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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: June 28, 2017, 09:32:41 PM »
I would really love to know the story of Zodd

And that's how you would want to read it? In a fucking novel written by some random guy? What a dismal thought.

Current Episodes / Re: Episode 351
« on: June 28, 2017, 05:46:06 PM »
I don't think there's much evidence for that, Casca in her current state is hostile towards men, but there's no reason why Casca would still be like that when her mind is restored, plus it seems like overkill for her to still carry the weight of her trauma with her after she recovered from that very same trauma. Not that I'm expecting her to be all sunshine and rainbows after being insane for four years

Not being insane anymore isn't the same as being 100% rid of all trauma. What they're doing here is trying to convince Casca to return to the world, to face her pain. They're not wiping her mind. Anyway, I said Casca will probably not want to immediately resume a romantic relationship when she's restored, do you disagree with that? Otherwise what do you mean by not being all sunshine and rainbows?

I would have least thought, by this time they would have known who Griffith was and what he meant to Casca (they haven't even any memories of him in his tortured state yet,) it's going to get even more confusing when they see him in his God Hand form.

They know who Griffith is/was. They've both had plenty of exposure and have even seen him, albeit from afar. In fact Guts was talking about him not so long ago, in episode 345. We also don't know how much they've seen in Casca's memories so far. We've only been shown a fraction of all the fragments they've collected, and Miura could have very well done so on purpose, keeping some of them off screen so that they could be evoked through flashbacks near the moment of crisis. If needed, Farnese and Schierke could very well just think back to those fragments they gathered off-screen earlier. Or maybe the last fragment will be a massive one that'll incorporate a whole slew of moments. Either way I'm not worried about confusion.



I am interseted in what she will think of Griffith after this though, I'm not one of the conspiritards who thinks Casca is going to flock to Griffith's side, but I don't think she has the capacity to hate him with the same intensity as Guts, he was after all the second most important man in her life.

Are you sure you're not one of those guys? Because you sound like them. "He was after all the second most important man in her life"... and then he sacrificed her and all her friends (who were horribly butchered), then gruesomely raped her in front of her boyfriend. Speaking about "intensity of hatred" feels like a complete cop-out to me, as if she would ever somehow give him a pass for what he did. Remember who else couldn't hate Griffith like Guts? Rickert. And he straight up slapped him in the face the next time he saw him, told him how he felt and stormed out. I don't understand how anyone could expect Casca to feel something other than disgust/pain/anger/fear/depression about Griffith. Oh and just you wait till she learns he corrupted her and Guts' son, and then later on took over his body for himself.

Which brings me to another tangent, this all puts Griffith in a very vulnerable position, if Guts discovers from Casca that the moonlight boy is indeed his son and sharing a body with Griffith, then Griffith has just handed his greatest enemy knowledge about his only weak spot.

I have been saying that the Boy in the Moonlight will be Griffith's downfall for literally ten years. However you're misreading the situation here. First, Griffith hasn't handed anything to anyone. His weakness lies in the fact the boy would probably not let him hurt his parents without reacting. He'd try to stop him or to take over the body like he did in volume 22. That's an unforeseen side effect of the incarnation process. Second, that knowledge, that their son's life is tied to that of their enemy, is sure to bring them immense anguish and doubt. Would they risk killing their son? I don't believe Casca would, and despite everything I don't believe Guts would either.

On a side note, I don't think Griffith considers Guts his greatest enemy, and I don't think Casca will emerge from her stupor with intricate knowledge about her son and Femto. They will probably need to figure that out afterwards.

Manga Mausoleum / Re: Volume 39 release
« on: June 27, 2017, 10:25:11 PM »
Even when dealing with Guts and the rest of the main cast?  It's only a couple of instances, but it just stuck out because for majority of the time, there is detail when it can fit.

It completely depends on the scene/panel, but yeah even the main cast can be drawn by an assistant. Of course the beauty of it is it's not too obvious so long as you're not expressly looking for it.

It is interesting to see him recompose art to use again.  I wonder if this will be a common thing.

This is related in that I think reusing panels is something that's being tried by the team to lighten their work load. Seems they're trying to remix Miura's own artwork to produce a quality result with less effort. Obviously it's had varying degrees of success, so I'm not sure how it'll go in the future.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: June 27, 2017, 09:41:58 PM »
(apparently, according to this summary)

It seems to me that your entire train of thought is based on an interpretation (the fact Grunbeld showed himself in his apostle form to tons of people who lived to tell about it) that I think should be taken with a grain of salt. I believe the wiser course of action is to not upend what had been established until now before we get more details. And even then, really, this remains a side-story from a third party, so whatever discrepancies it might contain should be viewed with skepticism in my opinion.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: June 27, 2017, 09:07:34 PM »
As depressing as the thought is, I'm trying to imagine what the novel being "canon" would even mean in terms of the manga.

"Guts! You and I are not so different, which you'd know if you'd read BERSERK®: The Flame Dragon Knight, available now at CDJapan and!"

Come on, let's not exaggerate things.

Something I've wondered about the Berserk world is how the existence of apostles wasn't more well known before the eclipse; given how many legends have grown around monsters in our own world, one would think even a handful of witnesses/survivors of transformed apostles would be enough to get the word out and people wouldn't be so surprised to encounter someone like Wyald or Zodd.

Well it's not like there aren't any tales of monsters (and other fantasy creatures such as elves) in Berserk, that much is established early on (for example when Zodd is introduced in volume 5). It's just that they aren't that common in the more populated areas.

Current Episodes / Re: Episode 351
« on: June 27, 2017, 08:58:14 PM »
So, not even a story credit for Miura on the book beyond "based on" status?  :sad:

Same thing I said in the novel thread weeks ago. Novel: Makoto Fukami | Original: Miura Kentarou
Hypothetically it's possible be that Miura provided an outline or something, but nothing explicitly indicates it.

So then....this means the "Berserk: Flame Dragon Knight" light novel is actually canon after all?  :magni:

When was it not supposed to be canon? It was a done deal as soon as we knew Miura was providing illustrations for it.

Manga Mausoleum / Re: Volume 39 release
« on: June 27, 2017, 07:21:52 PM »
Some quick observations, having received my volume. First, Miura has a new assistant called Minoru Hirata. Second I really like the poster of the Sovereign of the Flower Storm, I think it's one of the best illustrations in recent memory. Lastly, I love the little picture inside even more (it's about this volume's real stars: the mushrooms).

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: June 27, 2017, 06:55:34 PM »
Haven't had time to really check the summaries Gordol posted, however I have received the book and for info it's 182 pages long (not counting the superfluous stuff) and is indeed a light novel (which wasn't 100% sure given how they've been advertising it).

There is also one more illustration than what has been posted so far, bringing the total to 10 plus the cover. I'm not going to post a picture of the drawing, but it depicts Benedikte (the proper spelling for the girl's name) dressed in a light robe and performing a ritual/dance of some kind.

Manga Mausoleum / Re: Volume 39 release
« on: June 27, 2017, 04:53:21 PM »
If you really want to get nit picky there are a few panels where there are some blank faces on characters, and the only reason they stand out is because he usually takes the time to add those tiny details in.

Just so it's clear, most of the background faces or art that doesn't have much added value is drawn by assistants and not Miura himself. And the difference between his work and that of his assistants is typically quite easy to spot.

Current Episodes / Re: Episode 351
« on: June 26, 2017, 09:20:01 PM »
But where will Guts' head be during this time? [...] He's put all his chips on Casca for all these years. What will that rejection, even if it's ultimately temporary, do to him? The harrowing part of the restoration process is only beginning...

Yeah, it will be hard to take for sure. For a reader's perspective, it will be interesting to see what it does to his morale. Could it sap his will to fight? Would it nullify his inner struggling-self, so that he'd basically let himself be beaten down? Or would he succumb to the armor's enticement and risk having his mind destroyed? Then Casca would have to help bring him back. :ubik:

I think it would be interesting if the sprite was able to show this traumatized, trapped Casca a peek at life in the wider world since the trauma began (if the sprite is even a vessel for memories, and not merely a representation of an aspect of per ego). Just like the memory fragments that compose the "doll"'s body showed visions of the past, the sprite could harbor visions of Guts fighting for her, her child, Griffith, and all the conflicting emotions of all three of these elements.

I don't think the sprite will be able to do that. However, Schierke and Farnese sure could, and I expect them to. That's why they're here.

This hypothetical predicament you've concocted is forcing me to take sides — which character do I want LESS traumatized. The obvious answer is Schierke, because fuck that'd certainly be a "gloves off" moment for Miura ... But Farnese has come so far, it would be disheartening to see her permanently scarred, yet another victim of the trauma of the Eclipse.

Pushing the hypothesis to its conclusion, I think it could be an opportunity for Farnese to grow further eventually.

Guts/dog going down for the count (what would that mean...?)

I don't think the dog really matters to be honest, at least not if she's restored. It's just part of that nightmare, a figment of her mind. The most meaningful thing I can think of is that he's a projection of her own fighting spirit, her refusal —however tiny— to completely let go. In that view, banishing it might also hypothetical suppress the warrior-part of her, but I'm not convinced. She'll have plenty to deal with as it is.

I almost feel like some counterstroke for this process would be ... grimly appropriate. Perhaps it'll be something simple, like Guts' white tuft of hair, while also serving as a lasting reminder of the cost of their journey.

Yep, that's what I had in mind.

A parting thought, I am eagerly anticipating how Miura will choose to represent Femto in this world. I can't imagine it will be a straight-up carbon copy of the being, but some monstrous depiction. I can't wait.

I'm actually not sure we'll see Femto represented in the nightmare world itself. He will be within the memory, of course, but other than that? I don't know. Could be. The Black Sun could morph into his eye, would befit his unblinking stare (but I prefer the idea of it being Guts' eye). Hard to say beyond that.

BUT, if Guts is patient, and I think it could be a struggle and potential growth for him, I also think he's the one uniquely qualified to understand and relate to this with his own experience surviving sexual assault and betrayal by a trusted mentor to boot. Casca was the one to really help Guts face and cure those demons for himself, the only one he confided in at all and not even voluntarily at first, but now can be his time to understand her situation and reciprocate with her as only he can. We'll see, but this could be damn fine stuff as well as harrowing.

Excellent point and completely agree. Casca has helped Guts with his own trauma and he's particularly well-suited to help her with hers. Beyond even the rape, he's also still haunted by the Eclipse to this day, and his mental anguish shouldn't be understated. He's been downright neurotic at times. Sharing their mutual pain could do them both a lot of good, even if it'll take time.

Berserk Anime / Re: Would you give studio 4C another chance?
« on: June 26, 2017, 05:55:54 PM »
Do you guys agree or would rather have another studio/director giving it a go?

Those movies were utter garbage in my opinion, so no, I really do not want them to touch it again.

Current Episodes / Re: Episode 351
« on: June 26, 2017, 05:44:08 PM »
I have to agree with Griff, let's not waste any more time pondering the hypotheticals of a stupid comment.

I would rather have us discuss what we think might happen in the next few episodes and what impact it will have on the characters.

For example I'm surprised no one is talking about what the monsters in this episode suggest: that Casca is probably not going to want to immediately resume any kind of romantic relationship when she's restored. Not that it wasn't obvious to begin with, but I think this episode cemented it. People have been fantasizing about the Skull Knight's warning to Guts for years, but really, that simple fact would more than fit the bill.

But before getting to that they need to resolve the trauma and as I've mentioned before I feel like they aren't much closer to doing it than they were 4 episodes ago. They do know a good deal about Casca's past now, of course, which is essential to helping her out, but we still have no idea what the process of aiding her to cope with the trauma and persuading her to return will be like. It seems pretty obvious but I expect the Sprite to play a key role in this. Either as the force of hope and will to live within Casca (opposite the part of her that wants to stay like this) or as the "fully restored" version that they'll have to confront after gathering the last fragment (with the Sprite maybe merging with the doll or serving as the spark of life to animate it). In any case I feel that the Sprite's interactions with Farnese and Schierke since they've met could be key to Casca eventually trusting them and accepting to return..

And of course aside from all that there's the matter of Farnese and Schierke's own well-being. It's been made clear they're facing actual danger and I frankly have no idea how they'll get through the memory of the rape. Would Danan be able to shield them from the worst of it? Schierke's so young, and Farnese's mental resilience isn't the strongest... I can't imagine they wouldn't be traumatised if they were to experience it normally. Would Farnese shield Schierke from it and bear the trauma alone? It would be exceptionally brave of her, but also quite risky. As they have been warned, as as we've seen before, being hurt in there could have consequences on their real bodies... There's no telling what form that would take though. A scar? A discolored eye? I wonder.

There's a lot of unknowns going forward, even simply how they'll get past those thorny vines (which could take as little as two panels or as much as nine pages). If you guys want to keep the thread going, I'd like to hear what your thoughts are.

Current Episodes / Re: Episode 351
« on: June 25, 2017, 09:54:46 AM »
I am not saying that the whole sequence is useless but if you exclude the fact that Schierke and Farnese are learning about stuff through snippets of memories and the fact that we see Casca's mind being this much twisted - it really is generic.

"If you exclude the world and the characters as well as the actions that take place in the story and how it's all represented visually, then..."


I respect Miura's ideas for this manga, but this moment is underwhelming (so far) and to say otherwise is to fool yourself. Whatever, not going to argue with a person who sees Miura as someone who can't make a mistake. Waste of time.

Yeah after that brilliant demonstration I certainly wouldn't want you to waste anyone's time anymore.

Current Episodes / Re: Episode 351
« on: June 25, 2017, 08:59:13 AM »
I just hope that this whole event of curing Casca won't be limited to going through her memories. So far it's kinda uneventful and it's pretty generic for what it is. Think about it - healing Casca should be way more complex than just a sequence of memories we all know.

Seems to me you're the one who needs to think some more before posting.

Schierke and Farnese haven't just been going through Casca's memories. They're been journeying through a desolate landscape beyond time in order to collect each and every fragment of her broken ego, all the while fighting off hellish creatures birthed by the hostile environment (said environment being a product of Casca's mind). It wasn't uneventful, nor was it "generic", a word you apparently don't know the meaning of. No one knew what to expect from her "dream", and it's not quite like anything we've seen before. It has also certainly not been depicted as an easy process so far, and yet all of what they've done has merely set up the stage for the actual task they must accomplish: deal with the event that broke Casca and find a way to fix it.

Sure we learn some stuff (somewhat) but I don't think this is what people were really hyped for. Hopefully the last fragment is going to mean the whole new challenge for Schierke and Farnese. Something that makes this journey unforgettable.

As far as I know people have been pretty excited about every episode within the Corridor of Dreams, and it's been quite unique and unforgettable already.
It's also pretty obvious that dealing with the actual traumatic event at the center of everything will be a big challenge. It's what shattered Casca's mind to begin with, so it's not like having gathered the broken parts will help with it. They'll need to bear witness to the rape, a process which could hurt them, then they'll have to get Casca's mind to accept to bear it, which I don't imagine will be easy.

Manga Mausoleum / Re: Volume 39 release
« on: June 24, 2017, 12:08:07 AM »
So less than 200 pages.

We already knew the page count: it's 196 pages. As for actual manga content, it's 172 pages total.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: June 24, 2017, 12:05:19 AM »
Even if it's a morbid thing to say, i'm glad that age will stop Ridley from going full Lucas.

I must agree with that sentiment. The sooner the better.

Manga Mausoleum / Re: Volume 39 release
« on: June 23, 2017, 08:58:39 PM »
Yuka Kuramochi has been distributing what I guess are prints of the extras/promo images along with the release of Vol.39 and the new Novel.

Yes, this was a promotional operation to advertise those releases. It also includes a full page version of volume 39's cover illustration.

Can anyone confirm if these have been seen before? I like Guts's "collage"

The collage itself is new, the rest isn't.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: June 23, 2017, 08:33:59 PM »
Anyway, I still have On Stranger Tides and the new one to go, and I'm hoping they get back to basics and are at least just fucking movies instead of some poor attempt at an epic franchise soup. Thanks for listening, wish me luck.

Alas, poor Griffith! I knew him well; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.

Manga Mausoleum / Re: Volume 39 release
« on: June 23, 2017, 07:21:07 PM »
Just the usual, no new ones.

Too bad, but thanks for the info.

Manga Mausoleum / Re: Volume 39 release
« on: June 23, 2017, 06:48:57 PM »
Are there any new romanized names in the little character sheets?

It seems clear this volume was rushed out.

How so? Volumes are simple collections of episodes. They don't need to be prepared many months in advance.

Hopefully this is the last time this sort of thing has to happen.

What sort of thing? Having only 8 episodes? We'll see, but I don't think they took that decision lightly.

Manga Mausoleum / Re: Volume 39 release
« on: June 23, 2017, 06:37:41 PM »
If anyone is curious, the newest episode is not in the volume.

Wow, so there's only 8 episodes in the volume? Damn, that's not very encouraging...

I think they could have included 351 in there if they wanted to, so it means they're adjusting to the pace they expect in the future... Probably in an attempt to secure regular volume releases?
The only other explanation I can think of is that Miura decided while drawing 351 that he wanted to insert an episode between it and 350, and there just wasn't enough time to do it. But that's much less likely than the first possibility.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: June 23, 2017, 06:36:35 PM »
Hey, he helped with the animes and stuff, doesn't mean their changes are canon... this is an argument, right? :judo:

It's the argument I try to make in my mind, along with "Oh, well the Dreamcast game was supposed to be canon but in the end it wasn't really" and "Miura wrote Charles' story for the PS2 game but it wasn't meant to be canon".

Manga Mausoleum / Re: Volume 39 release
« on: June 23, 2017, 04:26:11 PM »
Do you guys think Guts hair will be cured by in elfhelm in the upcoming episodes?

No, I don't think so. How would it happen? What would be the point?

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: June 23, 2017, 04:20:52 PM »
And now you're regretting.  :iva:

On the other hand, he's already seen the pictures and at least he isn't encouraging them to make more of these books.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: June 23, 2017, 02:38:14 PM »
The illustrations are neat, though of course I would have preferred this to be depicted in the manga. It remains to be seen whether the novel format brought any additional depth to this back story.

It wasn't that I was doubting it, but voicing my disgust at the official backstory of a character actually being written by some hack anime writer.

Yeah, well, we did that in April already, but sure, I understand.
Only time will tell if that was a one-time thing or if there's more to come.

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