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Shootin' the Breeze / Re: What are you drinking? (general liquid thread)
« on: September 07, 2016, 03:39:34 PM »
Scotch, neat.

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I thought the scene where a naked Schierke stumbles on a sleeping Guts felt like something out of a much lesser and creepier manga. I don't want kiddie sexual tension in my Berserk, Miura. The schoolgirl crush thing was kind of cute until that scene.

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: How Did You Find Out About Berserk?
« on: September 06, 2016, 01:38:44 AM »
Always been around on the net and interested in pop culture and geeky stuff so it was inevitable I'd hear about it.

Watched the movies back in 2013, liked them a lot but eh kind of forgot about it after. manga didn't grab me.

Got a little older, went through some shit, suddenly something clicked and now I think this is one of the greatest stories to ever come out of Japan, up there with Eva and Bebop. OG.

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... Seems like it was. Anyhow, glad you're wanting to take a second chance. Just voice what you want to say as long as it's respectful :guts:

Fair 'nuff, bro, I kinda flew off the handle anyways. Catch you guys around.

I'll say though, that orgy of violence that preceded Griffith's rebirth was really something. Just the idea that all that horrific, unimaginable pain and suffering that went into incarnating this angelic figure is such a trip. I love Berserk.

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You made so little effort to create this thread, that it required someone to ask its meaning in the first reply, and you complain about people not wanting to talk to you? I'm pretty sure that you'd be upvoted if you posted some real examples, and actually tried to make a point.

It's not about internet points. I just take issue with the fact people downvote over a completely innocuous question with slang in the thread title. If you guys want deep academic discussion about Berserk's themes, start a thread, I'm not shy, I've got a lot to say.

I'll swallow my pride and keep posting here 'cuz it's not like it's a bad place at all. And Berserk communities are few and far in between.

THAT said, Berserk is one of the few works I know where the depiction of evil in its most horrific and depraved forms is not gratuitous at all.

I like that, actually. Miura isn't scared to show that people are fucked up, and what's more, there is someone who is fighting against it tooth and nail. It's why I love Guts as a character. He's got a whole world of evil on his shoulders. It's some real shit.

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lol -4 karma? I thought this would be a cool community to talk about one of my favorite series with, not a bunch of touchy spergs. Peace out.

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What exactly do you mean by "forced it" ?

When the violence is a little too much, even considering the series we're talking about here

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Manga Mausoleum / Has there ever been a time for you when Berserk forced it?
« on: September 04, 2016, 08:20:13 PM »
I mean it's Berserk and all but that huge spread near the end of the Conviction Arc of the kids being disembowelled by their possessed parents, Jesus Christ.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 346
« on: September 04, 2016, 08:18:35 PM »
Pretty obvious at this point Guts is going to ride the Spirit Tree down into the Astral Realm.

No matter what, Casca is going to be cured, but what I'm dreading is the journey to Falconia and how long that's going to take.

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Manga Mausoleum / Re: Did humanity inadvertently create Beherits?
« on: September 02, 2016, 04:02:22 PM »
Miura has done his research with the magic aspect of the series. His metaphysics is pretty much a grimdark version of the Platonic system, and these philosophies are precisely about finding an inner strength to overcome the world and all that.

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Manga Mausoleum / Did humanity inadvertently create Beherits?
« on: September 02, 2016, 02:37:20 AM »
I believe, essentially, Berserk is a story about the strength to overcome suffering and despair. I remember a line somewhere about Apostles being humans who couldn't face up to their weakness, perpetually running away from themselves, and eventually succumbed.

I wonder if the case is then that humans, suffering at the hands of the weak, insane, and impotent, desperately craved some higher purpose to their suffering, and that the more mundane explanation of human folly was just not "exciting" or "satisfying" enough. Not to mention the fact that most people don't want to own up to their issues. And this is what created the Idea of Evil and, by extension, Beherits, as a kind of metaphysical get out of jail free card from their self-imposed despair.

So I think the IoE's causality has become a self-perpetuating system that answers earthly despair with "divine" grace. I think Guts is outside the current precisely because he's got the balls and willpower to face darkness, both within and without.

I think the thematic end of the series will be humanity finding an inner strength that is greater than the pain and horror that compels someone to trade the life of a loved one for a demonic pseudo-life.

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I wouldn't say these are direct influences on Miura but reading Berserk I picked up on:

Neoplatonic metaphysics (grades of existence that become more idealized as one climbs the ladder; Miura inverts this by placing the Form of Evil at the head instead of Plato's Form of the Good)

Schopenhaurian and Spinozan conceptions of the will (man insofar as he is a creature on this earth with the resources to do so can will what he wants, but he never willed his birth as a willing being in the first place) - Compare the transcendental entity or law stuff with "Man can do what he wants, but he cannot will what he wills"

Kabbalah (the Sephira are the archetypal forces that constitute the physical and spiritual reality of the universe; the God Hand are essentially the Ideas of Pestilence, Deceit, Lust, etc.)

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Kinda late to the argument but...

Griffith is supposed to be this unapproachable cold figure with a distant look in his eyes. I think it really needs to hit you just what Guts up against: his best bro has ascended reality and become a god. I think everyone here can relate to knowing a person who is just so perfect and charismatic and unforgettable, they just have it, their voice and intonations and appearance and mannerisms and everything about them makes you feel low.

and then not only are they light years above the rest of humanity struggling down here in the mud with taxes and 9-5 jobs but causality itself is conspiring with them. they're no longer an individual but a principle, a force. and that force has incarnated in the flesh of your deformed child. it's like God itself saying "yeah you're right, he IS better than you, he'll always be better than you, tough shit."

if you can't appreciate griffith's character in this way you're lost, man

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