 
4. The Price

We do not want to explain this problem again and again, because any of our explanations will be translated as a “ridiculous excuse”.

We have no idea how to make a reasonable reason to satisfy you, so we just give up it.

But if the same thing happens to other companies, the price will also become that high, so please just remember one thing that we are not charging you with a black-heart.

If we do our products like other normal figures, that is not ART OF WAR, and we do not think we have any advantage to compete in the market.

 

From this summer, the factory which produces our products these years will be moved to another place in China.

And then we will have more chances to do some special and limited products, and maybe the price will be able to low down a little.

 

Thank you for your reading.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us at any time.

 
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: sensui on May 21, 2014, 02:32:12 AM
i like the statue, i dont see why you say the pose is weird, obiusly the price is always worng, but i think thats never gonna change

Like krzykoopa pointed out above.....unless you told someone that the statue is Guts performing the "Spinning Cannon Slice," there is no way anyone could guess what Guts is doing.  It's very awkward and contorted and exhibits no relativity to the spinning motion other than the scratch @ the base lol.  Anyhow, I'm sure there will be people buying but thank god for my wallet I won't be one this time around.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Theoden on May 21, 2014, 08:18:28 AM
Personally I like this statue, even If It seems they used some parts of the Guts 2010 statue..

I think they should go for 3D printed models.
There are many artists like me out there that can provide at least better quality head sculpt than their own; and by 3D printing a prototype and then casting it they would win. It's also faster to sculpt in 3D and easier to get details right.

Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Liad on May 21, 2014, 08:45:50 AM
Thanks for sending them an e-mail Sankari. They seem to be getting fed up with those kinds of e-mails, which is good. I am glad people are questioning their business practice.

They contradict themselves by saying that they hand paint these pieces, which takes hundreds of hours, they "don't just use figure factory workers". Later, they talk about the price and say that their production will move to ANOTHER factory in China..... So you ARE using figure factory workers then? Sheesh.  BTW this is totally normal, pretty much every statue company use china factory workers for cheap labor, and those companies are thriving. How come Art of War somehow found the most expensive chinese factory around?

This one is more interesting:
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P.S. We have to remind you and all other fans that buy the items from independent sculptors without the copy right is illegal!

The issue I have with this is  how Japan celebrates independent sculptors without the copyright, like Headlong. Sculptors can make statues of their favorite characters, and display them on dedicated statue festivals for all the world to see (while also selling off a few of their garage kits). They don't have the copyright, they just love the works, and Japan embraces that loving spirit. If they are popular enough, some distribution companies will even sell their statues for them. They promote their works by creating a friendly competition where the winner gets his statue mass-produced & sold - like the Banpresto Figure Coliseum. So AoW is pointlessly trying to be in the right, and it seems almost ignorant for a Japanese company dealing with statues to not be aware of this.

I don't know which independent sculptors you were talking about, I'm going to assume you mentioned the commission thread we have going here in AoW. This is outside of Japan, so it would technically be illegal.

Most of the other arguments AoW puts up are rather childish, so i'm not going into those.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on May 21, 2014, 09:04:24 AM
This one is more interesting:
The issue I have with this is  how Japan celebrates independent sculptors without the copyright, like Headlong. Sculptors can make statues of their favorite characters, and display them on dedicated statue festivals for all the world to see (while also selling off a few of their garage kits). They don't have the copyright, they just love the works, and Japan embraces that loving spirit.

What are you talking about ? The independent sculptors that you are talking about MUST have the copyright in order to display and sell their creations during events like Wonderfestival.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Aazealh on May 21, 2014, 09:17:20 AM
The problem with Art of War is that they're disingenuous. They're just throwing everything they can at the wall and hoping something will stick. It's the price of the yen because they have to pay in dollars (didn't they outsource to save money in the first place?), it's the fans who don't buy enough anymore, it's the series itself, because of the prepublication breaks! The problem is that for those of us who've been around since the beginning, these excuses just don't work. The prices have been going up steadily since the very beginning, and nothing will change that fact. The reason they can't give an acceptable answer for it is because there isn't one.

As for their sculptor being either incompetent or just unwilling to faithfully represent the likeness of the characters, what is there even to say? It's just amateurish. Lastly, their talk of copyright/other companies/Hakusensha seems quite misleading to me. Figma is releasing figures as a tie-in to the movies, so it's not really comparable. And the people at AoW know full-well that their foreign fans just can't waltz in Hakusensha's office and ask questions about merchandising contracts, so it's easy for them to say whatever they want. The same goes for reporting independent sculptors to Hakusensha, it's a completely hollow threat. I'd like to see it done though, I myself have a lot of illegal misuse of Hakusensha's property on the Internet to report to them, so I'd welcome the opportunity.

What are you talking about ? The independent sculptors that you are talking about MUST have the copyright in order to display and sell their creations during events like Wonderfestival.

There is a specific situation regarding festivals that involves temporary permissions for hobbyists to sell their products. It can't be compared to the licenses companies pay for.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Sankari on May 21, 2014, 10:55:18 AM
What I actually said was that for those high prices, people would go after rare event items.
The sculptor thing was what bothered me the most. So they admit it doesn't bear any likeness, but their reply " our president enjoys it" So what?
Are they selling statues to their company president only?
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Zoddit on May 21, 2014, 01:34:20 PM

They contradict themselves by saying that they hand paint these pieces, which takes hundreds of hours, they "don't just use figure factory workers". Later, they talk about the price and say that their production will move to ANOTHER factory in China..... So you ARE using figure factory workers then? Sheesh.  BTW this is totally normal, pretty much every statue company use china factory workers for cheap labor, and those companies are thriving. How come Art of War somehow found the most expensive chinese factory around?


Practically here you're attacking the only point in which I trust Art of War :guts:
of course they use chinese figure factory workers, but they are well paid handicraftsmen; I can't know how and how much this influences the final price but as a matter of fact the assembling and painting have been always extremely good, I never found a single flaw. Other, more popular, companies have often painting and/or bonding problems. I think China is not necessarily equal to cheap labor, underpaying is equal to cheap labor. 
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: IncantatioN on May 21, 2014, 01:47:48 PM
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2) The cost for a new item is really high ...

During the period we need to sell other products, so we will do repainting works based on the previous models, but we always do changes and improvement to make the repainting one better.

By the representative's own admission, AOW is saying original versions aren't as good. We see that as customers but for them to admit it like that shows their lack of effort or dedication (to get it right the first time) when it comes to releasing a product.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Armored_Berserk on May 23, 2014, 06:40:23 PM
Another guts 1/6e with  not-so-good-likeness and bad pose = easy pass.
Why they didn't make a 1/6e Femto? I'm sure everybody would buy a it.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: andrewdsz on May 24, 2014, 03:35:51 AM
Preorders are up. Grab yours if u want... ...I doubt it is gonna sell out within next two months.   :ganishka:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: bains1989 on May 27, 2014, 11:31:42 PM
Preorders are up. Grab yours if u want... ...I doubt it is gonna sell out within next two months.   :ganishka:

Yeah bros preorder is up! And you get a great 1000 yen discount for pre ordering! Take advantage of it right now or else this great  1% discount might be gone  :ganishka: :troll: :ganishka:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Sankari on May 28, 2014, 01:39:11 AM
Some stores and people on yahoo japan or ebay will still buy it to try to sell it later for more.  So for a while it might give the impression that its selling normally
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: bruhaha69 on June 08, 2014, 04:22:52 PM
Not a fan of this one.  I haven't purchased a statue from AoW for years now.  Too many excuses, no good responses to any of my emails....just constant BS and rising prices. 
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Mammon on June 08, 2014, 08:45:52 PM
I liked that part:

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We also have explained before about the face expression, the truth is if we have to do the face same with the comic, we need to change our sculptor because his personally style is hard to change. And we may also have to change our president, because he likes the faces.

This is not a joke, but maybe in the future we can find another sculptor who has skills both on molding and face expressions.

Thanks for sending that mail Sankari!
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Mangetsu on June 17, 2014, 12:43:49 PM
it is  sold out  :puck:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: andrewdsz on June 17, 2014, 01:11:42 PM
No it is not. The limited ver. One sold like 70 pieces I think. The normal ver. were not selling out at all. Due to the extreme bad selling record AOW just closed the preorder. This is not the first time they done this.  :ganishka:

Hopefully they learn... ...not to release bull S to us anymore in the future.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Mangetsu on June 17, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
No it is not. The limited ver. One sold like 70 pieces I think. The normal ver. were not selling out at all. Due to the extreme bad selling record AOW just closed the preorder. This is not the first time they done this.  :ganishka:

Hopefully they learn... ...not to release bull S to us anymore in the future.

The thing, is it listed as sold out when i open the page, but probably it is an little mistake with my browser or something like that


Edit: hahahaahhaah shit i just read your post again and i just noticed that i wrote conmplete bs haha
my excuse is that i had a  really long day at school


but yeah do they list it again later on ? but yeah hopefully they finally learned their lesson
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: hubalo on June 17, 2014, 08:35:50 PM
No it is not. The limited ver. One sold like 70 pieces I think. The normal ver. were not selling out at all. Due to the extreme bad selling record AOW just closed the preorder. This is not the first time they done this.  :ganishka:

Hopefully they learn... ...not to release bull S to us anymore in the future.


what happens when they dont sell all their statues, do they still release it, or do they return the money of the preorders?
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Sankari on June 18, 2014, 01:16:58 AM
No it is not. The limited ver. One sold like 70 pieces I think. The normal ver. were not selling out at all. Due to the extreme bad selling record AOW just closed the preorder. This is not the first time they done this.  :ganishka:

Hopefully they learn... ...not to release bull S to us anymore in the future.

I hope so too.I wish they'd learn from this.

I thought it was the case, of not selling out, because every once in a while they get a bunch of old releases and put them up for sale again. Just saw SK on sale on their website, so I think they're just holding them and trying to create more hype for later.

I liked that part:

Thanks for sending that mail Sankari!

I think quite a few of us already sent them feedback, but their policy is to always just be stubborn and never listen to the buyers. I was surprised they decided to answer.
To me it was mostly an admission that they're not really willing to change or improve.

What was mostly out of point, is that they think that because people aren't really buying their products, it must mean that Berserk isn't "in fashion" anymore. I feel that theres a whole lot of people who love this series, but either aren't satisfied, or not willing to pay so much for AoW products.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Aazealh on June 18, 2014, 05:45:48 AM
What was mostly out of point, is that they think that because people aren't really buying their products, it must mean that Berserk isn't "in fashion" anymore. I feel that theres a whole lot of people who love this series, but either aren't satisfied, or not willing to pay so much for AoW products.

Indeed.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: andrewdsz on June 18, 2014, 08:37:12 AM
what really happened was that when they closed their preorder the previous claimed 44 pieces normal ver. are not produced at all. We all believed this statue is 110 pieces while in reality only maybe 77 pieces existed. That normal ver are simply not being produced. In another word you are very likely not gonna find statue number 80# and above.

For example the zodd on horse, the void& Griffith, zodd III, sk on horse 2011 back lighting etc, all of those did NOT sell out within the pre-order period but listed as sold out suddenly. You just not gonna find zodd III # 500 exist in this world in reality. The pieces that really sold out if not instant sold out cases like 20th or sk brith ceremony are the ones will be listed as 4 pieces left 3peieces left or similar Shi-t on the title before they put sold out in the page.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: IncantatioN on June 18, 2014, 02:11:16 PM
We saw something similar happen with Serpico's Silver version.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Zoddit on June 18, 2014, 07:19:33 PM
Sure it is possible to talk over the head sculpt and/or the pose of this statue but I'm like totally in love with details and paint job. I only hope that paying less for a statue, as we all wish for,  do not mean to significantly lose this detail, as happens with Sideshow, Bowen, Tsume, Pop Culture Shock... Sure I could buy more pieces but I really don't need to fill my house with a plenty of ordinary berserk statues...

(http://dumpshare.net/images/380591610308060_557687557685674_5061199671990345302_n.jpg)


Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: hubalo on June 18, 2014, 11:27:56 PM
Sure it is possible to talk over the head sculpt and/or the pose of this statue but I'm like totally in love with details and paint job. I only hope that paying less for a statue, as we all wish for,  do not mean to significantly lose this detail, as happens with Sideshow, Bowen, Tsume, Pop Culture Shock... Sure I could buy more pieces but I really don't need to fill my house with a plenty of ordinary berserk statues...


i have some tsume statues, and they are as good as it gets, both painting and sculpt., kempachi, and phoenix, awesome masterpieces, and at decent price........
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Zoddit on June 19, 2014, 10:09:05 AM
i have some tsume statues, and they are as good as it gets, both painting and sculpt., kempachi, and phoenix, awesome masterpieces, and at decent price........

wait, i'm not discussing the quality this time, tsume (and so on) statues are very good for the price but pretty ordinaries for my taste, I don't see any special detail in their paint job. And I own or used to own at least one statue for each of the factories I mentioned above.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: hubalo on June 19, 2014, 12:47:49 PM
wait, i'm not discussing the quality this time, tsume (and so on) statues are very good for the price but pretty ordinaries for my taste, I don't see any special detail in their paint job. And I own or used to own at least one statue for each of the factories I mentioned above.

not to discuss either, but some times they do better jobs with their statues  than AOW, and they have won a lot of fame in justover 3 year they ve been here, proof is that their lats statue of 700 pieces sold in one day!! i dont think AOW could put that out the way they are working now, i mean i like their statues, i even bought cannon slice, but i think tsume has  done things very well,not just quality product wise, but their model bussines is the adecuate, giving us fair prices, how is it possible that AOW cant do that with 14 years or so in bussines
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: andrewdsz on June 19, 2014, 01:57:32 PM
because some of the AOW pieces are far much better made paint wise.

For example our new tentacle ship.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Mangetsu on June 20, 2014, 02:27:21 PM
they made an new limited edition with an new attachement: cutted thorn of the ghost ship beast's beard(tentacle)


it look's cool, honestly but i still don't know what to thinck of it since it is only 2 pieces which you can place randomly on the base

btw limited to 15 pieces

(http://www.art-of-war.co.jp/prg_data/img/PH1403259829.jpg)
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Sankari on June 20, 2014, 05:29:58 PM
they made an new limited edition with an new attachement: cutted thorn of the ghost ship beast's beard(tentacle)


it look's cool, honestly but i still don't know what to thinck of it since it is only 2 pieces which you can place randomly on the base

btw limited to 15 pieces

(http://www.art-of-war.co.jp/prg_data/img/PH1403259829.jpg)

Its not really limited to 15 pieces. They just took some of the statues that didn´t sell and are trying a new gimmick to try to justify the ridiculous price tag.

to me it just screams desperation
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Mangetsu on June 20, 2014, 05:37:26 PM
to me it just screams desperation

Exatcly, they are pulling some random shit out of their ass to sell some piece's



Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: andrewdsz on June 20, 2014, 10:53:41 PM
I rather have a puck than these two stupid claws....... Mega fell attachments.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: hubalo on June 20, 2014, 11:25:29 PM
Its not really limited to 15 pieces. They just took some of the statues that didn´t sell and are trying a new gimmick to try to justify the ridiculous price tag.

to me it just screams desperation


from what i understood, the ones who preordered the puck version will, get, both the claws and the puck?
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: krzykoopa on June 21, 2014, 02:52:14 AM
When  I received the email I was extremely under whelmed and kinda sad with AOW  :judo:
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: sensui on June 21, 2014, 06:28:52 AM
Yeah....seeing this new "limited" version does not inspire confidence.  Seeing more pictures of it just affirms my believe that the pose is so freakin' weird....seriously wtf is he doing if it weren't for the title, no sense of motion whatsoever.  Won't even go into that face of Guts.....

Desperation....I have to agree with you guys, very desperate indeed.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Ahmetal on June 25, 2014, 01:43:00 AM
I think you all may be right about the desperation to sell the item but I am loving the add on. I preordered my canon slice with Extra blood effect on:
1. The Deck
2. The whole body/armor
3. The Canon muzzle and Guts arm
4. The dragon slayer
5. Guts face and back neck
6. Guts cape inside and out
7. Guts leather pouches/packs

I almost wanted to retract my request for extra blood effect to the face due to the horrible paint jobs of face blood on Guts in the birth ceremony chapter statues. Only the first two iterations of that statue were horrible as far as paint goes. I hope AOW doesn't botch the face blood for my canon slice. I'm a noob to AOW so I am giddy about this statue even though I agree with most critics about the face sculpt and other gripes with the pose. Oh and of course the price blows. Doesn't make me giddy one bit.

I'm getting a lazy Susan for this bad boy. They are providing Japanese customers with the lazy Susan but said it's too much trouble to ship international. This pose would like killer whilst rotating on display.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: IncantatioN on June 25, 2014, 03:30:41 AM
I think you all may be right about the desperation to sell the item but I am loving the add on. I preordered my canon slice with Extra blood effect on:
1. The Deck
2. The whole body/armor
3. The Canon muzzle and Guts arm
4. The dragon slayer
5. Guts face and back neck
6. Guts cape inside and out
7. Guts leather pouches/packs

Isn't that the entire statue? 
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Ahmetal on June 25, 2014, 03:42:17 AM
Isn't that the entire statue?

Lol sure is. I wanted to be thorough with AOW and I just copied that list from the email with them.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: hubalo on June 26, 2014, 03:24:38 PM
i remember there were many complains about the tentacle ship statue before it was released , now that is out, everyone who owns it love it and dont want to sell it, maybe its going to be the same with this one.....
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Aazealh on June 26, 2014, 06:09:44 PM
i remember there were many complains about the tentacle ship statue before it was released , now that is out, everyone who owns it love it and dont want to sell it, maybe its going to be the same with this one.....

If they bought the product it means they liked it enough in the first place.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Akebobo on October 20, 2014, 01:19:52 PM
Ordered mine before I decided to downsize.  Arrived on Saturday, and it's a pretty impressive piece.  Pose is indeed uninspired, but the tons of little details make up for it. 
At this size and quality, I'd say a fair retail price would be around half the AoW price.  I'm not burning with regret though, it's the best Guts piece I own and will probably be the only one I keep.
Will post detail pics if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: rayhato on October 20, 2014, 01:39:40 PM
Will post detail pics if anyone is interested.
Please do. I'm not going to get this one, but I'm curious about the quality after 20th anniversary masterpiece.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Ahmetal on October 20, 2014, 03:39:13 PM
Will post detail pics if anyone is interested.

Ya, please do. Mine arrived at jfk this morning. I thought it would be here by now. Hopefully I'll have it by tmw...so I don't really neeeed pics since I'll have a, bloody-all-over version soon. But it would be awesome to see yours, nonetheless.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Akebobo on October 20, 2014, 11:26:54 PM
OK, here we go:

scale comparison
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p731/blingalingading/IMG_6335_zps2969401f.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/blingalingading/media/IMG_6335_zps2969401f.jpg.html)

(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p731/blingalingading/IMG_6345_zpsccb97dbc.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/blingalingading/media/IMG_6345_zpsccb97dbc.jpg.html)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p731/blingalingading/IMG_6339_zps1ca8e923.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/blingalingading/media/IMG_6339_zps1ca8e923.jpg.html)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p731/blingalingading/IMG_6342_zpse4cf4930.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/blingalingading/media/IMG_6342_zpse4cf4930.jpg.html)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p731/blingalingading/IMG_6338_zpsb5f2a94b.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/blingalingading/media/IMG_6338_zpsb5f2a94b.jpg.html)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p731/blingalingading/IMG_6337_zps1584f134.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/blingalingading/media/IMG_6337_zps1584f134.jpg.html)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p731/blingalingading/IMG_6340_zpsfb13337d.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/blingalingading/media/IMG_6340_zpsfb13337d.jpg.html)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p731/blingalingading/IMG_6341_zps1b325766.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/blingalingading/media/IMG_6341_zps1b325766.jpg.html)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p731/blingalingading/IMG_6344_zps04955a97.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/blingalingading/media/IMG_6344_zps04955a97.jpg.html)
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Ahmetal on October 20, 2014, 11:32:36 PM
Absolutely love it. Thanks. And perfect size comparison statue.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: knecht on October 21, 2014, 12:00:55 AM
awesome pics!! love this statue; was just to much for my wallet tho :(
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: rayhato on October 21, 2014, 07:28:34 AM
Thank you! Amazing piece, the quality is superb. I still don't like the pose though, but considering to get a new Skull Knight.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: Zoddit on October 22, 2014, 03:35:46 PM
not a fan of the pose but the statue looks very good overall, congrats and thank you for the pics!  :ubik:
I like the scars on his face but what about his ears? Are they really so difficult to sculpt? they didn't even try... :mozgus:

http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=4790.msg229757#msg229757
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: rayhato on November 22, 2014, 07:16:18 AM
AOW have 1 more of them in restock with SPECIAL REPAINT (again).
http://www.art-of-war.jp/product/477

So if anyone missed, here is your chance; I'll pass it though.
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: sensui on December 03, 2014, 05:03:19 AM
Well I couldn't stand the temptation when they offered me one a week back (though to my understanding mine was the last one left....but I still see one for sale hah) since I have all the major AOW Guts pieces.  Came in yesterday and despite all the criticism for AOW, I can't think of another figure company I've dealt with that is on par in terms of detail, paint, quality of resin material, and packaging/presentation.  These all come at a premium I'm sure along with the limited releases....AOW just needs to choose their projects better down the line and not fall back on repaints all day.  The statue looks great as one might expect, but the pose is weird still and I still think if no one told me what Guts was doing, I would be wondering what this pose is supposed to be. 
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: skullknight2014 on December 03, 2014, 07:15:37 AM
Congrats Sensui! I thought this guts figure look beautiful amazing! I love it!
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: skullknight2014 on February 28, 2015, 04:14:50 AM
You just got owned. Repaint bloody version. http://www.art-of-war.jp/product/611

Color changes of this repainting.
1.Giving more redness to the inside of the cloak, and adding some black stains on the outside to make more contrast between the inside and outside.
2. Much more fresh flowing blood be added, which changed the whole statue to be a bloody imagine, especially on the following parts:
- Dragon Slayer is repainted to a gory sword to express the fierce battle with the monsters.
- More dripping blood effects were added on the armor, the Arm Cannon, Guts’s face, leg and feet, and also the deck base.
- This item is repainted to a red bloody imagine. Compare to the previous bluish blood version, the repainting works represent that Guts is also wounded and it is a really hard battle.

(http://www.art-of-war.jp/data/art-of-war/product/20150228_eeeab4.jpg)
(http://www.art-of-war.jp/data/art-of-war/product/20150228_542a87.jpg)

I think is those unsold units
Title: Re: [AOW] Guts Black Swords Man -The Spinning Cannon Slice
Post by: roskus on February 28, 2015, 08:23:03 AM
an other 344 pieces?! WAD! The AoW merchandising political is not correct, i prefer spend my mony for goodsmile guts that buy fake limit edition by them.