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Berserk Anime / Re: 2016 Berserk TV series: Episode 2
« on: July 10, 2016, 06:03:17 PM »
You just called in an air strike on your face.  Good luck!

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Berserk Anime / What does Berserk really mean to you?
« on: July 07, 2016, 05:08:12 AM »
This is the best Berserk website on the nets and screw you if you disagree.  I've been an official member since 2010 and a lurker for far longer, and this site has time and time again opened my eyes to the nuances of Berserk that I overlooked.  My appreciation and enjoyment of Berserk is exponentially larger due to this community.  Having said that, I think it's time for us to address the elephant in the room.

There has been a flurry of new activity on these boards since the anime debuted.  Most of the posts consist of people dog piling on the anime and one upping each other on new ways to say it's the worst thing ever.  Yes, the anime sucks, we all know it, and it's extremely fucking obvious to anyone with eyeballs.  Let me just point something out to everyone losing their grip because the anime is so bad - there are going to be A LOT of people completely new to Berserk that end up landing on this page.  Make them feel welcome!  Show them the light!  Don't make the reaction to the anime so toxic that people will be afraid to confess that they may have actually enjoyed it.  These folks dont' even understand how they have been shortchanged and it's up to us to explain the real Berserk to them.

Forgive me if I leave someone out but I have watched Aazealh, Walter, Griffith, and others be fantastic ambassadors for the series.  These folks have meticulously explained, theorized, and shot down nonsense over the years.  One of my favorite things about this website is the quintessential Aazealh reaction posts where he deftly eviscerates arguments point by point leaving nothing but the facts in his wake (hopefully there's isn't one of those following this post).  That's a guy who loves Berserk and this community - as opposed to the guy who shows up just to shit all over the anime.

If all you have to contribute is vitriol then maybe examine your motivations and place in the Berserk fandom world.  Skullknight.net is extremely passive about the Patreon page, so much so that despite being a member for years, I only discovered it early this year.  If you havent spent time on these boards in the down times between episodes or have not positively contributed to this community then I encourage you to make a pledge to the Patreon page as a show of solidarity (maybe consider a couple bucks even if you are a contributor  :ubik:). 

Just today I was browsing reddit on a default account and Berserk was on the front page.  It was a post about the monsters of Berserk and there was a huge amount of curiosity about the series as a whole and especially the new anime.  New fans are on the way and we should be able to welcome them into the fold.  If this is your home for Berserk or one of your daily visited sites then consider doing something other than complaining to keep this community alive and kicking. 

We have a dozen more episodes coming our way and if this is our reaction to every episode then it is going to get old really, EXTREMELY, fast.  The horse has already been beaten into subatomic particles.  Just ask yourself how you can help other people appreciate Berserk the way our admins and others have over the years. 

I understand that there are a lot of raw emotions surrounding this new project but I'm just asking for us all to take a deep breath and look at the big picture.  We need to be the place where folks get pointed in the right direction, not ridiculed into exile.  We are at an extremely exciting part of the series.  A portion of the story is now unfolding that some of us have been waiting for over a decade to see revealed.  I don't need a Berserk anime and the real deal is now more exciting than ever.  Don't sour this exciting time by pushing potential Berserk fans away before they have a chance to learn the true depth and sincerity of the series.

I'm getting off my soapbox now.  I hope I haven't overstepped my bounds.  I'm only asking that we, as a community, don't overlook the one truly great aspect of this animation, the inititiaion of new Berserk fans.

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Creation Station / Re: Berserk Colorized
« on: July 02, 2016, 06:30:40 PM »
Well, let's not do that then.  Is it because it is illegal to distribute the colorized pages?  Is this true even if you own the volumes and/or digital versions?

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Creation Station / Berserk Colorized
« on: July 02, 2016, 05:43:00 PM »
With everyone coming out of the wood work to comment on the anime, let's use this frustration for good.  Might I suggest we blow up the Patreon page so we can hire someone to colorize the series.  It will be better than any anime adaptation we are going to get   :ganishka:  In the meantime, I'm going to get out my crayons and color my volumes so I can use it as a flipbook and make my own anime - problem solved.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2016 Berserk TV series: Episode 1
« on: July 01, 2016, 09:44:21 PM »
If they wanted to get to new material, they should have started with the Black Swordsman arc. It could have been done in one movie. Then they could have moved on to other things as they saw fit. So I think you're wrong here, and that's supported by what the director said at the time. Anyway, the team in charge of the animation isn't the same anymore so it's moot.

Yeah but this misses the point of the Black Swordsman arc (which is entirely new material) playing a vital role in establishing core aspects of the story, the world, and the characters. So they'll shoehorn all that (or skip it) as they go... and for what reason?

Unfortunately, it's the journey that matters, not the destination. Berserk is the story of Guts. If they have no faith in that, then they shouldn't take on the project to begin with. There's no excuse here.

For the record, I agree with you 100%.  I am in no way carrying water for this adaptation or trying to excuse it.  I wanted it adapted from page 1 using the manga as a story board, but obviously we are light years away from that sort of thing.  I'm suggesting the episode is a cobbled mess, in large part, because they are rushing to the part of the story they want to tell - something akin to what they did with the movies.  When we get to that point, maybe they will adapt it in a more faithful manner.  There's no going back and damage has been done but maybe this series will get better when it hits its stride.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2016 Berserk TV series: Episode 1
« on: July 01, 2016, 03:47:02 PM »
The anime project's initial goal was to animate the entire series, but obviously this hasn't panned out.  These folks attempted to do Golden Age in a single movie for a reason - they wanted to get to new material.  This first episode seems to have been pieced together with the same intention.  It really was a jumbled mess, thanks to the editing, and everything was moving at break neck speed.  The episode shows us that Guts' brand attracks evil spirits, Guts is in constant danger, and he does not bat an eye at taking a life (but not really since he hesitates to kill Colette).  We are reminded of the eclipse, shown some main characters, and get a full demonstration of Guts' arsenal and combat prowess.  The story was butchered to catapault it into the next phase.

My theory - they haven't adapated the story faithfully thus far because they have no confidence in the post eclipse episodes bringing in viewers.  Someone determined incarnation was the way to get the most viewers, so do whatever it takes to get us to that material.  We need a band of heroes facing off against a horde of baddies to make fans.  I hope that once they get to "the starting point" for their adaptation (we aren't there yet, folks) they will slow the hell down and start being faithful.

I don't think this adaptation hurts Berserk and for that much I am grateful.  I am really curious to see how this adaptation goes moving forward.  I think it is entirely possible that we reach a point where the writers believe they have adequately set the table and are ready to present the story accurately.  I could be completely wrong but I'm gonna give this project the benefit of the doubt for a few episodes before I banish it to hell.

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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
« on: June 14, 2016, 12:15:07 PM »
Hey man, you might wanna reread that section of the story or your post because, right now, it sounds like you're bummed that you wont see our hero nonchalantly murder children.   :isidro: We are talking Berserk not Star Wars.

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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
« on: June 10, 2016, 02:45:15 PM »
So season finale is Femto incarnated.  Season 2 will open with the group reaching Skellig. 

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: June 04, 2016, 02:10:47 AM »
I played through Final Fantasy XIII this year and I enjoyed it.  I don't think it deserves all all the hate it gets.  The story and characters were far less cringy than I expected and the battle system was actually really fun to me.  It had been a really long time since I played through a JRPG so coming straight off of XII it might be differen experiencet for you.

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Shootin' the Breeze / Live Chat
« on: May 01, 2016, 05:46:01 AM »
I would love a way to live chat with you folks.  I am a dinosaur so I don't know the best way to go about this these days but maybe we could have our own IRC channel or something?  I really enjoy the podcast and everytime I listen I think about how cool it would be to have a live Q&A at the end.  The forum format seems really formal sometimes so it would be great to just catch everyone around sometime.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: May 01, 2016, 05:36:29 AM »
I've been playing a bunch of PC Engine CD games lately and having a blast.  I picked up a Turbo Duo a few months ago.  I played through Ys Books 1 + 2 recently and I just loved it.  It is an action RPG that has been released on a slew of platforms so it is pretty easy to get your hands on I imagine but the gameplay is ironically very refreshing.  The game was made in a different era and its simplicity is a breath of fresh air.  I'm a bit of a completionist so having a very simply straight forward linear RPG experience that requires only a handful of hours was a pure joy.  It is also extremely charming to play a game that does the absolute best it can while being hamstringed by the technical limitations of its day.

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Video Games / Re: XCOM
« on: April 28, 2016, 03:02:22 AM »
Same exact experience for me!  Loved the gameplay and base building of the remake.  I have all the titles on Steam and just can't get into any of them besides the remake.  I have such a gigantic backlog of games, so little time to play, and with so many different titles vying for my attention that if a game doesn't grab me within a few hours im off to the next title.  I actually finished the story mode several times on different settings because I found it so addictive.

I spent sooo much time playing Enemy Unknown that I avoided the sequel as it has itterated on everything and is eve better (dangerously addictive).

Best part about building a new PC - by the time you've saved the money and built the machine, all the games you want to play will be $10! 



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Berserk Anime / Re: Berserk GA Arc Appreciation Thread
« on: April 27, 2016, 05:09:09 PM »
The first season is an excellent adaptation of Game of Thrones.  That's what hooked everyone and generated megatons of new fans.  Think of the book sales that have been generated as a result of the quality of the first few seasons.  Same exact thing could be said about The Walking Dead.   There are many people dismissive of animated works but Berserk can easily transcend the medium.   If a faithful Berserk adaptation is brought to life it will rock the world of animation and generate tons of new fans and hopefully lead to the saga being adapted to its conclusion. 

That's why I don't like these movies, they are a black mark on the series. 

Edit:  I appreciate you trying to find the silver lining.  Not knocking that.

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Berserk Anime / Re: Berserk GA Arc Appreciation Thread
« on: April 27, 2016, 03:52:24 PM »
I have seen the Redux links around for a long time but never took the time to sit down and check it out.  The trailer is great, I'll definitely be watching soon. 

Almost all of my posts are about the animations.  I might seem overly critical, but Berserk deserves a full and faithful adaption.

I don't need the nuance of the manga in an adaptation. I already have the manga.

I understand that sentiment but this is a work that deserves a larger audicence than a niche manga reading sector of the world.  I just want this masterwork to be seen and appreciated by as many folks as possible and it doesn't do anyone any favors to have the adapations miss the mark.  Think of all the Song of Ice and Fire fans HBO has created.  I'm willing to bet 75% of their audience have not/would not ever read the series.  People will love Berserk if they have a chance to see it and I think that is a win for everybody. 

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Berserk Anime / Re: Berserk GA Arc Appreciation Thread
« on: April 27, 2016, 12:07:47 PM »
Just read your own thread again - http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=14980.msg240127#msg240127

Do you think the movies adequately convey the relationship between Guts and Griffith? 

These movies are nearly universally reviled on this forum because they do more harm than good.  There's a long list of botched scenes and concepts that misrepresent the series to new viewers.  A great many of us had been waiting 10+ years for a worthy animated adaption of the entire series and Studio 4c gave us this.  Would have been better off leaving it alone and waiting for someone who understands the nuances of the series to take the lead.

Having said that,  the best thing about the movies is how they have seemingly forced Miura's hand and he now has a more control of the adaptation going forward.  Well done 4c! 

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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
« on: March 27, 2016, 06:22:10 AM »
It ends with Skully saving the day and taking guts to the cave with Rickert and Erica. Casca is insane and Guts runs off in hysterics when he remembers what happened. He runs until night fall and is attacked by ghosts, and Skully tells him what his new life is going to be. Guts fights all night until dawn, and then we see him leave the cottage with the Dragons Slayer as the Black Swordsman.  Godo is never seen.

Thank you so much of filling me in!  After watching the first movie I decided ignorance is bliss haha. 

Sounds like they botched it a bit BUT the silver lining is that seems like a great outline for strategic flashbacks.  I recently read volume 17 (I think) where Farnese is about to be assaulted by the demon horse.  Guts has PTSD about the eclipse and Puck feels it, comments on it, and we are shown imagery from the eclipse.  That, for example, is a perfect time to break away and show Guts getting the Dragon Slayer or to explain how Casca was able to keep safe without Guts' protection.  As I just said, I'm willing to call all the material covered by the 97 anime and movies a wash and move forward as long as they get it right going forward. 

I know hardly anyone can be bothered to spare a kind word for the movie trilogy team, but you have to admit it is hard to pick up a story now when (forgive me) the "meat" has been shown but we are missing both "buns" (I'm sorry).  You know the folks producing this show want to get to the action and are not going to like opening their hip new show with backstory and exposition.  Remember, we were told the movies were the beginning of the adaption of the entire saga but they made foolish short sighted errors in choosing to focus on the exact same material the 97 anime covered while neglecting to fill the holes necessary to finish the saga.  I think Miura could write his way out of this problem with a wave of his hand but the question is will they follow his lead. 

On another note, I have been spewing posts all over this thread for the past couple of days and I hope it isn't wearing on anyone.  I'm just really excited about being able to show Berserk to people (like my wife) without asking them to read a comic book backwards  :ganishka: 

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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
« on: March 27, 2016, 05:03:43 AM »
I never saw the third movie.   Did they show Skully saving the day?  Did they show the aftermath?  I don't mind them merging black swordsman and conviction if they will stay faithful going forward but how are they gonna fill the viewers in on Casca, Godo, the dragon slayer, on and on.  There is a massively important part of the story that is going to be hard to squeeze into this amalgamation. 

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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
« on: March 26, 2016, 05:44:00 PM »
Hmm, my impression of that trailer is a bit mixed. It looks very low-budget -- perhaps the least visually ambitious Berserk adaptation so far? The sketchy effect on the textures looks like something I've seen in video game cutscenes.

It is supposed to be hatching.  The effect only appears in the shadows.

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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
« on: March 26, 2016, 01:21:34 PM »
I really like the bright colors and palette.  Miura has some beautiful things for the artists to bring to life and I'm glad it's not all grimdark.  I think Puck looks great too. 

What's up with the low frame rate effect  on the animation?  It has to be a stylistic choice.  The last shot of Guts walking towards the camera makes the effect obvious.  Is this a popular fad in anime at the moment?

In any case, if they give us a faithful adaption then Im not going to complain about the visuals....too much.

They are teasing material 17 volumes apart.  Good luck figuring out how this thing gets put together.


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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
« on: March 26, 2016, 02:57:02 AM »

To me, him having that role is a clear indication that he felt he needed to actively make sure the guys wouldn't butcher his work, and I think that decision is a direct result of what happened with the movies. That also likely is a big factor in the current hiatus.


I remember the hiatus before the movies debuted.  There was a lot of speculation that Miura was taking the break to work on the films.  I think you were telling everyone back then not to get our hopes up as it was most likely a regular break.  To  hear you say you think he's working on this actually has me more excited about the project than anything else we've seen or heard.

Think about where we are in the story.  We are on goddamn Skellig!  As badly as we want to see what happens to Casca, I'm sure Miura is even more excited to finally be able to tell us!  If it's true that he is allocating time away from the publications to facilitate work on the series then he must have faith in it...or he just fed up with the incompetence.  Hope I'm not extrapolating into absurdity but seems to me this next year might be the best year for fans in the history of Berserk. 

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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
« on: March 25, 2016, 02:41:58 PM »
...does anyone else think Guts's face looks weird in that picture? It looks like some random swordsman is wearing a rubber Guts mask. I think it may be his mouth/lips and the way the shadows lay that's throwing me off.

His face looks weird to me too.  He looks ashen and or kinda wrinkly.  I'm sure he is supposed to be in full on rage mode so not weird to see his face change a bit but it does look off.   

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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
« on: March 25, 2016, 01:41:53 PM »
Is it possible Miura has put his foot down and decided to take the reigns of this production or is this wishful thinking?

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies to dread
« on: March 23, 2016, 02:14:20 PM »
I was keep my expectations low but still a bummer to hear this movie is a mess.  I think Snyder is great at visuals but that's about it.  It sounds like the movie, despite the source material and the eye candy, is boring.

 I've seen people reviewing the film calling it DCs Aevengers but I don't think that's a fair comparison.  Need to wait for Suicide Squd to throw down that gauntlet.  My hype meter is somewhere around -4 for SS but here's to hoping to be pleasantly surprised l.

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Berserk Anime / Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
« on: January 14, 2016, 03:42:10 AM »
If we, on an English speaking board, are lamenting how terribly the story has been adapted then what must be happening on Japanese boards?  Surely there must be plenty of diehard Berserk sites and forums by/for the Japanese audience.  Our mods here could do better continuity checks off the tops of their heads than the entirety of Studio 4C apparently. 

That image definitely looks like 4C and I'll be saddened when its confirmed they are heading up this project.  I just don't understand it.  If there is this much backlash in the English speaking community then surely it must be 100x worst in the Japanese community.  Why haven't they just reached out to the Japanese equivalent of Aaz, Griff, Walter, etc. for consultation/QA and do this thing right?  They must be getting boatloads of mail from fans begging for them to do this right.  Isn't there some Otaku around that would give his right arm while working pro bono to be a consultant?

At this point, they have to make up so much ground to the fans (and hey how about Miura) they should be on their hands and knees begging for another chance.  The teaser should remove all doubt from our minds and whip us into a goddamn frenzy.  Instead it took all of 10 seconds for people to realize the image is wrong.  If they want to skip the Black Swordsman opening, FINE!!! BUT don't try to retcon the stuff that has been omitted, make an OVA down the line that fills in the gaps.  This is legendary source material!  If they would just adapt the damn story boards given to them on a silver platter then they might actually create something worth watching and, MOST IMPORTANTLY for the studio, actually make $$$$$$$$$$.

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Video Games / Heroes of the Storm
« on: July 24, 2015, 03:38:29 AM »
 :puck:

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