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Title: Episode 292
Post by: blueberserk on November 16, 2007, 04:20:32 PM
Title: 死の霧 - Fog of Death (http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/sp/07v23.html)

(http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/sp/img/07v23.jpg)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 16, 2007, 04:22:58 PM
Haha, Ganishka looks upset already. :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on November 16, 2007, 04:41:26 PM
Sort of resembles a more extreme form of your avatar Aaz  :guts:

I wonder what he's so perturbed about, so early on in the events? Maybe the resistance has already seized back the kidnapped Wyndham women?

 :ganishka: : "WHERE ALL THE WHITE WIMMEN AT?!"
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 16, 2007, 04:42:58 PM
I wonder what he's so perturbed about, so early on in the events? Maybe the resistance has already seized back the kidnapped Wyndham women?

When the weather's cold and humid it makes his scar hurt. :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on November 16, 2007, 04:45:18 PM
ANOTHER episode?      ....this feels wierd.

Ganishka looks rather upset.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on November 16, 2007, 04:46:52 PM
Preview? Mint!

Forgot to lock the front door again, Ganishka? Seriously.. he looks like he's about to fry a minion here (fingers crossed for Daiba again).
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on November 16, 2007, 04:47:49 PM
Seriously.. he looks like he's about to fry a minion here (fingers crossed for Daiba again).
What do you have against our favorite pterodactyl-riding, turban-wearing caster?

I kinda miss the guy...  :daiba: I hadn't even thought of him in a while, but since he survived the sea assault, I think it's safe to assume we'll be seeing him as a part of the upcoming battle. Then again, we were holding out so long for THE LAND GENERAL, only to see his eyes/eardrums/brain/nostril/neck/ etc. be arrow'd in one page.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on November 16, 2007, 05:05:37 PM

What do you have against our favorite pterodactyl-riding, turban-wearing caster?


I just like watching him get the brunt of Ganishka's tantrums... which is bizarre because I really like the chap.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: vlad on November 16, 2007, 05:25:32 PM
Woohoo, new episode and a great looking preview, thanks for the heads up! The expression is priceless, almost seems like it's someone else's hand the way he's clutching his face and those bulging eyes.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Death May Die on November 16, 2007, 05:58:35 PM
Hey, the episode 291, at the end it didn't give the next release date. Does any one know when 292 will be around by chance?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 16, 2007, 07:03:18 PM
Hey, the episode 291, at the end it didn't give the next release date.

Yes it did.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on November 16, 2007, 07:41:49 PM
Awesome preview!

Then again, we were holding out so long for THE LAND GENERAL, only to see his eyes/eardrums/brain/nostril/neck/ etc. be arrow'd in one page.

The Ganish waited all that time to introduce his elite land general only to have him lamely killed off before he could do anything worthwhile, so no wonder he's pissed. :ganishka:

Does any one know when 292 will be around by chance?

... :griff:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on November 16, 2007, 08:19:26 PM
Wow, best preview image and episode title combo ever: FOG OF DEATH!

Anyway, looks like Ganishka is maybe still steaming over the events in Vritannis. :carcus:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Shinryuu on November 17, 2007, 05:56:06 AM
Maybe Ganishka had the same dream mentioned by the children in 291... that would almost certainly disturb him.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: becchii on November 17, 2007, 06:50:41 AM
Yeah, what if he did get that same dream? I'm looking forward to this episode anyway and if I'm not wrong it's not that far away from now, which is a Good Thing (tm) of course. Really though the first thought I got when looking at the picture was whether he forgot to turn off the stove or realised he forgot to turn up last episode...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 17, 2007, 10:08:22 AM
Maybe Ganishka had the same dream mentioned by the children in 291... that would almost certainly disturb him.

Yeah, especially since I don't think it'd be the exact same dream, it'd probably show him his own death or something. :griff:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Skeleton on November 17, 2007, 03:20:42 PM
I really want Ganishka to defeat Griffi-poo.  Can someone please convince Miura to make it happen?  :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Okin on November 18, 2007, 04:57:22 AM
Ganishka really should take better care of his eyes, look at them all red and puffy! I think he's angry that his contact fell out. All that steam must be irritating them too!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Sparnage on November 20, 2007, 10:35:46 AM
Looks like the pacing may have increased a tad. Still don't think they'll be fighting just yet, too soon.

I think what I'm looking forward to mostly is if Griffith will finally show more of what he is really capable of.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: smoke on November 20, 2007, 10:45:16 AM
You guys got it all wrong. He's taking off his pressurized, air-tight Ganishka mask and revealing that he's actually Griffith's evil twin brother, Grifith.

Cool preview.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on November 20, 2007, 11:21:44 AM
I think this needs to take a Fist of the North Star connection and everyone needs to be everyones long lost secret brother/sister.  :griff:

Anyways, I hope Ganishka goes out with a bang and dies a very glorious well depicted death. If you have to go, go with style.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 20, 2007, 11:40:19 AM
I think this needs to take a Fist of the North Star connection and everyone needs to be everyones long lost secret brother/sister.  :griff:

So, you went to Raoh's shinto funeral earlier this year or what? :SK:

Anyways, I hope Ganishka goes out with a bang and dies a very glorious well depicted death. If you have to go, go with style.

Same here. Most importantly I don't want his death to come at no cost for Griffith.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Sparnage on November 20, 2007, 01:05:44 PM
Same here. Most importantly I don't want his death to come at no cost for Griffith.

Interesting thought. I've wondered if he will even break a sweat. In either case I would be surprised if Griffith struggled heavily, but then again it'd be good to show the first incident ever of another being able to hurt him. It'd make the reader more able to put faith in Guts.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 20, 2007, 02:31:47 PM
Interesting thought. I've wondered if he will even break a sweat. In either case I would be surprised if Griffith struggled heavily, but then again it'd be good to show the first incident ever of another being able to hurt him. It'd make the reader more able to put faith in Guts.

Honestly I don't think he's going to have a very hard time since he's inherently more powerful and has everything already planned and set in his favor. Yet I'd be disappointed if Ganishka went out without a bang.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: smoke on November 20, 2007, 03:24:06 PM
I think the episode title is somewhat promising for Ganishka fans. Let's hope "Fog of Death" refers to his actions towards Griffith's army, and not the way he leaves this world.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 20, 2007, 03:29:53 PM
I think the episode title is somewhat promising for Ganishka fans. Let's hope "Fog of Death" refers to his actions towards Griffith's army, and not the way he leaves this world.

Hahah, I didn't think of it that way, but don't worry, "Fog of Death" is referring to the fog being deadly and not to Ganishka's death or anything implicating an awkward translation.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Duststorm on November 20, 2007, 06:15:42 PM
He sure looks pissed maybe he is losing already. Don't want to be a bother but when is this episode available?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Sparnage on November 21, 2007, 05:12:19 AM
Don't want to be a bother but when is this episode available?

Should be this friday, the 22nd.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: dwarfkicker on November 21, 2007, 06:08:29 AM
Quote
You guys got it all wrong. He's taking off his pressurized, air-tight Ganishka mask and revealing that he's actually Griffith's evil twin brother, Grifith.

Yeah and this is the reaction he'll get:
http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/movie_sounds/sounds_files_20071107_9308167/predator/ugly.wav


Sorry, I read your post and it just screamed Predator to me.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Buy Berserk! on November 21, 2007, 12:44:48 PM
Purchase volume 32.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2007, 12:51:28 PM
Thanks. This Fog of Death isn't fucking around. Looks like Ganishka was having trouble maintaining his form before he entered the Daka factory.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 21, 2007, 12:59:18 PM
Thanks. This Fog of Death isn't fucking around. Looks like Ganishka was having trouble maintaining his form before he entered the Daka factory.

Well in any case he's very pissed, and Daiba seems pretty nervous about it. Poor guy's the only Kushan survivor in the whole place... Anyway, at least now we know what the "false dawn" was referring to. Ganishka just killed everything in the city that wasn't safely locked away from the fog, so whenever Griffith blows his fog away, Wyndham will be eerily calm. Only until SUPER SHREDDER shows up (last page). :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2007, 01:02:57 PM
Yeah, it's a surprising turn of events from what we expected the battle for Wyndham to be. No more minions in the city, but Ganishka just altered the battlefield into one of biological warfare. Seems to me this kind of tactic has one giant flaw, though... But maybe this is just the beginning, and what's to emerge from the Daka factory will be the real adversary.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 21, 2007, 01:10:24 PM
Yeah, it's a surprising turn of events from what we expected the battle for Wyndham to be. No more minions in the city, but Ganishka just altered the battlefield into one of biological warfare.

Yeah, I'm surprised we didn't see it coming considering the title of this episode. It all makes perfect sense now. BTW, before anybody asks, the next episode won't be in the next YA, so there's at least a 2 weeks break.

Seems to me this kind of tactic has one giant flaw, though... But maybe this is just the beginning, and what's to emerge from the Daka factory will be the real adversary.

Yeah, since as far as we know, Griffith is going to clear up the fog somehow... On the last page, Daiba comments on how something very horrible is coming, straight from the bottom of the astral world.

Puella says that it could hint at more than one creature. Super Daka? Super Kundalini-like creatures? Let's see how the apostles fare against THIS! :daiba:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: brinco on November 21, 2007, 01:17:50 PM
Thanks for the scans.  Is the Fog of Death  intentional or is it a byproduct of Ganishka enhancement?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on November 21, 2007, 01:20:22 PM
Dats some serious gas.  :ganishka:

Thanks, once again, "scanbot"
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 21, 2007, 01:35:49 PM
Is the Fog of Death  intentional or is it a byproduct of Ganishka enhancement?

I'm pretty sure it's intentional, and is in itself an enhancement of Ganishka's powers. The apostles couldn't hurt his fog form before, but now that it's tremendously acidic, just touching it could mean death. What I'm curious to see is what the horrifying monster that's being created will look like.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Grovel on November 21, 2007, 01:54:55 PM
Cheers Scanbot!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Proj2501 on November 21, 2007, 02:12:46 PM
Spank you Scanbot. Wow, this episode was cool. Yes, cool.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: vlad on November 21, 2007, 02:31:37 PM
Thank a lot for the scans! The fog looks like a serious weapon but I was wondering, did he kill them because it was a sort of sacrifice (to bring about what ever it is he's trying to unleash) or was he testing his new power?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: RealHarlekin on November 21, 2007, 02:37:18 PM
Great! Thanks for this latest episode to whoever pulls the string of the Scanbot.

This Fog of Death isn't fucking around. Looks like Ganishka was having trouble maintaining his form before he entered the Daka factory.
Looks like he accidentally took a walk through his own fog resulting in his flesh form to erode.  :guts: I'm very anxious to see what is hatched in Dr. Ganishniks mean daka machine  :isidro:

Especially like these guys:

http://www.pictureupload.de/pictures/211107164916_nose.JPG (http://www.pictureupload.de/pictures/211107164916_nose.JPG)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2007, 02:51:08 PM
Thank a lot for the scans! The fog looks like a serious weapon but I was wondering, did he kill them because it was a sort of sacrifice (to bring about what ever it is he's trying to unleash) or was he testing his new power?

I really don't think it was a sacrifice, since there was no occultation, ceremony, branding ... or anything of the sort. So, no. They were just in the vicinity of his altered, deadly fog.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Baldulf on November 21, 2007, 02:55:46 PM
Thanks for the scans.

It seems that Ganishka is losing his mind.What is the point in killing his own army?
I know they are useless against the apostles but even so...

And about the factory,he is bringing some monsters or he is powering himself up?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 21, 2007, 03:11:14 PM
Thank a lot for the scans! The fog looks like a serious weapon but I was wondering, did he kill them because it was a sort of sacrifice (to bring about what ever it is he's trying to unleash) or was he testing his new power?

I think he just didn't care. He knew they were useless against what was coming (they were not even in superior numbers anymore apparently) so he had no reason to bother saving them. Plus considering his state of mind I doubt he even gave it a thought. When we see him going to the Daka factory he talks about how "it's the only way", so I think he realized that he couldn't possibly defeat Griffith without taking things to another level. By plunging himself into that monstrosity he created from apostles (that apparently more or less replicates the transmutation process they usually go through), it seems he's going to become more than a simple apostle; something beyond that state. Essentially I believe it's like he's using a beherit for the second time (or third, or fourth, who knows), but he's bypassing the God Hand and doing it himself. The same terms are used: vessel, changing one's life, etc. He's reviving himself and gaining more power.

He also talks about the advent of an evil god once inside the fluid.

It seems that Ganishka is losing his mind.What is the point in killing his own army? I know they are useless against the apostles but even so...

Well even so nothing. He just killed the few soldiers and familiars that were dwelling in the city, the 200,000 troops massed outside are untouched.

And about the factory,he is bringing some monsters or he is powering himself up?

He's definitely powering himself up, but apparently there could be more to it than just that.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on November 21, 2007, 03:44:10 PM
Awesome episode, thanks for the scans!  Can't wait to see what's being summoned, as well as what Ganishka will look like upon emerging from the mass of apostles.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 21, 2007, 03:57:51 PM
Can't wait to see what's being summoned, as well as what Ganishka will look like upon emerging from the mass of apostles.

Who else is thinking the apostle-blob is going to explode when whatever's inside will emerge? :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2007, 04:04:11 PM
Im anticipating seeing just how much EVIL is in Ganishka's body afterall  :ganishka:

Quote from: Ganishka in Ep 234: Demon God
Undersized creatures, getting overconfident with the small amount of evil you received into your body. Feel true power.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Funkmasta Zeph on November 21, 2007, 04:50:44 PM
I get the feeling we'll probably have a battle between Hawks/Midland and the Kushan army outside the city gates, and than uber-Ganishka/monsters will burst out in the midst of it.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: pippin22 on November 21, 2007, 06:14:10 PM
This episode is hot.  Love it.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Marik on November 21, 2007, 06:15:33 PM
Thanks for the scans, Scanbot. I think that at this rate that pool of evil could be as a kind of Beherit. We''ll see.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: IcePuck on November 21, 2007, 06:50:08 PM
How come the episode is already here? I thought YA was published on fridays?

Anyway, it was an interesting turn of events. His sudden powerup to try to match a superior enemy bothers me a little, thankfully it's not something he seems to be doing lightly though. Maybe he'll lose more/most of what's left of "himself" in exchange for large amountz of evil powerz just to be able to scratch Griffith's peachy skin.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 21, 2007, 07:02:54 PM
How come the episode is already here? I thought YA was published on fridays?

YA is indeed always published on fridays, except on some special occasions. Now, putting aside the fact episodes have been leaked early countless times before, can you tell me what day it is in Japan right now? :carcus:

Anyway, it was an interesting turn of events. His sudden powerup to try to match a superior enemy bothers me a little, thankfully it's not something he seems to be doing lightly though. Maybe he'll lose more/most of what's left of "himself" in exchange for large amountz of evil powerz just to be able to scratch Griffith's peachy skin.

Yeah, seeing how panicked Daiba is, I don't think this turn of events is to be taken lightly...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on November 21, 2007, 09:47:38 PM
POW!

Some seriously brutal stuff going on here. Reminds me a little of the "elf attack" the village suffered back in the Lost Children arc. Lotsa skin melting there, but not as bad as this. Not seen an elephant dissolve before. Thank you, Miura, for this groundbreaking entertainment!

As for the upcoming battle, maybe an aerial attack will be in place.. perhaps a certain "Hawk" swooping through the fog to rid the world of the multi-armed evil that might spawn out of Ganishka's quasi "apostolic womb". You'd think the attack was happening tonight by the way the people are indoors. It feels a little premature, but does anyone else have an opinion about the time of D-Day?


P.S. Shall we assume the fog only affects biological beings that can breathe it in? Brick and mortar isn't affected here.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 21, 2007, 10:03:23 PM
Some seriously brutal stuff going on here. Reminds me a little of the "elf attack" the village suffered back in the Lost Children arc. Lotsa skin melting there, but not as bad as this.

Actually it wasn't really skin melting, the bugs just took bites out of animals/people, and since there were so many of them, they devoured everything... I don't know what's more gruesome between that and the fog.

You'd think the attack was happening tonight by the way the people are indoors. It feels a little premature, but does anyone else have an opinion about the time of D-Day?

I think it's going to be now, yeah. It'll start within the next two episodes IMHO (if there's no cut to Guts' group).

P.S. Shall we assume the fog only affects biological beings that can breathe it in? Brick and mortar isn't affected here.

Yeah, it doesn't even affect clothes or armor, only living beings.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Pencil-smith on November 21, 2007, 11:20:49 PM
Awesome episode, thanks for the scans.

If there are any resistance members still hiding in the sewers or other open areas, they are pretty fooked.
Raban and Foss are probably too important to be killed off screen though.

What's the gist with these two guys (http://www.pictureupload.de/pictures/211107164916_nose.JPG) anyway?
Can somebody tell me what they were (originally) talking about?
What does one talk about while one's skin melts?

The image of the soldiers trying to outrun the fog (p15) was tragic.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Odio Pieno on November 21, 2007, 11:58:37 PM
d00d i have no idea whats going on right now Ive been following the EPISODES but i lost it a while back i have to reread everything but it looks great...no question there... :???: :???: :???:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on November 22, 2007, 12:13:14 AM
If there are any resistance members still hiding in the sewers or other open areas, they are pretty fooked.
Raban and Foss are probably too important to be killed off screen though.
No, they were told by the children to stay indoors during the "false dawn." Miura even threw in a panel of Wyndham inhabitants safely behind closed doors in case we forgot about that part of the last episode. They're safe, for now.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: IcePuck on November 22, 2007, 12:19:31 AM
YA is indeed always published on fridays, except on some special occasions. Now, putting aside the fact episodes have been leaked early countless times before, can you tell me what day it is in Japan right now? :carcus:
I must have gotten high from the sudden berserk dose, different timezones didn't really occur to me at all. Isn't it still a day early though? How do people get a hold of the episodes if not from the magazine? This sounds like an inside job to me. :carcus:

The "daka factory" looks a lot like the idea of evil, especially on page 18. Maybe it's some kind of an imitation of that.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 22, 2007, 12:55:11 AM
I must have gotten high from the sudden berserk dose, different timezones didn't really occur to me at all. Isn't it still a day early though? How do people get a hold of the episodes if not from the magazine? This sounds like an inside job to me. :carcus:

Well yeah, it was available on thrusday, which does happen sometimes like I said. I'd tell you more about it but... then I'd have to KILL YOU. :zodd: It's because friday was a national holiday and thus it couldn't come out on that day.

The "daka factory" looks a lot like the idea of evil, especially on page 18. Maybe it's some kind of an imitation of that.

Yeah it does look like it, and even the last page reminded me of it in a way, however I'm not sure Ganishka really tried to replicate it (I mean, let's not forget what we're talking about here, the Idea of Evil is a God), or even that he knows of it in such details. Man, I really hope we get a little backstory on him, there's still so much we don't know!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on November 22, 2007, 04:27:58 AM
Ugh-oh. Griffith better still have that Saiyan Scouter because Ganishka just went into the Chamber of Time to "POWER UP".  :troll:

I just cannot wait till all hell breaks loose! Literally!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on November 22, 2007, 06:16:29 AM
Something about the way this whole scenario is unfolding seems awfully familiar...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKh7e2ESBc

"The morning comes but it's not a real morning
A huge dark shadow hides the sun"

And Daiba = Kamek. :ganishka: :daiba:


Anyway, awesome turn of events, I can't wait to see Ganishzilla blot out the sun using his self-made Idea machine.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Skeleton on November 22, 2007, 04:51:58 PM
Wow! What an amazing episode!

Ganishka is going to tear it up!  Kiss your arse goodbye, Griffith! :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Lithrael on November 22, 2007, 06:13:01 PM
Man.  It never disappoints.  Thanks again Scanbot!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Blues on November 22, 2007, 06:24:07 PM
Anyway, awesome turn of events, I can't wait to see Ganishzilla blot out the sun using his self-made Idea machine.
And Griffith will seek refuge in the shade, naturally. Or maybe Ganishka will reveal a more attractive/transvestite form and give Griffith some type of incentive such as ruling his own kingdom if he only become his sex/butt slave bow to him.

Signs point to no, but oh the potential!

The episode reminded me a slight bit of good ol' Moses' biblical prophecy...thing. And Ganishka towards the end reminded me of Onslaught's last ditch "untouchable" form. THE APOSTLES MUST SACRIFICE THEMSELVES TO GIVE GANISHKA A MATERIAL PRESENCE. Go Zodd Go!

Nah, my only guess will be Ganishka making some reference to Griffith's blade being at an impasse and how its impossible for him to touch him as he makes some gigantic revelation of his true abilities etc. I'm actually hoping for the later, it'd be nice to finally get more info on what it is he's really capable of (Griffith/Femto).
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: prawnstyle on November 22, 2007, 08:14:39 PM
good episode, much more interesting that the last... a bit disappointed that we didn't actually see  :ganishka: form though, the manga is moving at a slow pace... Im hoping this time round  :ganishka: will offer a little challenge to griffth, although of course it might be possible for him to hurt him, being an astral being.

I really want  :miura: to get on with  :guts: story and have them arrive at the damn elf isle

Id rate this episode eight prawns out of ten...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on November 22, 2007, 08:42:55 PM
Well, as cool as this episode certainly was, it certainly wasn't more interesting compared the information presented in the last, though I imagine that doesn't matter compared to DEATH FOG and the promise of a giant monster, as for any misguided notions of "the pace", as always...

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/weekly.jpg)

I wouldn't bother pointing this out, but the pace is actually moving so briskly in real time as to make any comments on slowness utterly absurd. In the last three episodes alone there's been several short yet important scenes involving just about every major and periphery character, the last two moving, unexpectedly quickly, towards a major climax, yet I bet most people haven't even noticed this unprecedented happening because they can't even remember two episodes ago.

What's this all mean? Stop judging "pace" based on the release schedule, it's not the same thing.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Jhot obs on November 22, 2007, 10:00:14 PM
Thanks for the episode skullknight.net!

I agree that things have been going rather fast in the last 2 episodes: The Midlanders got another prophetic dream about what's exactly happening this episode (Ganishka some sort of power from the astral world via the chained apostles & creating an uber killer fog). Maybe next episode, we'll get to see what's become of him & see the Midlanders fleeing the city before it turns into an all-you-can-kill buffet.

By the way, has it been explained why Ganishka's face is all fucked up/steaming like that in the beginning?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Blues on November 22, 2007, 10:31:29 PM
(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/weekly.jpg)
I forget which post it was, but there was a post where you showed this and referenced the whole "Berserk is too much fantasy!" argument and compared it to what it must have been like when Zodd first showed up. Might have been separate posts, but none the less I acknowledge your ability at dealing which such thoughts from Berserk's "weekly readers" club.

By the way, has it been explained why Ganishka's face is all fucked up/steaming like that in the beginning?
Well worth noting as the injury from Guts/Zodd to his forehead has shown a bit of notice by Ganishka before his battle with Griffith, and coupling that with Griffith's turnabout is kind of a cause of lost control/emphasis on the face, imo?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Black_Devil on November 23, 2007, 02:08:35 AM
Well with it seeming that no matter how this turns out it still ends with Goro- I mean Ganishka getting whacked, I wonder what will happen to all this kooky apostle making tech he's devised? Do you guys think it'll survive Ganishka? Or disappear with him when he's put in the grinder?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 23, 2007, 02:14:23 AM
I wonder what will happen to all this kooky apostle making tech he's devised? Do you guys think it'll survive Ganishka? Or disappear with him when he's put in the grinder?

Who else is thinking the apostle-blob is going to explode when whatever's inside will emerge? :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Sparnage on November 23, 2007, 04:09:32 AM
What an awesome turn of events. I'm really excited to see what's install for the next episode, yet feel a little betrayed on account of a break taking place before we even get to see him come out of the Apostle womb (excluding a shadow in 291).
Even though Ganishka is obviously more powerful than the average Apostle, it did seem usual to think he had a third form he wasn't showing, particularly when it could've been useful during the battle where Charlotte was rescued. Now we know why. 

While I don't think that the deaths of bystanders occurring during Ganishka's transform was an official sacrifice in any way in the sense of the standard reincarnation, it was still no doubt very intentionally symbolic or representing a rebirth ceremony, showing his jump in power and the magnitude of the surrounding effects and whatnot. I'm starting to think Griffith might need to try a bit afterall.

I wouldn't bother pointing this out, but the pace is actually moving so briskly in real time as to make any comments on slowness utterly absurd. In the last three episodes alone there's been several short yet important scenes involving just about every major and periphery character, the last two moving, unexpectedly quickly, towards a major climax, yet I bet most people haven't even noticed this unprecedented happening because they can't even remember two episodes ago.

Yeah no complaints here, the current structure seems thorough on the main relevant points yet not lingering on any particular characters or outside influences, comparable to the golden age pacing IMHO.


Edit: Also good to see Ganishka's still bitching about his scar hurting, Guts and Zodd so pwned. :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: becchii on November 23, 2007, 07:09:00 AM
Thanks for the scans. I don't know what people are complaining about when they talk about the pace being too slow; in fact it almost seems as if the pace is going faster than I expected... Despite the preview picture released some time back I didn't think they'd get into the fog right from this episode. That's why until very recently I've held off reading Berserk as it comes out, preferring to wait a long time for episodes to pile up before reading them in one go... The release schedule does very bad things to ones' brains. :( Frankly speaking, I'd actually have liked it to go a leeeetle bit slower but I'd probably get a treatment of flesh-eating smog if I said so...

I have to admit that my favourite panel in the whole episode was the one Pencil-Knight mentioned - well, it just made me grin, black humour and all that...
Guy on the right points towards guy on the left: "! Dude, what's with your face?" and the other guy's all "Eh...?" While they're on the verge of death.

From what I understood Daiba was going on about how this 'womb' thing is a 'reincarnation vessel' that he's spent his life making, a substitute that could even be called a "man-made Beherit"... So if what Ganishka's doing is indeed a Beherit 2nd Pass, I'd love to see what comes out of it in the end.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: gh-zodd on November 23, 2007, 07:45:58 AM
After reading the episode, I can say: ooo I didn't expect that to happen

Daiba's wind protecting him eh? From the earlier pages it looked like :ganishka: wind power was pretty unstoppable, but then Daiba seems to turn it around or "divert" it pretty easily. Though the transformation isn't complete, I still think Griff won't have any problems.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 23, 2007, 03:24:37 PM
Even though Ganishka is obviously more powerful than the average Apostle, it did seem usual to think he had a third form he wasn't showing, particularly when it could've been useful during the battle where Charlotte was rescued. Now we know why.

Well I doubt he even considered doing what he's doing now until his recent confrontation with Griffith. By all accounts it seems pretty extreme, even for him. A true "last resort", "mad plan" kind of thing. Besides he wasn't ever in trouble during Charlotte's rescue, rather he was fooled into playing around with the apostles sent against him as a lure, and he couldn't do anything when he realized the princess had been taken away.

The release schedule does very bad things to ones' brains. :( Frankly speaking, I'd actually have liked it to go a leeeetle bit slower but I'd probably get a treatment of flesh-eating smog if I said so...

Faster, slower... I think the only constant here is that people are never going to be satisfied, no matter how it's done.

Daiba's wind protecting him eh? From the earlier pages it looked like :ganishka: wind power was pretty unstoppable, but then Daiba seems to turn it around or "divert" it pretty easily. Though the transformation isn't complete, I still think Griff won't have any problems.

Well it's not really that he has his own "wind" protecting him against another wind, but his limited magical powers allow him to create an invisible flux in the air that can divert the fog and prevent it from touching him. That's also how he can levitate. You bring up a good question though: is the fog even going to remain once Ganishka's transformation is complete? The dream talked about a fake dawn where it'd be safe for citizens to flee the city, and now the apostle-device seems to be swallowing back all the fog to feed Ganishka with the lives it leeched. In light of that, it's likely that the fake dawn is going to be now. And we can't know yet, but it might not be re-released after that; maybe Ganishka will not use fog anymore, who knows.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: JK on November 23, 2007, 09:25:06 PM
Lazy Miura didn't want to draw any more soldiers so he killed them!  :troll:

Well, a few more episodes, and we'll see what is His Highness Griffith, King of Midland, going to do now that he has his goddamn kingdom. Well, probably we won't see it right away. But some foreshadowing would be nice, before shifting back to Guts.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on November 23, 2007, 09:45:38 PM
I guess we're skipping over Ganishka's apostle form to whatever he's going to achieve due to the reincarnation machine.  Daiba states that Ganishka's very body is made up of the fog, but the general opinion here is that's not his apostle form, but an ability he had before being reborn.  I'm really hoping we get some back story on the Emperor of Terror, to see what his life was like before using a beherit.  I wonder if he was the Kushan Emperor before he became an apostle, or if he started building the empire afterwards.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 23, 2007, 10:20:24 PM
I guess we're skipping over Ganishka's apostle form to whatever he's going to achieve due to the reincarnation machine. Daiba states that Ganishka's very body is made up of the fog, but the general opinion here is that's not his apostle form, but an ability he had before being reborn.

Yeah, if he had an apostle form we've lost the chance to see it now, or at least to see what it was before the upgrade. However I think the "general opinion" like you say is more that his fog is magical in nature as opposed to simply being his apostle form, as several things have hinted so far. Whether he acquired at least some of those magical abilities prior to becoming an apostle or not is impossible to tell IMHO (I'm sure that becoming an apostle would have dramatically increased his aptitude though).

Concerning Daiba's comment, it could be that Ganishka's body actually dissolved once in the apostle-cauldron, leaving him with a practically pure astral form. Another possibility that I'd thought about before is that the fog could have been his real form from the first time, his human form being something he had to materialize willingly. That could explain why when Griffith showed up he could coerce him into transforming into fog, how he managed to transform instantly when Irvine shot him in Wyndham, or why he was literally fuming at the beginning of this episode. Could be the result of experiments he had conducted on himself over the years in order to augment his power, maybe that even cost him his actual apostle form (heavy speculation here). However a few things make me think this isn't the case, for example the fact he was physically seated in his room with a giant scar on his face after Guts & Zodd dispelled his cloud form, or what happened when the strong wind blew his fog away during the battle of Vritannis.

Just a side note, but I remember that in the last episode thread, becchii was wondering why Griffith had bothered sending a dream to tell the people in Wyndham to shut themselves in, then to flee the city, etc. Of course now we know what danger they were facing, but I think this also brings the purpose of warning them into a new light. If they hadn't been hiding and had fallen prey to the fog, they would have been more potential power for Ganishka. So not only is he saving their lives and preventing them from seeing what's going to happen in the city, he's also making the incoming fight easier for himself.

I'm really hoping we get some back story on the Emperor of Terror, to see what his life was like before using a beherit.  I wonder if he was the Kushan Emperor before he became an apostle, or if he started building the empire afterwards.

Yeah, same here, a backstory would really be appreciated. It'd be interesting to see how the empire was formed, why the Bakiraka fell into disgrace, and why not even some of Rakshas' own backstory if he had met Ganishka before ("who stole my beherit?!").

Anyway, for what it's worth I think he became emperor after acquiring his powers, uniting all the clans together under his banner.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: DoM on November 24, 2007, 08:14:09 AM
I wonder if the power from the lives sucked by the fog is really significant. If it is maybe Ganishka would have maybe ordered all his troops to enter the city before he went into the apostle-device, in order to gain enormous power, right?

Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Sparnage on November 24, 2007, 08:39:29 AM
I wonder if the power from the lives sucked by the fog is really significant. If it is maybe Ganishka would have maybe ordered all his troops to enter the city before he went into the apostle-device, in order to gain enormous power, right?

It's probably safe to assume it was a spur of the moment thing, and he himself didn't know the consequences of what he was to become.


Edit: My apologies, forgot to thank the scanbot.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: _Noone_ on November 24, 2007, 01:40:54 PM
Awesome episode.  Seriously melted some faces.   :beast:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Duststorm on November 24, 2007, 06:22:16 PM
           This is rather a surprising turn of events. I like it that  :miura: did not do a large apostle vs pishacha battle its been done enough times already.
           
           I hope we see Griffith show some of his powers, do you think that skull knight will make a appearance
in this arc?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Woland on November 24, 2007, 08:17:11 PM
Thanks for the scans scanbot.

Is Ganishka making the Korgoth?*

*Yes, I'm throwing down the Total Annihilation reference.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Death May Die on November 26, 2007, 12:13:55 AM
So. let me get this straight. There is a time gap, where Ganishka was defeated, and now he's trying desperate measures? Or is he just over reacting before the battle has begun?

The apostle incarnation camber thing is pretty cool. Though, I think that they'll proably only use it this once in the series. It could wield many possibilities in the future. But it does open the ideas to being reincarnated with out using beherits in the future.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 26, 2007, 12:19:16 AM
I wonder if the power from the lives sucked by the fog is really significant. If it is maybe Ganishka would have maybe ordered all his troops to enter the city before he went into the apostle-device, in order to gain enormous power, right?

It's hard to tell, but that scenario would have been hard to pull off. Aside from what Sparnage pointed out, the regular troops are so numerous (probably to the point that they wouldn't have been able to enter the city due to their numbers anyway) that they could even have been too much for him to absord. Besides, they're still going to be useful to him; I doubt he's planning to kill off all the enemy troops by himself, even with his newfound power.

This is rather a surprising turn of events. I like it that  :miura: did not do a large apostle vs pishacha battle its been done enough times already.

Well, it's only been done once, in Wyndham (volume 27). In Vritannis we didn't really see them fight.
           
I hope we see Griffith show some of his powers, do you think that skull knight will make a appearance in this arc?

SK has already appeared many times in the Millennium Falcon arc. I don't think he's going to appear during this battle though.

So. let me get this straight. There is a time gap, where Ganishka was defeated, and now he's trying desperate measures? Or is he just over reacting before the battle has begun?

There was no time-gap, and he's not overreacting (though he's rather frantic), just being realistic.

The apostle incarnation camber thing is pretty cool. Though, I think that they'll proably only use it this once in the series.

Nooooo, reaaaaaaally? And I think it'd be more correct to talk about transmutation rather than incarnation, since it's not the same process Femto went through to become a new Griffith at all. It's just what every apostle goes through.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on November 26, 2007, 01:26:08 AM
The apostle incarnation camber thing is pretty cool. Though, I think that they'll proably only use it this once in the series. It could wield many possibilities in the future.
Indeed, the possibilities are endless!

(http://skullknight.net/images/transmo1.gif)
(http://skullknight.net/images/transmo2.gif)
Later, the Transmogrification box was turned on its side to become a duplicator. Maybe the same could happen with the Apostle Chamber?!  :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: vlad on November 26, 2007, 01:47:12 AM
I seriously LOL-ed at the sight of the mighty TRANSMOGRIFIER, who knows perhaps Ganishka will emerge with a propeller hat on  :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Smith on November 27, 2007, 09:13:01 AM
Speechless, one of the best in recent time


Lazy Miura didn't want to draw any more soldiers so he killed them!  :troll:.

Lol, if that is true its may not be a bad thing for us, since he draw finish faster  :chomp:

He's definitely powering himself up, but apparently there could be more to it than just that.

Since when did the episode show that some super duper monsters (beside power-up Ganishka) is bursting out from the fat blob of apostle meat?

From what i can gather reading the translation we should only be expecting a super powerful Ganishzilla coming out from the chamber, nothing else right?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 27, 2007, 09:48:51 AM
Lol, if that is true its may not be a bad thing for us, since he draw finish faster

But quality is more important than the time you have to wait for an episode, isn't it? Also, you'll be sad to hear that the actual ~200,000 soldiers that take time to draw aren't dead. Only the city's guards and familiars were killed.

Since when did the episode show that some super duper monsters (beside power-up Ganishka) is bursting out from the fat blob of apostle meat? From what i can gather reading the translation we should only be expecting a super powerful Ganishzilla coming out from the chamber, nothing else right?

It's hard to say because of the way Japanese is constructed (vague terms, no subject, etc.), but there's a notion of plural in Daiba's last line. That means there could be several creatures coming out, which the last page's art more or less corroborates. It's just a possibility that was brought up.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Smith on November 27, 2007, 10:29:45 AM

It's hard to say because of the way Japanese is constructed (vague terms, no subject, etc), but there's a notion of plural in Daiba's last line. That means there could be several creatures coming out, which the last page's art more or less corroborates. It's just a possibility that was brought up.


But how is that possible? one person going in becoming many creatures coming out?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: gh-zodd on November 27, 2007, 10:43:01 AM
its connected to "hell"/other layer or whatever you want to call it.
theres gotta be other things lurking around in there besides  :idea:

my guess would be that he will bring out a lot of spirits, maybe magic related type monsters given his magical prowess.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 27, 2007, 11:06:28 AM
its connected to "hell"/other layer or whatever you want to call it.

The term used is "astral world" in this case, which doesn't necessarily mean it's Hell (Hell referring to the Vortex of Souls specifically). If he went that deep though, even though it probably wouldn't be deep enough to reach the Idea of Evil, it could actually make him very dangerous to Griffith.

But how is that possible? one person going in becoming many creatures coming out?

Can't you read? Who knows what will come out of there, or what the process could be... Use your imagination.

Quote
Daiba - It's coming... From the depths of the astral world, an unimaginable, most malevolent something...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: yota821 on November 28, 2007, 01:48:39 AM
While in Japanese there may be enough vagueness to imply plurality, I never took notice of it, and I never thought of that when I translated that line ("an", instead of perhaps "some").  I'll stick with the singular.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Blues on November 28, 2007, 02:55:39 AM
I just can't wait to see the actual -form-. Or if there is one. My big speculation is what I mentioned earlier, some transformation that surpasses the physical "realm" (as to what it actually goes into Berserk Universe wise, MY FORTUNE TELLING FAILS ME) or might just simply be (as we've seen) a super power mist/fog that will probably kill relentlessly with no way to physically dissipate/destroy it. Well, except build a fog machine and RAVE! OH YEAH!

Nah, I actually hope its nothing like that. Hopefully Miura spent this whole summer drawing up "GANISHKA, the fucking AWESOME Dude" and Aazealh will have to change his avatar because it looks so cool/menacing/*face palm* ing?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 28, 2007, 11:14:14 PM
Just reminding you guys that volume 32 is coming out today.

(http://aazealh.net/Divers/Vol32cover-lowres.jpg)

While in Japanese there may be enough vagueness to imply plurality, I never took notice of it

Yes indeed, there is enough vagueness. That was my point, and not what you took notice of.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on November 29, 2007, 02:49:52 AM
woo!  Off to order I go!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on November 29, 2007, 02:59:08 AM
Just reminding you guys that volume 32 is coming out today.

*looks at picture, looks at wallet* Augh!   :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Jhot obs on November 29, 2007, 04:27:55 AM
Just reminding you guys that volume 32 is coming out today.

(http://aazealh.net/Divers/Vol32cover-lowres.jpg)
I'm getting that as soon as I get my paycheck  :serpico:

And some free time from finals & work.  :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on November 29, 2007, 07:59:14 AM
It'll be a while before it makes its way to the Seattle Kinokuniya bookstore, but in a couple weeks I'll start checking.  They say it usually takes about 2 months to get to their store after it comes out in Japan, but I've seen 'em get there sooner.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Slime_Beherit on November 30, 2007, 12:54:32 AM
i picked it up today, does anyone know what its talking about in the back of the manga , wheres there a pic of griffith, one of the cover and another pic thats says SECRETS :???:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on November 30, 2007, 01:10:17 AM
i picked it up today, does anyone know what its talking about in the back of the manga , wheres there a pic of griffith, one of the cover and another pic thats says SECRETS :???:

Could you get a pic of it?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on November 30, 2007, 05:26:57 AM
i picked it up today, does anyone know what its talking about in the back of the manga , wheres there a pic of griffith, one of the cover and another pic thats says SECRETS :???:

It's referring to some postcards you can win, one's featuring a "secret" drawing from Miura.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: handsome rakshas on December 05, 2007, 02:39:47 AM
Very late this time, thanks for the awesome episode!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on December 05, 2007, 06:14:34 AM
Amazingly, Kinokuniya had Vol. 32 in stock.  The poster inserts are awesome!  Can't wait to reread it! :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: JetBlack on December 06, 2007, 11:03:15 AM
Hi after some years of reading, I've decided to say hi to you all cause this is for me the best berserk community I've ever seen!
And sorry if I do it here because i don't know where to do a presentation!
Well this episode is awesome... but I read till next time... this means another long break? I hope not as always.

PS. Sorry for my English :isidro:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on December 06, 2007, 11:21:47 AM
Hi after some years of reading, I've decided to say hi to you all cause this is for me the best berserk community I've ever seen!

Welcome to SK.net :)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Ninus on December 06, 2007, 11:40:34 AM
Hello! :guts:

You know when released episode 293?

Thanks ..





Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on December 06, 2007, 12:26:03 PM
Hi after some years of reading, I've decided to say hi to you all cause this is for me the best berserk community I've ever seen!

Hey, welcome! :guts:

You know when released episode 293?

Nope, sorry.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Ninus on December 06, 2007, 12:58:54 PM
   
.. We really do not have to wait long!

We wanted so much if miura there was a Christmas gift ..





















Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Forest Wraith on December 16, 2007, 01:41:31 AM
Quote from: Black_Devil on November 22, 2007, 09:08:35 PM
I wonder what will happen to all this kooky apostle making tech he's devised? Do you guys think it'll survive Ganishka? Or disappear with him when he's put in the grinder?

Quote from: Aazealh on November 21, 2007, 10:57:51 AM
Who else is thinking the apostle-blob is going to explode when whatever's inside will emerge?

Lets see, Griffith popped out of a fist. Guts had a convoluted, symbolic uterine re-birth experience when he donned the Armor for the first time. Going by that, Miura will do something unique that matches with Ganishka's character and motivations on a symbolic level. . . . How about: Right as Griffith approaches his Apostle Yoni, Ganishka's hand will lash out covered in bloody ichor, knocking him aside for the moment and thus staining him with his hand as he swore he would?
Also note that showing Ganishka's thoughts in The Apostle Womb would be an ideal time to show a flashback on his life and experiences.   
The episode downloads seem to have expired before I could get to them but I thank you for the thought anyway.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on December 16, 2007, 01:54:34 AM
Also note that showing Ganishka's thoughts in The Apostle Womb would be an ideal time to show a flashback on his life and experiences.
An excellent thought. Man, 293 seems so far away now. Thanks a lot.

Still no word, btw, on the episode's release date.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Forest Wraith on December 16, 2007, 02:51:01 AM
An excellent thought. Man, 293 seems so far away now. Thanks a lot.

Still no word, btw, on the episode's release date.

I'm so conflicted, I Love the anticipation of new episodes, watching the story unfold almost like it's based on real-life events and I think Miura could stretch the series on almost indefinitely: But I want him to finish Berserk before I'm an old man!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on December 16, 2007, 03:19:20 AM
I'm so conflicted, I Love the anticipation of new episodes, watching the story unfold almost like it's based on real-life events and I think Miura could stretch the series on almost indefinitely: But I want him to finish Berserk before I'm an old man!
You'll get used to it after a few years  :badbone: After 7 years of following the series episode by episode, the breaks don't really bother me at all. The episodes will arrive, if somewhat delayed, and the series will end climactically when its time has come.

And after some thought, I think Ganishka will be so maddened by power (it's over 9,000!  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI)) reflecting on his past may be a little too much to ask of his mental state. Then again, this is pretty presumptuous stuff. He could be perfectly in control, I just personally doubt that will be the case, given his suicidal leap of faith into the chamber.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Forest Wraith on December 16, 2007, 06:39:14 AM
You'll get used to it after a few years  :badbone: After 7 years of following the series episode by episode, the breaks don't really bother me at all. The episodes will arrive, if somewhat delayed, and the series will end climactically when its time has come.

And after some thought, I think Ganishka will be so maddened by power (it's over 9,000!  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI)) reflecting on his past may be a little too much to ask of his mental state. Then again, this is pretty presumptuous stuff. He could be perfectly in control, I just personally doubt that will be the case, given his suicidal leap of faith into the chamber.

Well, I've been into the series for a good three years or so, so I'm already at that point when it comes to the episode breaks. With the sheer quality of work being produced, I can't feel justified with being impatient besides.
Nice by the way, I almost missed the link. I beg to differ though, the Suicidal Leap of Faith is going to make you feel really cool and rational since you've decided on a course of action: Then, your life flashes before your eyes in the seconds it takes for you to hit the ground. . . .
I'm expecting some kind of conflict to be depicted on Ganishka's end: For example, his chasing down and devouring spirits in the Vortex of Souls in order to strengthen himself while fighting against his own dissolution. To bolster his confidence, he'll start recalling his grand exploits and how he became Emperor. Maybe even catching a glimpse of The Idea while he's down there . . . Before we cut back to someone else.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on December 16, 2007, 09:43:47 AM
Lets see, Griffith popped out of a fist. Guts had a convoluted, symbolic uterine re-birth experience when he donned the Armor for the first time.

Actually, Femto popped out of a fist. Griffith came back to the world with the Egg-Apostle hatching. I'm curious what you mean regarding Guts though, where do you see that re-birth experience you're speaking of?

Apostle Yoni

Hahaha, not sure that's an adequate use of the word, but at least it made me laugh. :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on December 17, 2007, 12:35:07 AM
I agree on literary criticism being viable, and even healthy, AS LONG AS IT'S GROUNDED. And yeah, the current episode thread really is the last place I'd want discussion of this nature to occur.

That being said, I'm splitting the topic and making one to match the content:

http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=8536.0
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: alashimself on December 19, 2007, 01:29:52 PM
hey Im new here but Ive read and re read this manga (the best I have ever seen) and Im absolutely IN LOVE lol. anyways about Griffith and the aftermath of the foreshadowed destruction of Ganishka....

I think the focus of the story will switch to Guts' recovery from his wounds and the journey to Skellig island etc etc. I think we can all pretty much agree that the direction kentaro can take it from there (ie the  strory surrounding the whole group) is infinite and will make for some really interesting reading (especially training and power ups lol!!!) If anything on Griffith's side there might be a struggle between the moonlight boy and his demonic nature.

I know its kinda presumptuous but where do you guys see the story heading???
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: xfool on December 21, 2007, 05:17:39 AM
why isn't there any release date for the next episode, I dun mind waiting but they could at least gave us a date we can look forward to  :puck:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: pippin22 on December 21, 2007, 10:46:19 PM
Oh shit fellas... I got my Japanese friend to translate the box at the end of ep.292; "Series has been discontinued!"

Berserk: CANCELLED!

 :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Omega Tom Hanks on December 22, 2007, 08:04:31 AM
Oh shit fellas... I got my Japanese friend to translate the box at the end of ep.292; "Series has been discontinued!"

Berserk: CANCELLED!

 :judo:

I hate you.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Donald Shimoda on December 23, 2007, 08:18:38 AM
Oh shit fellas... I got my Japanese friend to translate the box at the end of ep.292; "Series has been discontinued!"

Berserk: CANCELLED!

 :judo:

are you serious?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on December 23, 2007, 10:49:55 AM
are you serious?

No, he's not. Did you really need to ask? :schierke:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: pippin22 on December 23, 2007, 02:06:18 PM
YES, SCORE.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on December 23, 2007, 07:15:40 PM
YES, SCORE.

I knew somebody would buy it. :ganishka:

P.S. - He's the Secretary of Misinformation for a reason ya know.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Donald Shimoda on December 24, 2007, 01:41:51 AM
No, he's not. Did you really need to ask? :schierke:

I didn't really think he was but I wanted to make sure.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: xbigvmanx on December 27, 2007, 12:22:45 AM
I don't mind the waiting either. The fact the series has a consistent writer/artist and brings out great quality in his work makes it worth the wait. When you compare his stuff to some of the American comicbooks over here they can't hold a candle to Miura-sans work. 
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on December 27, 2007, 05:39:53 AM
I don't mind the waiting either. The fact the series has a consistent writer/artist and brings out great quality in his work makes it worth the wait. When you compare his stuff to some of the American comic books over here they can't hold a candle to Miura-sans work. 

How right you are.  At first, waiting between episodes, especially over month long periods, was hard, but it gets easier as time goes on.  As you said, what's important is Miura's consistency and exceptional storytelling.  They really make waiting worth it. :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Smith on December 29, 2007, 12:19:16 PM
How right you are.  At first, waiting between episodes, especially over month long periods, was hard, but it gets easier as time goes on.  As you said, what's important is Miura's consistency and exceptional storytelling.  They really make waiting worth it. :guts:

But without any date for release can be really worrying, the last time it happen, it was half a year wait...


Anyway what i believe now is Miura is probably trying to plan out a new more powerful enemies following Ganishka i suppose, Some of us here doubt that what come out from the Apostle chamber is not going to be the empowered emperor alone...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on December 29, 2007, 01:47:48 PM
But without any date for release can be really worrying, the last time it happen, it was half a year wait...

Which was fine for me, because I was in iraq and couldn't read any Berserk.  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: dimasok on December 30, 2007, 05:13:45 AM
So how often is a new episode released? Most of the manga I read has one week, two week or at most, one month updates (and that month takes a WHILE to pass!!!!). Does Berserk take even more time than that? Last time I was prepearing to read it was I think a few months ago and by the time I finished reading it, it was still at 292 :(
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Smith on December 30, 2007, 05:53:31 AM
Last time I was prepearing to read it was I think a few months ago and by the time I finished reading it, it was still at 292 :(

292 just came out at end of november, I don't think that was a few months ago.

Berserk is a fortnight release. It's supposed to be around 2 episodes every months...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on December 30, 2007, 03:04:15 PM
So how often is a new episode released? Most of the manga I read has one week, two week or at most, one month updates (and that month takes a WHILE to pass!!!!). Does Berserk take even more time than that? Last time I was prepearing to read it was I think a few months ago and by the time I finished reading it, it was still at 292 :(
Quote from: http://skullknight.net/encyclopedia/information/index.html
BERSERK is serialized in Hakusensha's "Young Animal", a seinen magazine published twice every month.

Miura has taken a number of breaks this year, viewable here:
http://skullknight.net/images/eps.htm
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: hanafubuku on January 08, 2008, 10:14:23 AM
it was half a year wait...

Yeah... 4 month delay for 280 :judo:.  Lol, would be kinda funny if Miura decided to take 8 months to release the next one.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on January 08, 2008, 12:39:52 PM
Wow, check that out - a 4 month delay for 280!  I hope we won't have to wait that long for another release either - While it's worth the wait, that doesn't make time pass by any faster :judo:

I don't think it'll take as long, that 4 months long break was exceptional and announced in advance. My hopeful self is looking forward to a release on the 25 of this month, or maybe in early February.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Gobolatula on January 08, 2008, 07:42:30 PM
A lot of manga artists are required to bust out new releases on a regular schedule (one per week or one every other week or something)... I know that Miura used to do the every other week deal, but... Hmm...

How/why can/does he take these long breaks?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on January 08, 2008, 07:45:48 PM
A lot of manga artists are required to bust out new releases on a regular schedule (one per week or one every other week or something)... I know that Miura used to do the every other week deal, but... Hmm...

How/why can/does he take these long breaks?
Because he's an established mangaka and the main draw to the magazine Berserk is published in (Young Animal). That little factoid aside, we can't know any of the licensing/contractual agreements between him and Hakusensha or Young Animal, but his popularity over more than 10 years is sure to be a key factor in his allowance for breaks.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 08, 2008, 07:53:45 PM
I would guess he has a contract with the publisher for a certain amount of episodes, but like Walter said even if he were to fall short of that number he has such a history with that should a need for a break occur I'm sure they can work it out.

As for other mangaka, it has to be different for each but I think ALL are given breaks so they can develop their story or lay the groundwork for future releases.  Doing a series like this is grueling enough without having to make up the story on a per-episode basis.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on January 08, 2008, 09:00:41 PM
I know that Miura used to do the every other week deal, but... Hmm... How/why can/does he take these long breaks?

Ahhh, the question that comes back every time there's a break. It just never gets old.

Anyway, it's not like Miura didn't take breaks before (which to be more exact should be counted in number of YA issues skipped and not in weeks). He's just been taking more of them in the past few years (while repeatedly apologizing for it), and we had a couple of really long ones. Usually a reason is provided: it can be to develop the story, create new characters, stuff like that. Or to work on side projects, like volume covers, posters and other similar color illustrations, but also various merchandises (trading card game, video games, sculpted busts of the characters, etc). Those are the "usual" breaks, and while they mean that no episode is published, Miura still works as much as he usually does. He just does other things instead of drawing an episode. That includes the big break that lasted 4 months last year.

Then, there are the exceptional breaks, for example the time he fell ill due to overworking and had to take a rest for a while. Lastly, and that's just my guess, the fact we get more breaks nowadays is also a consequence of 15 years of working pretty much all the time with only very rare vacations. Miura's not 20 years old anymore and he probably wishes to enjoy his life a little more than he has been instead of toiling day in, day out. Not to mention that he should be careful not to excessively exhaust himself again.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 08, 2008, 09:21:49 PM
Honestly I don't see why people keep complain about him taking breaks, he works very hard to give his fans a very well made story. I'd rather he take as many breaks he thinks he should have.

Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Duststorm on January 08, 2008, 10:25:32 PM
         I guess people can't help being impatient.  I mean most episode almost always feel like cliffhangers when they come out especially this one there a lot of suspense then there is the long weeks of waiting. I guess to most people who are used to the weekly Shonen chapter release, Berserk is a real change of pace. But considering the quality of each episode it is well worth the wait.
       I am fine with Miura taking breaks and taking care of his health. I rather have him do that then him over working himself then getting seriously ill because if that happens it would take even longer for episodes to be released, that would really suck.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on January 08, 2008, 11:02:17 PM
     I rather have him do that then him over working himself then getting seriously ill because if that happens it would take even longer for episodes to be released, that would really suck.
Glad to know you have such a personal interest care in Miura's well-being :void:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 08, 2008, 11:05:47 PM
lol.  Who's gonna draw the chaptars if hez dead???

I hope he's written everything down!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 08, 2008, 11:09:52 PM
lol.  Who's gonna draw the chaptars if hez dead???

I hope he's written everything down!

I heard Masashi Kishimoto wanted to. (aka Naruto guy)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on January 08, 2008, 11:26:40 PM
I heard Masashi Kishimoto wanted to. (aka Naruto guy)

I call shenanigans! :void:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 08, 2008, 11:52:23 PM
I heard Masashi Kishimoto wanted to. (aka Naruto guy)

Oh... goody.  Then we can add 100 new characters and make causality some kind of power level-thing.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 09, 2008, 12:03:30 AM
Oh... goody.  Then we can add 100 new characters and make causality some kind of power level-thing.

Don't forget about Guts' ship crash landing on the island that Naruto lives on!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on January 09, 2008, 12:18:34 AM
E-nuff, guys. E-nuff. 5 posts of shit is just about e-nuff  :void:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on January 09, 2008, 04:29:56 AM
I didn't have anything to do with it this time!

Well, to be honest the longer the episodes take the better. I can only afford the two volumes(max) of Berserk I have to buy annually anyway :puck:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: hanafubuku on January 09, 2008, 04:59:01 AM
I didn't have anything to do with it this time!

Well, to be honest the longer the episodes take the better. I can only afford the two volumes(max) of Berserk I have to buy annually anyway :puck:

Yes, that is how considerate Miura is.  He knows how poor we are so he releases only when we can afford them beauties.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 09, 2008, 11:46:06 AM
Yes, that is how considerate Miura is.  He knows how poor we are so he releases only when we can afford them beauties.

Not to get TOO hoighty-toighty but they're only like 5-7 bucks each! 200 pages of pure awesome comes at a discount as far as I'm concerned.

the shipping costs make it around 15-20, yea, but still...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Judo on January 09, 2008, 04:17:13 PM
couldn't a general thread about the release-dates and breaks prevent the last few pages of nearly every recent episode-thread to become a discussion/whining about the long wait?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on January 09, 2008, 05:18:31 PM
couldn't a general thread about the release-dates and breaks prevent the last few pages of nearly every recent episode-thread to become a discussion/whining about the long wait?

Well, the problem is that I don't think it'd really stop people from posting in the episode threads. There have been tons of similar discussions and people don't care about them, so one more thread... Plus, it'd dignify the issue and I'm not sure that's a good thing.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Gobolatula on January 09, 2008, 05:54:40 PM
Wow. I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining or anything. I was just curious about Mr. Miura's schedule and how he's able to take these breaks and why he does it.  :schierke:

But anyway, my question's definitely been answered. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Redline736 on January 09, 2008, 09:14:26 PM
Every time Mr. Miura takes a break, I like to pretend that he is working on something big like a new video game, maybe some anime, or just a really detailed drawing for Berserk.  I would say he's going to have to draw some incredible pictures when Guts gets to Elf Hell.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: The Blue Daemon on January 09, 2008, 11:06:03 PM
Every time Mr. Miura takes a break, I like to pretend that he is working on something big like a new video game, maybe some anime, or just a really detailed drawing for Berserk.  I would say he's going to have to draw some incredible pictures when Guts gets to Elf Hell.

not to be pedantic, but it's "Elfhelm"
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on January 09, 2008, 11:27:48 PM
not to be pedantic, but it's "Elfhelm"

I'm pretty sure he was trying to make a joke in reference to what Isidro says in episodes 236 and 263.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Smith on January 10, 2008, 02:18:47 PM
I wouldnt be that much of a surprise for this break given on the last few pages of this episode (which I may have mentioned earlier)

I got a feeling next episodes onward they could be new characters, apostles races or monsters (on Ganishka side) which need careful planning to prevent Berserk from slipping into typical DBZ plots...

Ganishka definitely need a much stronger/better forces to fight againt Neo hawk, enhancing himself is not going to help much alone...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 10, 2008, 02:24:47 PM
Ganishka definitely need a much stronger/better forces to fight againt Neo hawk, enhancing himself is not going to help much alone...

Well he's forcing a transformation here of epic proportions, pretty much wiping out his forces in the city.  Who knows what he'll become?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on January 10, 2008, 02:44:03 PM
I wouldnt be that much of a surprise for this break given on the last few pages of this episode (which I may have mentioned earlier)

This is unintelligible to me.

I got a feeling next episodes onward they could be new characters, apostles races or monsters (on Ganishka side) which need careful planning to prevent Berserk from slipping into typical DBZ plots...

I wouldn't be too worried about "typical DBZ plots" if I were you. Nothing of the sort seems very likely to happen.

Ganishka definitely need a much stronger/better forces to fight againt Neo hawk, enhancing himself is not going to help much alone...

Quoting CnC: "Who knows what he'll become?" Man, this talk is exciting my curiosity and it's too early for that! I'm not pleased! :puck:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 10, 2008, 02:47:29 PM
Man, this talk is exciting my curiosity and it's too early for that! I'm not pleased! :puck:

Tell me about it.  :guts:

WAR IS DA CHAPTARR!? vhy does Miura take this breaks!  :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on January 10, 2008, 10:56:34 PM
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Who knows what he'll become?

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/shiva.jpg) (http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/godz8.wav)

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Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 10, 2008, 10:58:32 PM
ok... who ELSE knows what he'll become?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: hanafubuku on January 10, 2008, 11:24:57 PM
Quote from: smith
I wouldnt be that much of a surprise for this break given on the last few pages of this episode (which I may have mentioned earlier)

This is unintelligible to me.

It's awesome  :ganishka:

vhy does Miura take this breaks!  :troll:

He needs to don a suit of armor and then go battle demons for research on writing the next episode.  See -> :miura: look how focused he is!

Ganishka has become the Femto's stinky flatulence.  Griffith will fan it Guts way in an attempt to knock him out.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on January 10, 2008, 11:32:29 PM
ok... who ELSE knows what he'll become?

What else he'll become, you ask? =)

Well, I definitely expect some play on the form of Bhairava (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhairava) or Kali (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali) with maybe some Mahishasura (bottom right) thrown in:

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/73/204699858_493ca71adc.jpg)

There's definitely a family resemblance.

In which case, Griffith would go all Durga (top left) on him, which would become an interesting parallel if Griff ends up having griffin paws or something. I certainly also want some typical el Diablo traits, horns like Mahishasura's would do, to play up the whole Ganishka being Satan to Griffith's Messiah angle, and the look of the Daka lends hope to this.

Man, this talk is exciting my curiosity and it's too early for that! I'm not pleased! :puck:

Hope this helps! :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Smith on January 13, 2008, 01:38:25 AM
This is unintelligible to me.

Well what i am trying to say was... Given the extent of suspense it leaves at the end of 292 (Like something huge/powerful is approaching), I am not surprised at all what follow next would be a big break...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Omega Tom Hanks on January 13, 2008, 06:34:59 PM
I'm thinking Ganishka is becoming more of a (Super Apostle) well more so than he was and I think it will honestly put Griffith's new power to test. So for us fans we will finally see what his new body is capable of, if anything at all. (Lets hope it isn't anticlimactic and he is just a human again who commands enormous respect and political power)  :miura:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on January 13, 2008, 08:19:33 PM
Lets hope it isn't anticlimactic and he is just a human again who commands enormous respect and political power)  :miura:
...with the ability to dodge arrows, use super-speed, summon spirits of the dead, and, ya know, summon a giant wind. But those are just DETAILS  :carcus:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Mage on January 14, 2008, 02:50:34 AM
Once Ganishka is toppled, I wonder what Daiba (should he survive) or Silat will do.  I'm assuming the Kushan soldiers will just get assimilated into Griffith's army, but I don't think those two would follow suit.  Actually, I also wonder if Griffith will force Ganishka into submission rather than kill him and sick him on Elfhelm or something, too.  That would finally provide a scenario for my Silat-joins-Guts'-party hope :carcus:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 14, 2008, 03:18:06 AM
I'm assuming the Kushan soldiers will just get assimilated into Griffith's army,

I'm pretty sure the ones that are still alive will get killed in the upcoming battle. Unless some how they survive

Quote
Actually, I also wonder if Griffith will force Ganishka into submission rather than kill him and sick him on Elfhelm .

I can't see why Griffith won't kill him or if Ganishka would submit to Griffith. Even if he wanted to it's probably past the point of no return for him.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on January 14, 2008, 03:41:12 AM
Bob nailed the other issue with your post, Mage, so...


That would finally provide a scenario for my Silat-joins-Guts'-party hope.


While I can see it happening in a "I don't wanna join you, but.." situation, I can't see it coming about from the above scenario.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on January 14, 2008, 09:52:36 AM
Once Ganishka is toppled, I wonder what Daiba (should he survive) or Silat will do.

Well, the two of them are in very different situations. Daiba seems to be Ganishka's second in command, while Silat's loyalty appears to be extremely fragile, if not completely inexistent at this point. I think Daiba will probably die alongside his master, the real question being: how and when? I could see Ganishka slaying him by inadvertence after his transformation, or he could fall pray to an apostle (for some reason I think Rakshas would fit the part nicely).

Silat, on the other hand, is more likely to act as an observer in this case, like he has been doing so far. I think he will see the fall of Ganishka and the rise of Griffith, probably along with things he wasn't supposed to. He'll try to avoid the battle, and then he'll flee and will live to talk about what he's seen. His main concern has always been the survival of his clan, and I believe he'll act for its best interest once again, detaching himself from the Kushan empire for a while.

I would love him to join Guts' group, but I don't think it's going to happen (at least for now). He's more some kind of third party to me, forming his own group with their own goals. Taking that into account, I do think he'll eventually try something against Griffith, because he seems to realize he's a malevolent being (beyond just being a foreign enemy). And when he does, his path will surely cross Guts'.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Omega Tom Hanks on January 14, 2008, 02:49:52 PM
Yeah I see :daiba: if he in fact does fall in this upcoming battle, die at the hands of Rakshas, IDK why but it seems perfect. I just hope if that is the case we get to see what Rakshas is really capable of. For that matter Ive been wanting to see what Irvine is capable of also well as in a apostle form I mean.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Ramen4ever on January 14, 2008, 08:08:07 PM
^
I just hope Irvine doesn't transform into an apostle Ballista. :ganishka:
Sorry, couldn't help myself. Anyway I'm really looking forward to what Rakshas and Irvine's apostle forms look like.
Although Ganishka's new form takes priority.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Omega Tom Hanks on January 15, 2008, 12:29:51 AM
Not trying to go off topic but has Young Animal released a...release date on the next episode?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on January 15, 2008, 12:52:46 AM
These threads are cyclical, like Causality! :void:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: jackson_hurley on January 15, 2008, 01:43:35 AM
These threads are cyclical, like Causality! :void:

The spiral of the eternal question, i guess! hehe
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Omega Tom Hanks on January 15, 2008, 04:54:36 PM
Do you think what ever comes out of that pool of :idea: Will rival the powers of a Godhand? or Griffth?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on January 15, 2008, 06:23:08 PM
Do you think what ever comes out of that pool of :idea: Will rival the powers of a Godhand? or Griffth?

I know it's fun to use emoticons to replace words, but in this case it just doesn't make much sense. Whatever's coming, it's from "the bottom of the astral world," that much we know. However, the term is a bit vague in the context IMHO, I find it hard to know for sure whether it refers to the bottom of the Abyss (where the Idea of Evil dwells) or to somewhere more... "accessible." The part of the astral world that borders the Vortex of Souls, for example. That's a place a spirit could supposedly go to and return from, while anything past the Vortex has so far been considered a point of no return (unless summoned there by a greater power).

Anyway, to answer your question, the Idea of Evil is what gives the God Hand their power, so if Ganishka has somehow reached It and managed to drain power from there, it's possible that he could rival a member of the God Hand. But that idea poses a few problems. For example, we know that members of the God Hand can only exist as immaterial beings unless they are incarnated during a ceremony that only happens once in a thousand years. There is also the problem of the Idea of Evil's will. Would it let Ganishka just come to it and leech power to fight against Griffith? That's a little hard to believe. Not to mention that the other members of the God Hand might be able (and willing) to intervene as well. And is Ganishka's hellish cauldron powerful enough to send him all the way down there in the first place?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Omega Tom Hanks on January 15, 2008, 06:58:18 PM
Good point. Its all speculation right now so anything goes. Now we must play the waiting game. Though I think it would be fun to see Super demons battling it out for the control of Midland.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Marik on January 15, 2008, 07:42:44 PM
I think the Idea of Evil envelops the spirit of the choosen one with a protection in order to allow him to reach its core, and to drain the final power.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think that for a common apostle, to dive in the Vortex would be bad since he could be trapped and absorbed. I find that is the same for Ganishka, meaning that he may not be able to reach the Idea's core without being absorbed by the Vortex.

I agree with Aazealh, finding more correct a deeper part of the nexus, bordering the vortex.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on January 15, 2008, 07:53:02 PM
I agree with Aazealh, finding more correct a deeper part of the nexus, bordering the vortex.
I believe the Nexus is just a temporal location that exists only during sacrificial ceremonies. It's not a set dimension, it's a rift between two planes of existence. It's just where the God Hand and humans "meet" during those ceremonies.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Marik on January 15, 2008, 07:59:45 PM
I believe the Nexus is just a temporal location that exists only during sacrificial ceremonies. It's not a set dimension, it's a rift between two planes of existence. It's just where the God Hand and humans "meet" during those ceremonies.

Ah Ok  :serpico: I had misunderstood the term nexus.

Anyway I was referring to the intermediate plane (the deeper part I guess, that's on the edge of the Vortex) where lies angels and demons and the gods of polytheistic religions.

Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on January 15, 2008, 08:25:58 PM
I think it would be fun to see Super demons battling it out for the control of Midland.

Well, it's probably going to be more subtle than "Super Demons", but I'm sure it'll be pretty cool nevertheless. :zodd:

I think the Idea of Evil envelops the spirit of the choosen one with a protection in order to allow him to reach its core, and to drain the final power.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think that for a common apostle, to dive in the Vortex would be bad since he could be trapped and absorbed. I find that is the same for Ganishka, meaning that he may not be able to reach the Idea's core without being absorbed by the Vortex.

Whether it's directly the Idea of Evil or something more complex (a combination of different factors), I also think that there is a need for it to be sanctioned somehow. And yeah, an apostle getting too close from the Vortex of Souls (don't ask me how it'd happen) would probably be taking risks. But beyond that, to recall Flora's words, I think that anyone delving too deep without a protection of some sort would just be crushed by the immense powers at work there; they'd be dissolved and lose their ego or something similar.

Anyway I was referring to the intermediate plane (the deeper part I guess, that's on the edge of the Vortex) where lies angels and demons and the gods of polytheistic religions.

There's no specific name for it, but it's basically the deep end of the astral world (but before the Vortex of Souls), like you said. I wouldn't call it an "intermediate plane" though.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on January 16, 2008, 12:32:25 AM
Super Ganishka laughs at all of you & your speculative astral jargon, for he shall decide what is and isn't, he is the alpha and omega! :ganishka:

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/ganishkaapostle2.jpg)

Anyway, thought I'd do a quick update to the previous Ganishka as Diablo image (http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/GanishkaApostle.jpg), now with double the arms!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 16, 2008, 12:40:32 AM
I just want to say that's fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 16, 2008, 12:51:13 AM
pssshh..  and you can't update your thread in Creation station WHY, again?  :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Omega Tom Hanks on January 16, 2008, 01:17:47 AM
I was expecting a more solid form in what ever he comes out looking like. Like a cross between Ganishka and Buddha or something. I think Ganishka might throw out the whole cloud form seeings how subseptable he was to..........wind.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on January 16, 2008, 01:23:12 AM
pssshh..  and you can't update your thread in Creation station WHY, again?  :troll:

This is more an academic exercise using Diablo II artwork than anything creative. :troll:

I was expecting a more solid form in what ever he comes out looking like. Like a cross between Ganishka and Buddha or something. I think Ganishka might throw out the whole cloud form seeings how subseptable he was to..........wind.  :ganishka:

Maybe he'll turn into a demonic form of Ganesha! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesha) :ganishka:


Booya, managed to legitly double up each quoted emoticon. =)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: dimasok on January 16, 2008, 04:44:30 AM
Imagine that Ganishka gets swallowed up into the vortex (probably on the Idea of Evil plane) and... dissipate together with whatever form he wished to attain. What an anti-climactic ending it would be :)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Smith on January 16, 2008, 10:22:48 AM
Imagine that Ganishka gets swallowed up into the vortex (probably on the Idea of Evil plane) and... dissipate together with whatever form he wished to attain. What an anti-climactic ending it would be :)

And that wouldnt serve Griffith goal? Would it? :)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on January 22, 2008, 12:47:58 PM
Is it just me who sees a badger in that Ganishka-Diablo hellspawn?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Omega Tom Hanks on January 22, 2008, 04:36:59 PM
I just hope he doesnt go all Tetsuo on us from the Akira movie. I rather not like blobs. :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on January 22, 2008, 06:07:27 PM
Is it just me who sees a badger in that Ganishka-Diablo hellspawn?

Nope, there's definitely a rodent-like feature to him there.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on January 22, 2008, 06:25:49 PM
They aren't rodents.

I'll thank you not to talk down about badgers like that.

But you're right that it does share some resemblance with the rattustriceratops minor.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: crazyfuck on January 27, 2008, 05:54:08 AM
i'm probably asking the wrong question for the wrong thread or part of the forum but dose anybody have any sort of idea when the next episode thing comes out? cus i just read like the entire series in the course of like a week and i REALLY want more
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Ramen4ever on January 27, 2008, 06:18:03 AM
^
Well seeing as how there is no special preview for episode 293 in the Berserk corner of Young Animals website, I'd say your in for a bit of a wait.

http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/

Then again I don't read Japanese.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on January 27, 2008, 09:02:59 AM
No date has been announced yet.

i just read like the entire series in the course of like a week and i REALLY want more

Yeah? Well you REALLY won't get more anytime soon. It's time for some re-reading I guess.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Omega Tom Hanks on January 27, 2008, 10:09:01 PM
No date has been announced yet.

Yeah? Well you REALLY won't get more anytime soon. It's time for some re-reading I guess.

Re-reading vol 11 and 26-27 is always fun. Though I tend to re-read the last 5 episodes to keep me up to date on such brakes as these. Though with them you know something bad ass is gonna be released
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: crazyfuck on January 28, 2008, 05:23:06 AM
No date has been announced yet.

Yeah? Well you REALLY won't get more anytime soon. It's time for some re-reading I guess.


wassup with the hostility i'm feeling, i'm sorry if i didn't do something right, just wanted to know if anybody knew  :schierke:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on January 28, 2008, 07:24:56 AM
wassup with the hostility i'm feeling, i'm sorry if i didn't do something right, just wanted to know if anybody knew  :schierke:

Like the other people that asked and were answered before you. :schierke:

No hard feelings.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on January 28, 2008, 12:42:23 PM
BTW, before anybody asks, the next episode won't be in the next YA, so there's at least a 2 weeks break.


Hello! :guts:

You know when released episode 293?

Thanks ..

why isn't there any release date for the next episode, I dun mind waiting but they could at least gave us a date we can look forward to  :puck:

Not trying to go off topic but has Young Animal released a...release date on the next episode?

i'm probably asking the wrong question for the wrong thread or part of the forum but dose anybody have any sort of idea when the next episode thing comes out? cus i just read like the entire series in the course of like a week and i REALLY want more

Yeah... we're all pretty much sick of this question for the above reasons.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on January 28, 2008, 04:20:13 PM
wassup with the hostility i'm feeling

Maybe people wouldn't get irritated at you if you read the thread before posting in it. That way you would have known that your question had already been asked (and answered) four times.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 28, 2008, 05:48:53 PM
Maybe people wouldn't get irritated at you if you read the thread before posting in it. That way you would have known that your question had already been asked (and answered) four times.

HEY DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE NEXT CHAPTER IS COMING OUT?!?! MIURA OWES ME BIG TIME!@@!!  :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: crazyfuck on January 28, 2008, 06:02:06 PM
heh ehhhh guess i kinda forgot to think that far ahead and see if anybody else had asked, my apologies
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on January 28, 2008, 06:18:44 PM
What about this week?

Surely there's a chance for the new episode, ne?!

Maybe this thread should be locked until the new one comes out -- just a suggestion.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: ironman on January 29, 2008, 06:33:13 PM
I am experiencing withdrawals.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on January 29, 2008, 11:08:19 PM
I am experiencing withdrawals.
I think we all are in varying degrees. I know I was feeling some pangs for Berserk a few days ago, and I just re-read through the past 20 or so eps. I was satiated ... for now. But the new ep will come and it'll be awesome. We've certainly waited longer before  :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 29, 2008, 11:51:32 PM
We've certainly waited longer before  :judo:

Don't jinx it  :void:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: jackson_hurley on January 30, 2008, 01:50:39 AM
and I just reread through the past 20 or so

I'm actually doing that right now so i can be up to date with vol 21 that I'm gonna get Friday.

Back to topic, cant wait to see what Ganishka will turn out to be when he comes out from euh the machine that gives birth to dakas  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on January 30, 2008, 09:08:56 AM
Heya all, its been awhile but my good contact in Tokyo just gave me the scoop.

SPOILERS AHOY!

Ganishka has traveled far enough into the vortex and comes in contact with Ubik and Conrad. They are surprised that an apostle has managed to make its way into their territory. Ganishka promises he will take down Griffith and then make his way back to take care of them. As Ganishka leaves he whistled for a cab and when it came near the License plate said fresh and had a dice in the mirror If anything I could say that this cab was rare But I thought now forget it, yo home to bel-air I pulled up to a house about seven or eight
And I yelled to the cabby yo, home smell you later Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To settle my throne as the prince of bel-air.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 30, 2008, 11:51:35 AM

that never ceases to be hilarious  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on January 30, 2008, 12:43:13 PM
It's the new Rick roll.

But why would he need a cab when he can float about?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 30, 2008, 12:49:56 PM
Daiba = Jazzy Jeff?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Ramen4ever on January 30, 2008, 04:38:10 PM
I couldn't have asked for a better way to start off my day!
Thx Saiya, you're my hero! :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on January 30, 2008, 05:25:40 PM
Haha, that made my day, Saiya. :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on January 30, 2008, 09:34:45 PM
Heya all, its been awhile but my good contact in Tokyo just gave me the scoop.

SPOILERS AHOY!

Ganishka has traveled far enough into the vortex and comes in contact with Ubik and Conrad. They are surprised that an apostle has managed to make its way into their territory. Ganishka promises he will take down Griffith and then make his way back to take care of them. As Ganishka leaves he whistled for a cab and when it came near the License plate said fresh and had a dice in the mirror If anything I could say that this cab was rare But I thought now forget it, yo home to bel-air I pulled up to a house about seven or eight
And I yelled to the cabby yo, home smell you later Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To settle my throne as the prince of bel-air.


so wait, when did he say this episode wood be releesed? :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on January 30, 2008, 10:12:23 PM
so wait, when did he say this episode wood be releesed? :judo:

chapter
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on January 30, 2008, 11:04:29 PM
I had that originally but it sounded funnier with "episode." =)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Death May Die on February 02, 2008, 02:59:54 AM
I think I'm getting cabin fever waiting for this next EPISODE.  :zodd:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on February 02, 2008, 03:27:53 AM
I think I'm getting cabin fever waiting for this next chapter.  :zodd:

episode  :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Guтs on February 02, 2008, 09:03:12 PM
Haha, we're on to a 3 month wait minimum now since it won't be published in the February 8th issue of YA. So end of February... Early March at most (hopefully). It has been since November 20th I think (Episode 292), so we're slolwy creeping up on our longest 4 month wait yet  :guts:

Ill just go buy the next Darkhorse volumes, up to Volume 11 now.  :carcus: should keep me satisfied for.. another month  :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on February 03, 2008, 04:33:41 AM
"Bide your time and hold out hope..."

I'm still guessing we will see something this month. February hasn't been a dry season in Berserk so far as I can remember.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Guтs on February 04, 2008, 01:04:09 AM
Well for February... no Berserk has been announced for February 8th and young animal being bi-weekly means if there is to be Berserk this month, the 22nd would be the release date... but we have recieved no information on this yet so.. its still quite possible we will wait for another 2 weeks until March! :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 04, 2008, 07:52:10 AM
young animal being bi-weekly

It's semi-monthly, not bi-weekly. And yes, there is a difference.

if there is to be Berserk this month, the 22nd would be the release date... but we have recieved no information on this yet so..

That doesn't mean anything, though. We don't necessarily get news over a month in advance.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: flagawax on February 04, 2008, 09:50:22 AM
 .... Oh my god Kentaro Miura isn't funny ... I'm gonna be crazy ... I began to eat the first berserk volume .... :isidro: ..... to be continued ?!!....
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Tuco_godguns on February 04, 2008, 10:42:14 AM
Can't sleep Zodd will eat me...
Can't sleep Zodd will eat me...
Can't sleep Zodd will eat me...

 :zodd:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Guтs on February 04, 2008, 05:13:14 PM
It's semi-monthly, not bi-weekly. And yes, there is a difference.

Yeah that's what I meant, I messed up on my words there. It comes out twice a month is what I meant... dont know why I wrote twice a week.


Point is, we still don't know if the 22nd there will be a release. Chances are we will, I'd say about 50% since by then it would have been 3 months since the last episode release. No information on a break this long came out either so I doubt it can carry on for much longer. BUT this is Berserk we are talking about, and there have been many long(er) breaks in the past. We might not get information a month in advance all the time, but most of the time we did. Like episode 288 was released July 27th and in that issue we had a release date of September 14th for 289 (just an example but I know what you mean). Besides it wouldn't really be a month in advance, more like.. 18 something days until the 22nd so usually we get some sort of information on unmentioned release dates in the episodes something like 1-2 weeks in advance. I just hope to see the good news on here soon. I think all Berserk fans can't wait for the next episode.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on February 04, 2008, 05:19:12 PM
Point is, we still don't know if the 22nd there will be a release. Chances are we will, I'd say about 50% since by then it would have been 3 months since the last episode release. No information on a break this long came out either so I doubt it can carry on for much longer. BUT this is Berserk we are talking about, and there have been many long(er) breaks in the past. We might not get information a month in advance all the time, but most of the time we did. Like episode 288 was released July 27th and in that issue we had a release date of September 14th for 289 (just an example but I know what you mean). Besides it wouldn't really be a month in advance, more like.. 18 something days until the 22nd so usually we get some sort of information on unmentioned release dates in the episodes something like 1-2 weeks in advance. I just hope to see the good news on here soon. I think all Berserk fans can't wait for the next episode.

A simple "I don't know when the episode will be released" would have sufficed.  No need to break out percentages or go on at length about nothing :guts:.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on February 04, 2008, 05:36:39 PM
I'm going to type this in MIRC spiel so only a select few will understand me.

/me wishes this thread would be locked until the next episode comes out.

It was a little technical for some of you ingrates, but I know one of the powers that be can translate my internet hieroglyphics.

Edit - Holy shit Wally; you built a feature like that in?!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on February 04, 2008, 05:41:11 PM
/me wishes this thread would be locked until the next episode comes out.

It was a little technical for some of you ingrates, but I know one of the powers that be can translate my internet hieroglyphics.

Edit - Holy shit Wally; you built a feature like that in?!
/me slaps Uriel with a large trout.

I didn't do it. The guys who made YabbSE/SMF forums did it.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on February 04, 2008, 05:44:46 PM
Fantastic!

Never switch to vBulletin, man.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 05, 2008, 08:13:28 AM
this is Berserk we are talking about, and there have been many long(er) breaks in the past.

Well, there haven't been many breaks lasting for over 10 weeks in the past. Just a couple, really. We're living troubled times. :SK:

We might not get information a month in advance all the time, but most of the time we did. Like episode 288 was released July 27th and in that issue we had a release date of September 14th for 289

Yeah but that's different from the present case, where the break didn't have a pre-planned duration. We may learn about the next episode release in YA directly relating to the next issue (it could be 3 issues in advance as well, but the point is that nothing is sure). Honestly if I were you I wouldn't try to analyze it too much, I don't think there's a rule these things follow. Just buy the 10 DH volumes you're missing in the meantime. :guts:

Fantastic!

Never switch to vBulletin, man.

Hahaha, like we'd ever do that.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Guтs on February 05, 2008, 08:36:36 PM
I'm gonna buy the later DarkHorse mangas, what is there a Berserk fan can do more then pruchase the material? But yeah 2007 and (early) 2008 has been a slow time for Berserk.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on February 05, 2008, 08:38:32 PM
what is there a Berserk fan can do more then pruchase the material?

Start drawing the manga yourself.  There just so happens to be a "Station" which welcomes the "Creation" of artistic works!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Okin on February 06, 2008, 12:45:28 AM
Well look at it this way: Since we're suffering from Berserk relapse, the fight scenes in the epic battle between Griffith and Super :ganishka: will look all the more epic!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Guтs on February 06, 2008, 01:41:35 AM
Start drawing the manga yourself.  There just so happens to be a "Station" which welcomes the "Creation" of artistic works!

For those who have the artistic talent... maybe so.

Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on February 06, 2008, 02:00:38 AM
For those who have the artistic talent... maybe so.



Gotta start somewhere!  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Smith on February 06, 2008, 06:51:20 AM
For those who have the artistic talent... maybe so.

If I had that talent I would have started continuing the story myself... Of course this personalised version would be kept for me and myself only haha...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 06, 2008, 08:07:25 AM
If I had that talent I would have started continuing the story myself... Of course this personalised version would be kept for me and myself only haha...

Thank God, I wouldn't want to be exposed to something like that.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: handsome rakshas on February 06, 2008, 07:48:50 PM
Wow, seeing all the activity in this thread I thought the new episode was out. Thanks for building up my hopes and crushing them so swiftly guys!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on February 06, 2008, 08:46:40 PM
Wow, seeing all the activity in this thread I thought the new episode was out. Thanks for building up my hopes and crushing them so swiftly guys!
We aim to please.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on February 07, 2008, 01:09:29 AM
Wow, seeing all the activity in this thread I thought the new episode was out.
Wouldn't the activity be in an Episode 293 thread then?  :???:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on February 07, 2008, 01:32:56 AM
Well, you're all welcome to post in the Vagabond Inn (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?board=37.0), there's been 2 episodes, going on 3, out in the last week there; so, maybe our energy would be better spent posting there as well, where there's something to post about? I don't know, just an idea I'm throwing out there. =)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Tanma on February 07, 2008, 01:38:52 AM
It will be out soon, guys.  :puck:

Anyway, if I were japanese, I would boycott Young Animal. Things only change if it hurts in the pocket.  :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Nonsapient on February 07, 2008, 01:41:15 AM
It will be out soon, guys.  :puck:

Anyway, if I were japanese, I would boycott Young Animal. Things only change if it hurts in the pocket.  :troll:

I thought these "delays" were due to Miura.
I wouldn't want to hurt HIS pocket book.  That can only hurt the quality of the manga.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on February 07, 2008, 02:19:15 AM
Anyway, if I were japanese, I would boycott Young Animal. Things only change if it hurts in the pocket.  :troll:

I'm gonna go under the assumption your purposely being retarded
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Tanma on February 07, 2008, 02:25:41 AM
Nah, this is a capitalist world. Seeing from a non-fanatic perspective, that's it.

Three-four weeks to do every episode is ok, but 3 months without giving any information about what's going on is a disrespect for the consumer, and that's what people who buy YA are in fact.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on February 07, 2008, 02:45:31 AM
Nah, this is a capitalist world. Seeing from a non-fanatic perspective, that's it.

Three-four weeks to do every episode is ok, but 3 months without giving any information about what's going on is a disrespect for the consumer, and that's what people who buy YA are in fact.

You don't buy YA (instead relying on others who do to post them for free), and therefore really have no say in the matter.

Consider that we know nothing of Miura's obligation to release episodes, for all we know he could get paid by the episode and therefore is under no real obligation to release them at all until he feels they're done.  A boycott of the publisher would be a pointless as your whining.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on February 07, 2008, 02:59:22 AM
You don't buy YA (instead relying on others who do to post them for free), and therefore really have no say in the matter.

Consider that we know nothing of Miura's obligation to release episodes, for all we know he could get paid by the episode and therefore is under no real obligation to release them at all until he feels they're done.  A boycott of the publisher would be a pointless as your whining.
I think you fail to understand that all residents of the internet know about big business and publications CnC. You need to sit back and learn a few things.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on February 07, 2008, 03:03:46 AM
I think you fail to understand that all residents of the internet know about big business and publications CnC. You need to sit back and learn a few things.

Ah yes, of course.  I forgot the rules of the internet.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Guтs on February 07, 2008, 07:24:21 AM
Anyways, rules of the internet or not.. who gives a shit? Easiest thing to do is not reply to such comments thus leaving them in their own little world called belly-button.

About all this buying YA stuff, I think many would buy it if they read Japanese (BAHAHAHAH sure they would) but I know I wouldn't buy it if I couldn't understand wtf it was saying. Everyone on this board SHOULD be buying the DarkHorse mangas though! I only started recently but I knew I would eventually when financially I was more then stable! Btw... is it just me or starting from DH Volume 13 or so those sfx things kinda get in the way? It gets better right? (someone mentioned it was fixed later on but... yeah I wanna know for sure). Got to say the quality from the mangas themselves... are fucking gorgeous, I can scan the pictures I like too and make some nice little MSN display Pictures ;D.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on February 07, 2008, 07:44:33 AM
Anyways, rules of the internet or not.. who gives a shit? Easiest thing to do is not reply to such comments thus leaving them in their own little world called belly-button.
Well not replying would work if the majority of people could get the hint that when the question isn't answered the first time, it probably wont be answered the 2nd or 3rd, but shit, its the god damn internet. Everyone thinks they are a god damn unique beautiful snowflake and no one could POSSIBLY have asked the question they want to ask, so fuck reading the first 4 pages of a thread, let me ask the magical question guys....

"Has the date of new episode been released guys?"

So thus if we don't reply with smart ass hateful remarks, other people will think its "O.K." to ask the same god damn question instead of doing a bit of looking before they hit the reply button.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on February 07, 2008, 08:11:39 AM
Worst. Thread. Ever. Anyway, I imagine people that buy YA to read Berserk already don't buy it when Berserk isn't in it, so an official strike probably wouldn't be necessary or have much impact. =)

Also, we're officially at the point where we're complaining about people complaining about the people complaining, so let's stop here before someone complains about my complaining and we officially reach five degrees of complaining. :void:

And Guts[LCF], the DH volumes do get better.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on February 07, 2008, 08:53:55 AM
http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2407972 (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2407972)  :troll:

Anyways, I am hoping for a quick Ganishka flash back on his rise to being the ultimate sacrifice for Griffith.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 07, 2008, 08:59:37 AM
Anyway, if I were japanese, I would boycott Young Animal. Things only change if it hurts in the pocket.  :troll:

I don't think you understand how things work. You can be sure that if the editors at Young Animal could have Berserk published in every issue, they would. They'd probably pay a lot of money to guarantee it, too. Like Griffith said, it's not like people buy YA regardless of whether Berserk is in it or not. On the other hand, no monetary considerations of any kind are likely to be able to force the author to change his work schedule. He doesn't work because he needs money to live. Not to mention that you don't even know why the publication's halted in the first place.

Anyway, those discussions are redundant, boring and fruitless, and I'm not too fond of people inviting the state of mind of "I'm reading but not buying because [insert any excuse here]," so let's please try to move back to talking about the episodes themselves and what will happen next in the story. Otherwise we might as well lock the thread.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Judo on February 07, 2008, 03:39:26 PM
Everyone on this board SHOULD be buying the DarkHorse mangas though!

i rather stick with the panini-edition in my mother-tongue... thanks.
possessing every volume twice would be a bit too fanboyish for my taste an too demanding for my wallet.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Guтs on February 07, 2008, 05:31:13 PM
Judo, obviously I was just stating that we should be buying the mangas at all, seeming the majority of the people here speak english so I mentioned DarkHorse. If you can get it in your native language than good for you. You possibly already knew what I meant but decided answering with a smart-ass comment instead, congratulations on a new level of internet awesomeness.

Alright anyways, back to the topic at hand!

I don't know if its been mentioned and I read the whole topic a while back but, I noticed a pretty big similarity between the Idea and the Reincarnator.

Alright, this is the Idea from the Lost Episode in Volume 13 where Griffith communicates with the Idea itself.

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh256/GutsLCF/Idea.jpg)

And then we have Ganishkas Reincarnator, the reincarnator in general doesn't look like a floating piece of heart but... this is strikingly similar.

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh256/GutsLCF/Reincarnator.jpg)


Any thoughts on what this could mean? I also highly doubt this is a coincidence... seeming we aren't suppose to know about the Lost Episode either, I mean how did Ganishka succeed to create his own 'Idea' or the power of 'Idea' in a smaller dose? Theres obviously a connection, so how and where did he find this power or the magical arts to create... which could mean Idea isn't just the counscious of mankind but also the work of something else, just a speculation really... but what do you guys think?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 07, 2008, 05:52:37 PM
I don't know if its been mentioned and I read the whole topic a while back but, I noticed a pretty big similarity between the Idea and the Reincarnator.

I think it was, yeah. We didn't just discover it in the latest episode. Also, the what? Reincarnator? Did you just come up with this name? Because it's not accurate and I wouldn't use it if I were you. It just invites confusion, since we've got a pretty specific meaning for the concept of Incarnation (referring to Griffith).

Any thoughts on what this could mean? I also highly doubt this is a coincidence... seeming we aren't suppose to know about the Lost Episode either, I mean how did Ganishka succeed to create his own 'Idea' or the power of 'Idea' in a smaller dose?

That construct doesn't replicate the power of the Idea of Evil, it replicates the power of a beherit. It really can't be compared. Honestly, I think the similarity is mostly just visual, despite its coolness. It could be more since the two are distantly related, but so far nothing has hinted at it.

which could mean Idea isn't just the counscious of mankind but also the work of something else, just a speculation really... but what do you guys think?

Well, either you don't consider episode 83 canon and then the Idea of Evil is merely the God of Berserk, about which we know next to nothing, or you take it into account, and then I'll just quote it:

Quote
An ocean of feelings all humans have deep in their souls
A common consciousness that transcends individuality
Their collective consciousness
Its dark side is this swelling ocean
I was born from these swells
As the ego of this world

This world itself is I
The darkness that dwells in every human heart
The Idea of Evil
This is God

Leaves little to the imagination I think.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Guтs on February 07, 2008, 06:47:53 PM
I believe 83 to be canon, it was removed because Miura thought it revealed too much information too soon, thus making it quite plausible.

Yeah the Beherit thing is true, its more like he created his own beherit but it's safe to assume that Beherits are all connected to Idea itself. Agreed on the fact that nothing has been hinted to the fact that Ganishka's Daka creating machine has even anything related to Idea, but the fact that it looks anything like Idea can be speculated about, I think we can agree that Miura usually doesn't make coincidences just so something looks cool though. We have no information really on this Ganishka machine besides the way it works, but how it was created... we know its magically infused with those Kushan wizards but how can wizardry create something as powerful as a Beherit (considered to be the most powerful object in Berserk existance, a lesser power shouldn't be able to create something like Beherit). Besides the end of episode 292 looks somewhat like Idea (the form, obviously it could be anything but it comes from deep into the spirit realm, so has he made contact with Idea or?) I know about how Idea was created and what was said, but maybe theres more to it. If all humans were to think about cake, would it create a cake? Bad example, but you get what I mean, souls are a lot deeper then human counsciousness for sure but just our deeper parts of our soul (darkness etc) would create a God? I always thought there was a bit more to the creation of Idea then the collective counscious and souls of humankind. Some sort of outer power that with all this unseen human energy (counscious and soul) could make something like that. I guess you could argue about the Big Bang theory (having nothing to do with Berserk obviously), energy just swelling up and then one day creating what we know as Earth, Stars, Solar Systems, Galaxies etc... so wondering where all the focus of this energy went, how did it get there and create Idea, form itself and was it able to do all this on its own etc... but yeah I'm probably wrong about all this, just throwing ideas out there.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 07, 2008, 10:43:37 PM
I believe 83 to be canon, it was removed because Miura thought it revealed too much information too soon, thus making it quite plausible.

That was over ten years ago though. The finer details may have changed significantly.

Yeah the Beherit thing is true, its more like he created his own beherit but it's safe to assume that Beherits are all connected to Idea itself.

We know beherits come from very deep within the spiritual world, but while it wouldn't be too surprising, nothing proves they're directly connected to the Idea of Evil itself. We actually don't know much about their creation, what we see during the Occultation ceremony is pretty vague (Griffith's tears making ripples that send beherits up).

the fact it looks anything like Idea can be speculated about, I think we can agree that Miura usually doesn't make coincidences just so something looks cool though.

I don't know, it depends I think. And it's more like some parts of that thing look like some parts of the Idea of Evil. If you look at both entities in their entirety, they're not alike at all (and the orifices aren't situated similarly either).

We have no information really on this Ganishka machine besides the way it works, but how it was created... we know its magically infused with those Kushan wizards but how can wizardry create something as powerful as a Beherit

What are you talking about? It was obviously created by capturing and stitching many apostles together. It can be clearly seen when you look at it. They are the link to the astral world. The Kushan casters we see aren't powering it, they're more probably just maintaining it active by relaying Ganishka's power to it, or exerting some sort of control on it to keep it stable. It doesn't seem to be very different from the way they control familiars.

Besides the end of episode 292 looks somewhat like Idea

I don't think it really looks like it to be honest. I can see why you're reminded of the Idea of Evil, but when looking closely it just doesn't match.

If all humans were to think about cake, would it create a cake? Bad example, but you get what I mean, souls are a lot deeper then human counsciousness for sure but just our deeper parts of our soul (darkness etc) would create a God? I always thought there was a bit more to the creation of Idea then the collective counscious and souls of humankind.

Well, I get your example but I don't think it's very pertinent, nor makes for a good point. You're free to believe what you want though, even if that goes against what the Idea of Evil said about Its own creation.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Guтs on February 08, 2008, 01:26:06 AM
Yeah I agree that its a FAR stretch and goes against what Idea has said in the first place but like you said it was ten years ago and the finer details might change significantly... and technically that Lost Episode shouldnt be there... but it could be possible that Idea's design would not change. And I wonder why they would bother to even show those tentacle things if... they were just for cosmetic purposes.

I know what you mean by Idea not looking like the Daka Creator, but we have only seen those types of "tentacles" in two areas. One which is Idea and the other being Ganishka's Daka machine. When both were "reincarnating"/"demonizing" (just to use those terms) they were both spewing out "air" like that, which is a similarity nonethless. I agree that the overall design of both do not look anything alike. I just have a hard time of letting it go as just a mere coincidence.

Ganishka might be usurping power from Idea itself to attain a more powerful form. He might not be getting God's power but more like stealing it. Again just speculation with what I've noticed and other people said. I don't know really, I think its an interesting possibility, but if I was to go with everything that was said and take word for word what episode 83 said, I agree that this wouldn't be plausible at all. But like you said, things might have changed and some details altered. Just can't wait to see what happens in Episode 293  :guts:

Edit: Correction, theres one other character that has a similar outting as the Daka Creator and Idea of Evil. Rosine, in her last transformation she had some of those on her sides and her propulsor was also in the shape of this. Although this is in a very different situation, it might just be a coincidence... but who knows, she could create her own minions too.

Heres a picture to show you what I mean.

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh256/GutsLCF/Roshinu.jpg)

All in all I'm probably just thinking too much about those tentacles... but its still fun to think of it as a possibility.

EDIT 2:

I was just taking a shower and thought of something... probably too extreme and unprobable but I'll still share it since it does make some sort of sense, nonetheless it's Berserk related and this topic has been suffering from "I want next episode to come out" crap. If Ganishka is indeed stealing power from the Idea with his man-made beherit (which could be just like an ordinary Beherit or similar to a Crimson Beherit (God Hand Beherit) to try and acquire some of those God Hand powers for himself. TO some extent it could make sense, we don't know the limits of his Daka Creator, we know he needs power strong enough to rival a God Hand (I doubt he'd be doing this if he knew he didnt stand a chance). What I'm speculating is that Ganishka is making a "fake" God Hand Ceremony to become somewhat of a Demi-God Hand or Fake but still with great powers enough to rival Griffith. All this might seem a bit far fetched... but the children's prophecy said something about a giant black shadow will block out the sun over the entire city. This could be a reference to the "Hand" that spawns from the earth to reincarnate a human into a God Hand. Although the shape of the shadow we do see betrays this theory somewhat, I think its interesting nonetheless. If this was to happen, the Law of there being only 5 God Hands normally might have some sort of side-effect causing the normality to be disturbed weakening the powers of the God Hand members... giving Guts a standing chance. Wow, sorry this is really really far fetched, but I find it somewhat interesting nonetheless. This might be what hurts the God Hands/Griffith enough for Guts to even be able to fight him.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Griffith on February 08, 2008, 03:12:26 AM
This might be what hurts the God Hands/Griffith enough for Guts to even be able to fight him.

(http://www.skullknight.net/encyclopedia/images/DSbanner2.jpg)

THIS might be what hurts the God Hands/Griffith enough for Guts to even be able to fight him. :guts:

(the sword, not the encyclopedia =)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Okin on February 08, 2008, 04:06:46 AM
Man you're getting lost in your own thoughts. With how much of a rant you're going on just write a fan-fiction on what you think is happening.

All I can say on the subject is:

If an apostle is linked to deeper layers of the astral world than a human is normally,

Then Ganishka's new greater form may be linked to deeper layers of the astral world than an apostle. :schierke:

It's so baseless I can't even make a good conditional statement.

The example of Rochine's apostle form only proves to me that Miura draws all organic orifices that jets of gas exit from that way. Anything else that performed the same function wouldn't look like a natural part of an apostle's body.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 08, 2008, 12:28:05 PM
it could be possible that Idea's design would not change.

If you're talking about the Idea of Evil's appearance, then it definitely hasn't changed. It's still in the manga, at the end of episode 82.

And I wonder why they would bother to even show those tentacle things if... they were just for cosmetic purposes.

They're not really tentacles. And actually, save for the specific panels you posted, the orifices don't look completely similar. In the Idea of Evil's case, they're meant to be like truncated arteries, while in the case of Ganishka's device they're longer appendages situated at the base that might have once been part of an apostle's body. It also seems that they were used to expulse Daka newborns under "normal" circumstances. Also, when the Daka-maker started pumping the deadly fog in and out, all orifices contributed to it, not only those you pointed out but also the various mouths covering the thing as well as the hole at the top.

I know what you mean by Idea not looking like the Daka Creator, but we have only seen those types of "tentacles" in two areas. One which is Idea and the other being Ganishka's Daka machine. When both were "reincarnating"/"demonizing" (just to use those terms) they were both spewing out "air" like that

Well, you disproved what you're saying here yourself later in your post. It's also not air they're expulsing/taking in: for the Idea of Evil it's that "ocean of feelings" it talks about and in which it floats, and for the Daka-maker it's the deadly fog (in what is, let's not forget it, a very specific situation). Furthermore, the Idea of Evil probably does that all the time, like a heart pumping blood, so I don't think it's related to a transmutation process in particular. As for the Daka-maker, see what I just said about its various orifices and their different uses.

Edit: Correction, theres one other character that has a similar outting as the Daka Creator and Idea of Evil. Rosine, in her last transformation she had some of those on her sides and her propulsor was also in the shape of this. Although this is in a very different situation, it might just be a coincidence... but who knows, she could create her own minions too.

Uhh yeah, and so could the Snail Count, and the Beherit Apostle could transform people by stinging them. Are you comparing the creation of pseudo-apostles to the the work of the Idea of Evil in order to justify this superficial, aesthetic similarity? Because it doesn't make sense, and it can't work. Besides, Rosine's appendages are again not completely similar to what we're comparing them to, and in her case they're specifically used to help propel her in the air. I find myself agreeing with Okin in this case: all this shows is that it's likely the resemblance is coincidental, no matter how interesting it may seem.

If Ganishka is indeed stealing power from the Idea with his man-made beherit (which could be just like an ordinary Beherit or similar to a Crimson Beherit (God Hand Beherit) to try and acquire some of those God Hand powers for himself. TO some extent it could make sense, we don't know the limits of his Daka Creator, we know he needs power strong enough to rival a God Hand (I doubt he'd be doing this if he knew he didnt stand a chance).

Ganishka doesn't know what the result is going to be like. That's why this is an extreme and desperate move. He's not doing this because he knows for sure it'll give him the edge over Griffith, he's doing this because he knows that nothing else will work. There's one thing we do know for sure though: that in the end, Ganishka will lose. As for acquiring the powers of a member of the God Hand, even putting aside many of the problems that would raise, there's still the fact that they can't materialize themselves in the corporeal world without underdoing a very complex and rare process, like Griffith did. What you're suggesting would mean that the Occultation and Incarnation ceremonies were complete wastes of time and resources. That seems rather unlikely to me.

What I'm speculating is that Ganishka is making a "fake" God Hand Ceremony to become somewhat of a Demi-God Hand or Fake but still with great powers enough to rival Griffith.

See above. If doing it in such a half-assed way works as well, then why does the God Hand even bother with their constraining rituals?

All this might seem a bit far fetched... but the children's prophecy said something about a giant black shadow will block out the sun over the entire city. This could be a reference to the "Hand" that spawns from the earth to reincarnate a human into a God Hand. Although the shape of the shadow we do see betrays this theory somewhat, I think its interesting nonetheless.

The children's prophecy that was delivered to them by Griffith. Honestly, I don't think a hand is going to appear. In fact I'm quite sure it won't happen. It seems obvious to me, considering the illustration, that it's referring to what Ganishka will become. A shape resembling a multi-armed creature.

If this was to happen, the Law of there being only 5 God Hands normally might have some sort of side-effect causing the normality to be disturbed weakening the powers of the God Hand members... giving Guts a standing chance. Wow, sorry this is really really far fetched, but I find it somewhat interesting nonetheless. This might be what hurts the God Hands/Griffith enough for Guts to even be able to fight him.

Yeah, like you said this is rather implausible... And it's not so much that there's a "law" about there only being five members of the God Hand, but rather that when Femto was born they just (logically) said the hand was complete and that was it.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Guтs on February 08, 2008, 09:08:05 PM
I know my theory is wrong, but I was shooting it out there, mainly because for the last 50 posts it was whining and bitching about when the next episode was out. I mentioned it was interesting, and shot out a theory with it, but like I also said, I hardly believe any of what I said and its plausibility, only just starting a conversation that would space us away from the long ass wait and constant nagging of when the next episode is coming out.

Although, I'll thank you Aazealh for actually answering it without flaming and disrespecting, as many others would do. Had that nicely constructed, answered all possible questions I had about the theory, even if it was wrong, it was nice to read what you had to say about it.

@GnM, yeah obviously the Dragon Slayer will have to do the work... but at his present state (Guts)... he wouldn't even be able to get even somewhat close to any of them, he could barely do anything versus Ganishka and needed Zodd's assistance to do any sort of damage. Griffith merely walked in and kicked his ass, so to speak. So Guts has one long way before I can even see him able to reach them with his sword. Hence, something needs to happen to the God Hand to either be weakened or Guts gets another "upgrade", make that a few.

Honestly though, what kind of "gear" or spiritual enlightment or w/e will happen to Guts will he need to be able to fight the God Hand? Berserker Armor.. is making him really weak outside of Battle (worse and worse as each one goes by) so I can't see him having too many more intense battles like the one versus Ganishka. He might get somewhat healed in Elfhelm but who knows. Just wanna know what you think will make this large difference in power, narrow down to a winning chance for Guts?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on February 08, 2008, 09:16:05 PM
I know my theory is wrong, but I was shooting it out there, mainly because for the last 50 posts it was whining and bitching about when the next episode was out.

I don't see how knowingly piling on b.s would be considered much better.  :schierke:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Okin on February 08, 2008, 09:42:47 PM
I don't see how knowingly piling on b.s would be considered much better.  :schierke:

That's exactly why I wanted him to post it as a what if, not a theory.

Well, this passing the time I have to admit- oh there's my ride, Later!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Baldulf on February 08, 2008, 10:41:46 PM
On the other hand, no monetary considerations of any kind are likely to be able to force the author to change his work schedule. He doesn't work because he needs money to live.

Doesn't he? (I don't know,that's because I'm asking)

In fact,apart from his works and some random interviews, I don't know anything about the life of the author.

Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: kimedog on February 09, 2008, 12:40:27 AM
http://www.skullknight.net/encyclopedia/images/DSbanner2.jpg (http://www.skullknight.net/encyclopedia/images/DSbanner2.jpg)

THIS might be what hurts the God Hands/Griffith enough for Guts to even be able to fight him. :guts:

(the sword, not the encyclopedia =)

I don't know.  An encyclopedia can sure hurt if its thick enough, or if Griffith suddenly became illiterate, it could hurt him from not knowing how to read!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 09, 2008, 12:16:17 PM
Although, I'll thank you Aazealh for actually answering it without flaming and disrespecting, as many others would do. Had that nicely constructed, answered all possible questions I had about the theory, even if it was wrong, it was nice to read what you had to say about it.

You're welcome, I'm glad you appreciate my responses.

yeah obviously the Dragon Slayer will have to do the work... but at his present state (Guts)... he wouldn't even be able to get even somewhat close to any of them, he could barely do anything versus Ganishka and needed Zodd's assistance to do any sort of damage.

Well, keep in mind it's a matter of context. Maybe if Griffith was hit by the Dragon Slayer right now it would harm him and even be able to kill him. And the worlds are already merging together, so it could be only a matter of time before the others are within Guts' reach. Not to mention that he might not kill them all one by one himself.

Doesn't he? (I don't know,that's because I'm asking)

He's been rich for a long time already, and he's spent most of his adult life working continuously.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Ramen4ever on February 09, 2008, 04:54:20 PM
I'm looking forward to the next episode. Though unlikely, any contact (or even a lack of contact.) between Ganishka and the pumping stuffed red turkey :idea: would be truly interesting. If he gets power from the Idea of Evil, that opens a whole new door on the relationship between the dark forces. If he gets diddly-squat apart from what his "device" will give him, well that would be interesting as well.
As for what I think will happen, well as much as I would love to see any interaction with the Idea of Evil, I don't think this will be the moment it comes out of retirement.

In other words, I think we're gonna get a episode of troops gathering outside the city, a few interesting words from Ganishka.. something about how he feels that his power IS OVER 9000!!!. and maybe a hint or more about how Griffith plans to fight him without exposing "himself"
to the human troops. *Cough Pontiff Cough*
If we do end up getting a deep philosophical episode giving us a tad more insight into the world of Berserk I would be pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on February 09, 2008, 05:20:22 PM
and maybe a hint or more about how Griffith plans to fight him without exposing "himself"
to the human troops. *Cough Pontiff Cough*
Even if Griff transformed into another apostle penis-monster, at this point the Pontiff is so taken with him he'd praise it as GOD itself.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Oburi on February 09, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
Even if Griff transformed into another apostle penis-monster, at this point the Pontiff is so taken with him he'd praise it as GOD itself.

and so would I...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 10, 2008, 01:12:34 AM
BTW, Berserk will be in the next issue of YA (February 22). Miura apologized for the wait and said the story would resume in Wyndham castle.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on February 10, 2008, 01:24:43 AM
BTW, Berserk will be in the next issue of YA (February 22). Miura apologized for the wait and said the story would resume in Wyndham castle.

AWESOME!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on February 10, 2008, 01:25:18 AM
BTW, Berserk will be in the next issue of YA (February 22). Miura apologized for the wait and said the story would resume in Wyndham castle.
Excellent news AND insight into what the episode will be about. Miura always pulls through.

PS: If someone else asks when 293 is coming out, it's INSTA-BAN.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Proj2501 on February 10, 2008, 01:55:07 AM
...yes...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: zrexe on February 10, 2008, 02:25:05 AM
BTW, Berserk will be in the next issue of YA (February 22). Miura apologized for the wait and said the story would resume in Wyndham castle.

Great News!
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: dimasok on February 10, 2008, 04:42:44 AM
Finally! My weekly fill of Bleach and D-Gray man wasn't enough to satiate my craving for Berserk :)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on February 10, 2008, 04:53:29 AM
Awesome news!  Looks like we won't be seeing Ganishka just yet, as this episode will probably focus on Griffith's strategy for the upcoming battle.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Scorpio on February 10, 2008, 07:35:43 AM
Awesome news!  Looks like we won't be seeing Ganishka just yet, as this episode will probably focus on Griffith's strategy for the upcoming battle.

Well, as I recall, that Ganishka craziness is taking place in Wyndham, so the next episode should be the outcome of Ganishka's transformation or at least its process.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Loc_n_lol on February 10, 2008, 09:04:07 AM
So... when's 293 coming ?


... sorry.  :schierke:
great news ! just bought vol 23 in French to make for the lack of Berserk, can't wait for the next episode.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Jaze1618 on February 10, 2008, 09:19:36 AM
People treat you the way you train them to treat you.


So... when's 293 coming ?


... sorry.  :schierke:
great news ! just bought vol 23 in French to make for the lack of Berserk, can't wait for the next episode.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Skeleton on February 10, 2008, 03:00:31 PM
It's good to hear from Miura again and to know Berserk is right around the corner.  He didn't have to apologize though.  When you give the world something as delicious as Berserk, you really don't need to apologize for much.

So does this mean we're never going to see Ganishka's apostle form?  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on February 10, 2008, 04:08:58 PM
Looks like we won't be seeing Ganishka just yet, as this episode will probably focus on Griffith's strategy for the upcoming battle.
So does this mean we're never going to see Ganishka's apostle form?  :ganishka:
People, people, Aaz said the episode would begin "IN Wyndham castle," not on the outskirts. If that's true, that could mean it'll focus on the resistance forces, or Ganishka himself.

So... when's 293 coming ?

... sorry.  :schierke:
great news ! just bought vol 23 in French to make for the lack of Berserk, can't wait for the next episode.
Banned for a week.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 10, 2008, 04:43:35 PM
So does this mean we're never going to see Ganishka's apostle form?  :ganishka:

Who knows. Maybe the fog IS his apostle form. We can't say for sure. There's still a lot we don't know about Ganishka and the Kushans in general. Let's hope we'll learn more about them at some point.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: jackson_hurley on February 10, 2008, 04:49:06 PM
maybe Griffith will send some of his men to get the resistance out of Wyndham before the big fight or something?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 10, 2008, 04:58:38 PM
maybe Griffith will send some of his men to get the resistance out of Wyndham before the big fight or something?

I think they'll flee the city on their own in the next episode, following the dream's instructions. It's possible that some soldiers will wait for them, to take them to a safe place, but I don't think the troops will come into the city.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: jackson_hurley on February 10, 2008, 05:01:31 PM
nah i don't think either that a lot of troops would go in the city, mostly maybe a really small group just to indicate where to go or something. Like you said to bring them to safety cause i have a small feeling there might be big damage to the city depending what Ganishka will look like after he comes out of his machine.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Pencil-smith on February 10, 2008, 05:23:19 PM
Yeehaw!

Now for two weeks of sweet, sweet anticipation.  :casca:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: dimasok on February 11, 2008, 01:41:40 AM
I still think that no matter how Ganishka ends up looking in his super-apostle form, Griffith will still be as unshakeable by his presence as ever :)
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Black_Devil on February 11, 2008, 08:32:13 AM
Excellent news about the next episode, though  :miura: shouldn't have to apologize for his work,in any case it'll be interested to see what's going on in the castle, and who knows, Ganishka may show up at the end of the episode or something.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: FRS on February 11, 2008, 11:49:44 AM
BTW, Berserk will be in the next issue of YA (February 22). Miura apologized for the wait and said the story would resume in Wyndham castle.

That's a great news.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on February 11, 2008, 01:13:42 PM
jest

Also confirmed, Berserk will be taking another short break after the next issue of YA.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Peregrine_Falcon on February 11, 2008, 01:21:04 PM
jest

Also confirmed, Berserk will be taking another short break after the next issue of YA.

Define 'short'
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on February 11, 2008, 01:24:13 PM
jest

Also confirmed, Berserk will be taking another short break after the next issue of YA.


define "jest"  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: njashi9 on February 11, 2008, 02:03:14 PM
jest

Also confirmed, Berserk will be taking another short break after the next issue of YA.

Miura is propably working on something else these days.
But i fear that my dream of seeing Elfhelm before the end of the year won't come true :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: flagawax on February 11, 2008, 02:07:40 PM
 .... Always good news by  Aazealh  ..... ;) .....

 .....  :miura: <-- Really sorry face  ...
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Rhombaad on February 11, 2008, 02:09:25 PM
People, people, Aaz said the episode would begin "IN Wyndham castle," not on the outskirts. If that's true, that could mean it'll focus on the resistance forces, or Ganishka himself.

Haha, wow, I really spaced out on that one.  For some reason I completely forgot that Wyndham is occupied by the Kushans. :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 11, 2008, 03:05:49 PM
Miura is propably working on something else these days.
But i fear that my dream of seeing Elfhelm before the end of the year won't come true :judo:

Uriel was joking in the post you quoted, nothing of the sort was announced.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Proj2501 on February 11, 2008, 03:44:49 PM
Thank god. Ugh, I am seriously itching for this episode. I know most will disagree, but I don't want to see Ganishka just yet. I think another episode or 2 is worth the wait to reveal him. :isidro:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on February 11, 2008, 07:17:05 PM
Yeah, sorry to all who didn't fully read my post.

It was in poor taste :void:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Walter on February 11, 2008, 08:36:32 PM
Yeah, sorry to all who didn't fully read my post.
(http://skullknight.net/images/mybad.jpg)
Yeah, MY BAD.  :puck:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: CnC on February 11, 2008, 08:43:18 PM
'ey.  I got it when I hit the quote button...  just wasn't funny  :miura:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Nonsapient on February 11, 2008, 09:02:51 PM
(http://skullknight.net/images/mybad.jpg)
Yeah, MY BAD.  :puck:

I can read 4 pixel text.  Can't you?  :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Uriel on February 12, 2008, 12:50:27 AM

It was in poor taste.


Again, sorry... :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Smith on February 12, 2008, 12:43:47 PM
but I don't think the troops will come into the city.

And when there isn't any human left in the city, I can foresee a battle from hell with all the monsters...

Since no one will be there to witness the battle, I wouldn't be surprised if all of them revealed their apostle form. :SK:

P.S.

Thank God, I wouldn't want to be exposed to something like that.

It breaks my heart...  :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Lithrael on February 13, 2008, 01:49:46 AM
I would just like to say: omg yay.

I'd start buying YA again except I am poor just at the moment.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Okin on February 13, 2008, 02:24:48 AM
What Miura did was fine. An extended wait is no reason to go insane. (To think I was about to dye my hair silvery-white [it'll come out blue] in my impatience for new episodes. Also my hair is almost shoulder length now!) If we did then, we'd never see the end of the manga!

There's no hurry to see Ganishka. I mean, I'm just dying to know what's happening to Mule and Sonia right now! Wait, forget them! What do you think Charlotte's lady-in-waiting is doing?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Nonsapient on February 13, 2008, 02:34:08 AM
What Miura did was fine. An extended wait is no reason to go insane. (To think I was about to dye my hair silvery-white [it'll come out blue] in my impatience for new episodes. Also my hair is almost shoulder length now!) If we did then, we'd never see the end of the manga!

There's no hurry to see Ganishka. I mean, I'm just dying to know what's happening to Mule and Sonia right now! Wait, forget them! What do you think Charlotte's lady-in-waiting is doing?

I would honestly like to see a whole lot more character development for Mule and Sonia.

It would be very neat to see a siege entirely from their point of view.
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Bubbles Float High on February 13, 2008, 02:56:23 AM
Best news I've heard all YEAR!!

Now I need to go reread the last few EPISODES to remember what exactly is happening again  :???:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Black_Devil on February 13, 2008, 06:01:04 AM
Try not to have an Episode. :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Aazealh on February 13, 2008, 08:35:43 AM
There's no hurry to see Ganishka. I mean, I'm just dying to know what's happening to Mule and Sonia right now! Wait, forget them! What do you think Charlotte's lady-in-waiting is doing?

You're trying to diss Anna or something? :puck:
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Ramen4ever on February 13, 2008, 03:32:13 PM
You're trying to diss Anna or something? :puck:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYQUsp-jxDQ
mind if I join in?
Title: Re: Episode 292
Post by: Judo on February 15, 2008, 07:47:15 PM
yes... put that abominable clip away please!

anyway... great to have a new episode next week.