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Anime Asylum / Very Bad Berserk Summary
« on: October 02, 2017, 01:34:45 AM »
I've known about this for years, but I thought it would be sad if more people didn't know about this extremely off point description of Berserk. This is the summary of the 1997 Berserk anime from my university's library system.

"In the castle town of Midland, a new king has come to power through treachery and violence. Mercenaries named Guts and Griffith and a mysterious warrior known as the Black Swordsman will do battle against the king."


Shootin' the Breeze / Re: What do you do for a living
« on: August 20, 2015, 12:04:11 PM »
I was just thinking the same thing! But of course, Joe Chip loves Berserk because Guts has great teeth. :SK:

I would think a dentist would hate it, because Guts clenches and grinds his teeth all the time, which will ruin their perfection by the time he's 40!

I'm 20 getting my bachelors in computer science, and interning in software development during summers. I'm sad that I won't have a cool physical/technical technician type job but I really like what I do. I do wish there was a program that let you do different jobs for 6 weeks or so. Not that I'd want to see if another career would suit me better, but just to sate my curiosity :ganishka:

I think most of the people who say that have an incorrect view of what Berserk is, because they come off of the anime they think Berserk was strictly historical until the last two episodes where the writers gave up and started making stuff up about God Hands and demons (people actually believe this). They don't realize the Golden Age Arc is a flashback to provide context for Berserk's Fantasy/horror setting and the motivations for Guts' quest of vengeance. Without the first 3 volumes it can seem like the fantasy elements like the God Hand, Apostles and Elves come out of nowhere rather than being foreshadowed.

Plus there's the fact that it's also pretty heavily foreshadowed in the show, even without all the extra supernatural stuff the manga had. I think that the eclipse was so extreme that people chose to ignore the foreshadowing instead of accept that Griffith would get everyone killed.

Anime Asylum / Re: Voice Acting in Berserk Animation
« on: August 19, 2015, 03:04:52 PM »
The Bakiraka were human, just for reference. It's also the best scene featuring the members of the Band of the Falcon fighting together. No other scene showcases their skills and their teamwork like this one does, all the while conveying a real sense of danger and urgency. And then there's the fact Wyald is both the first apostle Guts manages to take down, pushing him to his limit in the process, and plays a key role in what happens afterwards: from Griffith's breakdown to Guts not having his sword with him. In fact, the events in the TV series have plot holes because of its removal. As for what it was replaced with? A terrible, nondescript fight that no one remembers.

The teamwork during the escape with Griffith is the part I enjoy about the Bakiraka fight, but taken just as a fight, it's fairly low for me. Granted, this is in comparison to other fights in Berserk. Even a fight that's boring for Berserk is still pretty cool in the grand scheme of things.

I don't mean to pick on you, but you straight-up said that the manga would forever be at a disadvantage because it doesn't have music playing automatically. It's hard to take that kind of comment seriously when discussing why the TV adaptation is not superior to the original material.

I wouldn't say it's a disadvantage of the manga. It is a strength of the medium of television, I guess is more my point. I mean, there's a reason that people like television, and people make television shows, as opposed to just releasing a script or showing storyboards. I'm not saying that there is anything inherently superior to television over comics, but they are fundamentally different mediums, with unique characteristics to each. I will stand by the placement and use of music in the show as something that improves the anime, and is unique to it.

The manga shouldn't come packaged with little music players like those Christmas cards that play Jingle Bells, the medium of comic books doesn't need a soundtrack, it stands on its own. However, I think that the use of music plays a big part in making the anime a work that stands apart from its source material, so it's not just the manga with worse art and voice acting and some cool fight scenes cut out. A better word than "advantage" would have been "distinguishing".

Anime Asylum / Re: Voice Acting in Berserk Animation
« on: August 19, 2015, 02:00:55 PM »
I see. And the pictures move by themselves, too.

Now if only episode 339 had those flipping action pages like in Captain Underpants.

That and they're infinitely better in every conceivable way, don't you think? Like, those are badass fights that actively contribute to making the series awesome.

They are definitely better than Adon (no hard feat), but they rank pretty low for me, except the Silat fight, that was pretty awesome. I particularly enjoy the human vs. human duels.

It is completely inconvenient when I can't intuit the intention of a scene without a musical cue. I'm not sure how anyone made it through the Harry Potter books without the mysterious music that lets us know that something magical is about to happen.

That's not it at all, I'm just very picky about music timing, and so I need to know how long a scene will take before I know that music will fit for me. Otherwise, it's distracting to have to start and stop, or to have a song playing past when it fits the tone. I stopped trying to put music as background while I read very early on reading the manga, and I'm pretty sure emotions still happened. :troll:

I didn't think I would have to say that the manga doesn't need music, but if you are going to try to accompany some work (A TV show, or a comic, or a book) with a soundtrack, it either requires you as the reader to know what's going to happen, or a sound designer who does. Reading through the manga for the first time, I did not know if a scene would be of the sort that would have both been improved by music, and long enough to really benefit from its addition.

Is there not enough benefit of the doubt to assume that I would be able to intuit the tone and emotion of a scene without music, and just meant that music is an enhancement to the experience if used effectively?

And as far as Harry Potter is concerned, I'm more of a fan of the music than any other parts of the movie/book franchise, so I won't disagree with that sentiment, even though it was sarcastic.

Anime Asylum / Re: Voice Acting in Berserk Animation
« on: August 19, 2015, 11:03:24 AM »
I guess I'll never truly know which medium would do the golden age arc better for me since I can't experience it fresh but the one time, and I'd watched the show first. I think when I first read the manga I thought those "coolest fights" were filler-y, but the difference between those three fights in the manga and Adon in he show is that the fights all introduced elements in the story that were important either later on, or to flesh out Guts's character.

Present day me realizes that having an important function in the narrative is the very definition of something not being filler. I imagine both that the anime will always hold a special place in my heart, but also that when I have the money to complete my set of the dark horse volumes and get volumes 4-9, reading the manga will get me to the point where it will be my favorite telling of the golden age.

The gap in quality between scanlations and the anime is not as great as between the dark horse volumes and the anime, which is probably a major enabler of people liking elements of the anime better. Still, the largest advantage of the anime over the manga is and always will be that I don't have to read through a scene first to realize it's a touching monologue that I need to read it again while playing Guts theme.

Anime Asylum / Re: Voice Acting in Berserk Animation
« on: August 18, 2015, 10:31:07 PM »
I used to think the roughness in the animation and voice acting really fit the setting and story, but after having read the entire manga finally with professional translations and in an actual printed form, going back to the anime is pretty hard. My opinion that rough art is something that is the best fit for Berserk went out the window after seeing the manga's two page spreads in all their glory!

That being said, the english dub holds a special place in my heart and, low budget notwithstanding, I prefer the anime's telling of the Golden Age more than the manga's. I think it's more focused because it doesn't have to set up lore and events for the continuing story :schnoz:

Anime Asylum / Re: Hirasawa Susumu Interview about His Role in Movies
« on: July 08, 2015, 03:34:34 AM »
After learning that Hirasawa is a vocalist as well as a composer, I can't help but wonder if he did the singing for Guts in the original show. The singer sounds pretty much like some of the singing I heard Hirasawa do on youtube. Does anybody know if he did the vocals for the Berserk soundtrack?

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