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Speculation Nation / Re: Guts's Lineage
« on: November 07, 2017, 05:05:18 AM »
Well, so far it's unanimous. :guts:

Yeah, humble origins are the way to go with the big guy; he's extraordinary by his own means, not any sort of lineage or predestiny, which perfectly fits his character, makeup and the story's broader themes as they relate to him, as just about everyone has pointed out. So, Miura shouldn't fuck him up like some Jon Snow... on the other hand, he is a Star Wars fan, so maybe he won't be able to resist the pull of "legitimizing" Guts with some kind if impressive background that explains his physical prowess if nothing else. He doesn't have to be Skully's and Flora's secret lovechild (actually Griff makes more sense for Gaiseric blood) to simply have a biological father or mother that were more than average, but if I had to guess I'd assume they'll remain anonymous; for better or worse Shisu and Gambino are Guts' parents.

Or he's an EFL! :puck: :troll:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 27, 2017, 07:24:14 PM »
Part of me wants it to be a film for esoteric nerd reasons, but a series would more easily fit the mold.

Well, there's something to be said for a truly transcendent film, but the problem is the likelihood of that is so small, particularly because it's rarely even attempted over making it more commercial. Blade Runner 2049 is a great example; they really tried in earnest to do it "the right way," and largely pulled it off, but were not rewarded.

That being said, I can count on one hand the number of serialized dramas that have left an impression on me, particularly recently. I feel like these studios have become pros at pushing out lots of content, creating a container with a substantial pitch, pilot and conclusion, and then just filling the rest of the glass with piss. Netflix is in particularly guilty of this, stringing out their series' structure with filler, dragging B-plots on for 5 episodes and then resolving them suddenly in minutes. Ugh... Hey speaking of which guys, Stranger Things 2 is out!

Fair point, I'm also looking at the exceptions, The Sopranos, GoT, etc rather than the rule, which is that most TV is still bad or disappointing, even if there's infinitely more attempts at worthwhile content (or the meaning of that isn't the same as "good" these days). Still, I feel like there's a way better chance and it would be easier to do it justice as a big budget prestige TV project than finding the patience and lightning in a bottle to do a worthwhile film, let alone film series. One advantage Dune would have on TV is they already have plenty of material and another longform media platform would give them the best chance to just make a yeoman's work filming it and let the source do the talking and shine through, so they shouldn't need to resort to the piss jar as you say. Doesn't mean they wouldn't, of course! :carcus: Anyway, I guess they're already doing it as a movie so this is academic at this point, and I agree with the sentiment that Villeneuve giving it a shot is about as promising as anything I can think of, even if it still seems doomed to fall short.

Nope! I'll look for that one. I have a road trip this weekend.

I check in on the show every 6 months or so. Sometimes that show is amazing. But it's absolutely contingent on the guest being solid and receptive to Maron's conversational style. Much of the time, it's just boring to me, or feels like they're running down the clock as much as they can. I have the same problem with WTF as I do with the Jimmy Pardo podcast -- both can  be phenomenal, but it's too much inside baseball. Whether it's comedy or Hollywood, the way they talk about those industries lifts the curtain in a way that's just really off-putting to me.

Cool, but yeah, it has to be a guest I'm into or it's just listening to Maron talk to himself, which if you've heard once is probably enough. The only pods I can stand to listen to semi-regularly are The Bill Simmons podcast, WTF, and... that's about it. I try listening to the Deadcast sometimes but they're awful, and used to listen to Carolla back in the day but again it was the same thing all the time, and Keepin' It 1600/Pod Save America was promptly discarded on November 9th. :ganishka:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 27, 2017, 02:29:43 PM »
I don't think there should be any concerns for that. Lynch's Dune has never been regarded as the authoritative take on the book, so it wouldn't make much sense for Villeneuve to attempt to mimick it.



Instead, I imagine (hope?) that Villeneuve will attempt to offer his interpretation of the novel. This both excites me and makes me uncomfortable. The novel is epic science fiction, and has long deserved a more dignified seat at the table among sci-fi films if anything, just to get more people to read the damned book and realize how awesome it is. The problem is, I don't think Dune is something you can comfortably squeeze into a feature-length film. Even ignoring the vast amount of set up time necessary to digest the arrangement of houses, economy, technology, history that makes the scale of the opening act carry weight, there's a lot of character development, passages of time, that don't lend themselves to a single breezy sit-down experience, even at 2h 44 min. And if the solution is to trim those aforementioned parts, then like Studio4C cutting out the inconvenient Bonfire of Dreams sequence, I'd rather the attempt just not be made. But I'm getting ahead of myself  :void:

Yeah, it's the same problem with a lot of huge book to film adaptations: it needs the Harry Potter multi-film slow roll treatment to even have a chance of being done right (Dark Tower being the latest grand failure), but few things have the juice, or the irrational commitment from masses of fans that the films don't actually need to be objectively good or even very entertaining (hi again, Harry!), for that huge commitment upfront, and I don't think Dune is one of them despite being perhaps the most renowned sci-fi novel of all time (my first generation nerd dad is still so proud of his first edition :carcus:). On the other hand, I don't even think a film series is the best choice for something like this for the reasons you laid out, and a TV series is obviously no longer the death sentence by low expectations it once was, but rather often finer drama than anything at the movies these days (like I said, as good as 2049 was, it can't help but feel shallow compared to, say, Westworld). Calling HBO? Netflix? Amazon (which we heard wants it's own GoT)? You guys have any billions left to bring Dune to life, even as a write off? It'll be better received now than the Confederate fanfic written by male Hollywood power players, I promise! =)

It's funny that you bring that up, because a significant chunk of the creative energies behind Jodorowsky's ill-fated Dune were eventually what gave birth to Alien.

Oh yeah, that mini-golden age was so incestuous! I heard Walter Hill talk about it a bit on the WTF pod, I don't know if you heard it (I know you've been a listener in the past) but it's worth it for that alone.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: October 27, 2017, 02:17:22 PM »
Sucked into Super Mario Odyssey, everyone. The game is wonderful.

Thanks to the Wii U version of BotW I was never really under pressure to make a decision on Switch, but now... this feeling...


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I acknowledge this will make me sound like an old man, but is Rick & Morty from the same mind as House of Cosbys?

Yup! But not old, just astute. As a matter of fact, Rick & Morty's Internet precursor, a takeoff on Back to the Future's Doc and Marty, is a direct result of the legal trouble House of Cosby's faced and basically a big fuck you to Universal in the form of a cartoon about Doc Brown finding different pretexts to get Marty McFly to lick his balls. :ganishka:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 26, 2017, 10:26:41 PM »
Can't be bothered to read all those posts (please forgive me)

You could at least pretend :judo: ... like me. :griffnotevil:

here's my take on Blade Runner 2049: I thought the movie was good enough. There's some nice photography in there, although the shots are way too clean. They lack the grit of the original, they often feel sterile and some scenes really look CGI'd (specifically at the beginning when we see the car in the rain). But it is a visually pleasing movie.

Yeah, for the world being worse off everything seemed somehow more clean and uniform (and some of those exterior landscape shots were indeed looking like fog in a video game, but I think the change(s) in style befit the changes in the times and the director. It's its own style of Blade Runner, yet somehow nothing can top those practical and composite effects from fucking 1982. I mean, it looks more real because it was more real. It was Replicant versus Joi technology; we didn't know any better than to actually build it. =)

The music also did a decent enough job evoking Vangelis, if somewhat crudely.

*BRRAAAAAANG* I didn't know I signed up for the vibrating X-D experience, but it apparently came free.

The story's not too bad, although it's got its share of inconsistencies. But it's not stupid and it tries to have meaning. In that regard the movie could have been much much worse.

I didn't realize until I saw his name that Hampton Fancher had come back, which helps explain how it's such a comfortably elegant offshoot of the original rather than a ripoff or totally out there re-imagining like these things usually go when a "fan of the original" gets hold of it. Feels like an authentic sequel and organic follow-up, albeit clearly of a different cinematic age and ilk. It basically feels like a next generation sequel to a classic game.

That being said, the Joi subplot really overstays its welcome and feels like it wanted to be its own movie but was grafted onto this one instead. I appreciated that for all its artificiality, the story played her character straight (she appears to have her own will all along), that lends it more depth than it ought to have. But still, I think those themes were better addressed in Star Trek Voyager.

:ganishka:

What hasn't Star Trek done better (and worse =)? But yeah, I couldn't really get with Joi in the moment, though it added another layer most films (including this one according to the box office=) cannot afford. And the final inference that it was all bullshit, in contrast to the "more human than human" Replicants, was satisfying to me since that was pretty much my visceral reaction. I look forward to the day when I have to apologize for this and all my virtualphobia on twitter before my cyber identity is formally executed and I have to live in exile with the troglodytes, a fate worse than death.

Harrison Ford basically plays himself and not Deckard (like he does in all movies these days), which is unfortunate.

He was a feisty Ford, but no not very much like "cold fish" Deckard. I don't really see how living in exile for decades would unlock his passions either, but maybe he went stir crazy. Again, it probably didn't help they didn't even try a costume or hair and makeup or anything. Harrison Ford looks the same in all his interviews as his movies nowadays. Try a little theater magic, guys, just put the old costume on him and see what happens. BTW, I also wasn't sold on the romanticizing of his relationship with Rachael. It wasn't some great ideal love, far from it, and it was desperate and ultimately about survival for them both and that's what I liked about it. It was like that thread in 2049 followed the studio's theatrical ending instead.

The limitations of Ryan Gosling's acting are also visible despite his character being emotionless on purpose, which says a lot.

He was a bit of a noble cipher for us and the Relipcants as a group I felt.

I did like Leto's portrayal of Wallace, though the drones felt totally unnecessary and seem like some that will age terribly. I think Luv was well-acted too.

These two had the most interesting performances but the least to do and we don't really get to the bottom of them! Leto is just mysteriously evil and Luv seems to have a lot going on under the surface but we don't really get at it besides her misused Replicant pride. Also I didn't think those drones looked good NOW; it was like the scarabs from Brendan Fraser's The Mummy or something.

Anyway, did this movie need to exist? No. But I'm Ok with it existing.

This is basically the softer interpretation I've come around to from my initial disappointments. The movie does some good or even great things and ultimately does no harm so I'm happier that we have it than don't. It's about as sincere, faithful and worthy an effort at a follow up like this that could be attempted at this point... so of course Ridley Scott had relatively little to do with it. :ganishka: Even it's box office shortcomings give it a badge of honor in my eyes; they went for the real ponderous sci-fi shit and oaid the price rather than make some nightmare Michael Bay version of Blade Runner (like Scott did with Alien, ironically).

I'm also fine with Villeneuve trying his hand at Dune (my favorite novel).

As long as he doesn't have the same reverence for David Lynch's version that he clearly does for Blade Runner. :ganishka:

What if Ridley Scott had done Dune back in his prime and we ended up with an impeccable sci-fi trilogy of Alien, Dune, and Blade Runner... Of course, we might not have got Blade Runner then, at least not the same one, and no guarantees anybody, even 79-82 Scott, can pull off Dune (and some would argue Lynch didn't do half bad for a supposedly "unfilmmable" work).

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Throwing tantrums at McDonald's over a dipping sauce.

Yeah, I saw that, but that's just stupid and obnoxious. Worse would be the bitching about/attacking the shows women writers, but I'm still failing to see the distinction between them and... The Internet? Anyway, I'm not defending them or saying they aren't terrible (I can definitely see how a bunch of Rick wannabes could be a problem), but it's just that I only ever hear the secondhand backlash which makes my natural skepticism kick in so it seems more like a Rick & Morty meme than them actually being exceptionally worse than all the other obnoxious or toxic fanbases online.

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Video Games / Re: Dark Souls II
« on: October 26, 2017, 07:08:24 PM »
But yeah, I was reading earlier in the thread that the expansions give the game true validity, so the decision was strictly a no-brainer outside of my quirkiness.

They're definitely the high point of the gameplay and way up there in terms of difficulty. They also add to, fortify, and unify the game's theme(s). It's basically like a bunch of mini-Dark Souls games about fallen Kingdoms rolled into one. Another reason that while DSII isn't the best Dark Souls, it's definitely the most Dark Souls (though 3 does double and even triple down its most iconic lore depending how you define "most").

The Guts build sounds awesome. I remember finding the Dragon Bone Smasher on one of my Demon's Souls playthroughs (with little effort, I got the precise world tendency through sheer unintended circumstance) and feeling a little bit like Guts. This was when all I had seen of Berserk was the 1997 anime. DBS became my main weapon throughout the entire file's playthrough lol I really am praying they remaster Demon's Souls with 60 FPS so I can play it all over again in current-gen glory. I'd probably try all sorts of weapon combinations

I hope so too, though if my brother in law gets a PS4 for Christmas I'm borrowing his PS3 for a long overdue Demon's Souls run. Then I just need to get at Bloodborne finally... fuckin' Sony and their exclusives they never put all on one system. Anyway, I think I'm getting bored of Guts-Build and more just the game in general (time to finish soloing bosses I never played like Darklurker and get out), though I added the bonefist for more beastly melee and even his iconic flying attack on Grunbeld. :ganishka:

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Vagabond / Re: Inoue News Archive
« on: October 26, 2017, 06:53:30 PM »
Hmm, so ah... I guess I'll ask: What about Vagabond?

Maybe we should rename the thread Inoue News & Not News, the latter covering Vagabond. :sad:

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Avoid the fanbase for the most part. It's toxic as hell and kind of ruins the show.

Also avoid the comments like this in every Rick & Morty discussion, and I've seen it almost verbatim several times in just regular articles on the show, that also kind of attempts to ruin the show. What the hell are Rick & Morty fans doing out there to get this reputation anyway, short of actually killing people? If toxic fanbases ruined things we'd have to quit all TV, sports, movies, and AHEM, video games. :carcus: Plus politics and humanity in general.

Better yet, just avoid fanbases altogether... present company excluded, of course. :slan:

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Speculation Nation / Re: So i have this theory
« on: October 25, 2017, 09:44:50 PM »
I think all the, relatively, recent emphasis on it's properties as a "key" is a not so subtle indication where things are going, but how we're going to get there and in what state is the interesting part (we can't even be sure how it works anymore in a post-Fantasia world). But like Aaz says, nobody is going to remember our half-baked theories by the time it comes to fruition, so we might as well go nuts: Casca uses it to separate Griffith and the child... somehow? :ganishka: :???:

Or, the more chalk answer, Guts uses it to fast access/confront/kill God Hand(s).

"Who do you wish to sacrifice, struggler? ..." :void:

 :guts: "... YOU, MOTHERFUCKER!" *CLANG* :badbone: <(Surprise! And that's my name for him!)

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Video Games / Re: Dark Souls II
« on: October 23, 2017, 04:10:07 PM »
I'm going to withhold my final verdict until I play through the ps4 version of this game which contains all the DLC. Maybe I'm crazy or maybe I'm a fiend, but I really feel like playing more Dark Souls. And well I need to get through the ps4 version of DS2 before I can play Bloodborne and DS3, because of how quirky I am.

But anyway yeah, that's my sh*tty progress report  :guts:

Hahaha, first you hated it, now you're replaying it (and I bet you still hate it)! It's Dark Souls II, everybody. But yeah, I highly recommend SotFS for the included DLC and other upgrades that add a little more polish and cohesion to the game.

My over-souled Guts build is tearing through NG+, very versatile, especially with a bleed dagger and knuckle (false arm punch =) as quick hitting alternate weapons (and I settled on the Dark Black Cryptsword for good). The only drawback really is the lack of a bow for enemies it would be useful to snipe or aggro from a distance, but that's not Guts style anyway. Ah well, it's definitely fun causally destroying the same hordes and bosses that gave me such trouble when I was starting out, but they're all kind of the same now.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 20, 2017, 07:26:20 PM »
Hey, HELLO!? Is anybody out there? Don't mind the double post because it's the only Breeze post since my last; this is my de facto blog now. :slan:

Anyway, 2049 has stayed with me, a good thing, and thus my stance on it has softened around it's admirable traits as a worthy visionary successor rather than persisiting technical difficulties (like a DNA test? =). Before I see it again without the clouded eyes of expectations I've been scratching the itch it through other media, and came by this review by none other than Hideo Kojima:

http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/features/kojima-dreams-of-blade-runner-w509779

"Starring George Harrison" Now THAT would be a technical marvel, but I'm blaming a caption editor for that one. :ganishka:

Anyway, I appreciated the insightful, personal and straight-forward analysis of the piece and joked to myself if it's truly representative of his work it should go completely off the rails with confused metaphors in the second half... and then he did with the weird replicant motif! But not much, just a little nonsensical, and mostly superficial, which is kind like 2049 to the original (but with more heart and emotionally resonant storytelling throughout).

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Video Games / Re: Dark Souls II
« on: October 18, 2017, 12:06:35 AM »
Welp, I finally, all these year's later, started DSII NG+ after finishing all the DLC. I may be over-prepared now though as I farmed the Giant Lord quite a bit after finishing the DLC (if I'd done that before I'd have rolled through it years ago) and am like lvl 350 something... sooo, NG+ isn't proving too difficult despite the extra enemies and handicaps, and I'm definitely able to solo it. :ganishka:

Oh, another thing in DSII's favor, it has my favorite Dark Souls parody cartoon (surprisingly large genre=) that really captures the game's quirks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kr7KDCsIws


Update: Out of boredom I switched to a Guts build: vengarl helm, forlorn armor, drakekeeper gloves/pants. Right hand: Dark Greatsword, Dagger. Left: Pyromancy flame, 3 shot repeating crossbow. Spells: great fireball (canon), flame weapon & immolation (blaze wheel). Red eye ring (brand). Bombs and throwing knives of course. I so want to cheat and unify the dark and fire buffs on the weapon to one or the other for max damage but that would be cheating the concept and variety's good too =). Also vacillating between the Greatsowrd and the Crypt Blackwood for its own resemblance to the DS and primo damage, but it's a bit short and fat and the moveset isn't as true (plus kinda sucks) to Guts and the DS (especially effective for jumping in the action and/or being surrounded), so I'm using the Greatsword for now. Unsurprisingly I guess, this is actually a very effective offensive build! :ganishka: Lots of fun, tears things up, and I even managed to get under 50% weight(!) so I can move like I'm using the Beast Armor too. Plus, it's just fun to imagine Guts taking on all these Dark Souls bosses. Anyway, it's breathed new life into my NG+ run.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: October 17, 2017, 11:49:24 PM »
I got a massive deja vu from this comment.


Is it future or is it past?
Wow!  My face while watching. :ganishka: Alex should ditch his dayjob and become the key Twin Peaks theorycrafter.

I actually found the whole thing, and while I couldn't get through more than a minute more than what appears in the Peaks video, he's actually talking about some conspiracy concerning the elites being vampire pedophiles with the aim of becoming one with the machines!(!?) :carcus: Eat your heart out, David Lynch!


Also, if you found The Return's ending to be a bit abrupt, here's a coda for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdEINFmMn4M

Well... you can't argue with that! :isidro: :magni:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 14, 2017, 03:34:29 PM »
Fixed.

Except the other error there is that "Deckard" is actually wearing a costume instead of his around-the-house clothes from Target.


Pictured: The 2049 costume department.


Kidding aside, another random note on the film's immersive atmosphere and even more depressing than 2019 world was all the Fallout vibes I got from it, particularly Fallout: New Vegas (I don't think I've seen it better portrayed in a movie). That was a new twist for Blade Runner, and it felt like a more sparse world overall, despite Los Angeles 2049 being more jam-packed than ever (you can hardly see the obtrusive advertising from the air between the cracks in the apartment buildings as Wally noted). It's a far more devastated and dystopian future. Oh, and the location of Los Angeles' dumping grounds got a smile out of me. =)

On a much more random note: Channel surfing this morning we came upon the memorably putrid robot child sitcom Small Wonder, which I liked as a kid, but which my wife revealed to me gave her some existential crisis or "reality spiral" about whether or not she was or the woeld was real and how could she tell!? :magni: so, her big mind expanding/blowing "Blade Runner" or Matrix experience was Small Wonder. :ganishka:

BTW, I think 2049's cut and dry Human/Replicant themes also suffer in the wake of Westworld, which was like a 10 week course on the subject by comparison.


Update: Bummed the box office numbers aren't better for 2049; it's not even competing with something in it's class, but then the original Blade Runner was a box office failure too (and it's not THAT bad yet) so maybe this is a cred builder longterm. If it was some popular Star Wars-like blockbuster then it wouldn't be Blade Runner. Too bad that's what it takes to make sci-fi hit though.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 14, 2017, 05:58:22 AM »
I want in on this cut!

I basically just cut out the conspiracy that needlessly drags out 20 minutes after the story's emotional climax and doesn't actually change any of the consequences (Cruise's character already disproved pre-cogging in the most meaningful of ways).

Then you liked the movie  :badbone:

You may be right! I see now you weren't any more thrilled by the plot than I was. For some reason I got the expectation, probably from the hyperlative reviews, that the story was going to be some mind-blowing feature going in, so I was continually looking for payoffs there rather than the film's actual strengths (atmosphere, visuals, tone, world, emotion, etc).

As for some of your other observations: the resolution didn't really mean much to me because it was between two characters with about fifteen minutes of combined screen time in a three hour movie and didn't really change anything. It was pretty much a MacGuffin payoff, whereas the original used the events of the film and the experiences of the characters to build to its conclusion and give it weight (I couldn't help but regard Ford's final question to K as unintentionally revealing, as in the answer should be "not much," for the audience as well). I also agree with you about a certain character and subplot that could have been cut altogether, but at least there was something there for the protagonist as Incantation pointed out (this movie is almost more a subplot itself around events that would be a sequel to the central conflict in Blade Runner, but it never really gets there either). I just don't think that character and what she represented was developed enough as a concept and should have been employed either more or much less (it also kind of confused the main theme unless it was supposed to be so obviously "less than" to bolster the case for the replicants). Finally, I thought the "big questions" got muddled and lost in favor of a pretty damn reductive, and ludicrous without further explanation, biological litmus test that shouldn't define one's humanity in any case. Han Solo: That's not how personhood works!

So, more story bitching from me, but I get the appeal too, I wasn't having a bad time watching the movie, I was into it and enjoyed the experience and just being there in that world. Plus it did its own thing and wasn't generally embarrassing or cringe-worthy in either reverence or irreverence, but it's also boring, nothing happens, and it never really goes anywhere (criticisms of the original to be fair) or gives you much to think about (the first did, and in this case, if you're making a movie for fans already thinking three moves ahead, there should probably should have been more than three moves =). I'll see what I think on a second viewing, but that probably won't be for a while.

Also, here's a poster for how my viewing of Blade Runner 2049 got started:




No match for the real thing of course:


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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 14, 2017, 01:15:13 AM »
I still haven't caught up on the thread yet and am posting this on the go, but... I kind of didn't like it! :ganishka: Like I'm still waiting for it to get good but it ended 30 minutes ago and now I'm just waiting for pizza. I did dig the atmosphere, I'm definitely skulking around with an ominous Goslian look on my face (great casting for that part btw, definitely the role he was born to play =), but... I don't know what this was about and it didn't make me much care. The main conceit was a bit absurd to me, they don't really get into the nuts and bolts of it, and we're told it's so important but... I still don't see why (the good guys, bad guys, and their motives are all a bit muddled, incestuous and inconsequential)? I think the main thing even sorta misses the point, one could argue. Anyway, I thought it was all a bit simple, superficial and, given the relative lack of sizzle, all seasoning and no steak. Great seasoning though, top shelf, but where's the electronic mutton?

Disclaimer: That's my first impression though, which is often negative, the movie did have an affect on me and I'm still thinking about it, but we'll see if I'm haunted and drawn back, or if it's just lost in time, like tears in... forget it! Gotta get to my meeting. I'll be back when I've gathered my thoughts and read more impressions from this thread and elsewhere.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 13, 2017, 02:46:43 PM »
Well, I got my ticket to 2049 at 3:30pm after work, before I have to come back for an 8pm meeting, but the fucking movie is so long I had to bypass a theater a few blocks away because it doesn't start there until "4:30pm" and if they don't it get going before five I might not have time to get back and setup for my own meeting! :ganishka: So, given the date I decided to play it safe with the earlier showtime and a short drive. Will update with my thoughts when I can (when I finally read the thread after the embargo I had to put on a few days back =).

As an aside, at first I tried making a date to see it with my dad this weekend, as I first watched the original with him like 20 years ago  (:isidro:), but, despite the positive word of mouth and his only begotten son wanting to take him, he's going to wait for it to hit cable. :schierke: BOOOOOO! Well, then I'm not coming to visit this weekend, dad!

Update:
The fire alarm went off during the trailers! Will update/consolidate posts later. :ganishka:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 10, 2017, 09:44:01 PM »
I have nothing against Interstellar, even though it didn't resonate with me all that much, and I do think that it will go down in history as an important movie, after all, not many movies result in scientific papers

Yeah right, you're probably just here to defend Edge of Tomorrow!

but I do think that you were a bit harsh on Edge of Tomorrow.

A-ha!

Sure, it can be labelled as a one trick pony and gimmicky, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially when the one trick and the gimmick are well done and accomplish what they set out to do (except in terms of box office, as Edge of Tomorrow didn't quite perform as expected). I personally found Edge of Tomorrow to be quite entertaining, even on repeat viewings, and I think there are many other positives in the movie in addition to it being entertaining (Bill Paxton, anyone? :carcus:). I wouldn't say that movies of the quality of Edge of Tomorrow are all that typical or that they come out as frequently as every year, but that's just my opinion based on my experience with movies, which I admit is probably limited.

I enjoyed Edge of Tomorrow too, it's good, but I also think it benefited from being surprisingly good (the all time champs of this phenomenon being Rise of the Planet of Apes, the first Pirates of the Caribbean, and one more big one that escapes me atm...), whereas the hype around Interstellar kind of put it in a no-win place (save for the box office) of being transcendent or bust, and I thought it was much closer to the former, at least a credible attempt, than given credit, or even the credit given to less ambitious movies. So, I didn't mean to pick on Edge of Tomorrow so much as point out what I see as a double standard. Like, just come up with a cool Twilight Zone idea and we'll rave but don't get too ambitious or we'll be disappointed!

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« on: October 10, 2017, 04:51:48 PM »
I like that they put Carrie Fisher in the center of the poster. A nice gesture.

I mean, she is Princess General fucking Leia, and it's not like they gave her the extra large top spot like Luke. =)

It looks better than the previous one in my opinion. We'll see.

Yeah... it's all pretty general in that trailer so I hope there's meat on them bones. It can't live off being a successful revival in itself like the last did with some aplomb. Now it has to stand on its own and I'm not sure this whole raw power/grey Jedi thing is that inherently interesting to me, so we'll have to see what they actually do with it.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 10, 2017, 04:40:21 PM »
I agree.

And to be fair, the movie does represent different POVs or aspects of science and humanity with Mann and Hathaway at opposite ends of the spectrum and Michael Caine and Coop somewhere in-between. Coop will earnestly make the hard choices, but he's altruistic, honest and not cruel. Him going after her at the end was a nice conclusion.

Do you have any recommandations?

My point was there aren't many like Interstellar and it should be more appreciated and elevated above the typical alien, cyborg, and time travel gimmick movies that come every year like Christmas and get a pass (they're basically just thrillers with a sci-fi twist). But, uh, Aliens and Star Trek? :guts:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 10, 2017, 02:45:26 AM »
It's a sliding scale, not a binary. And Interstellar is like early 90s Nickelodeon: GAK'D!!!

It definitely plays up the emotion, but the guy did basically anandon his family if you're looking for the hard stuff. :carcus: I think the turning point is what's-her-name's clumsy love speech; the idea there could have been conveyed much better.

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Nope Blade Runner transcends film as a medium, and the final words are "Cyber Rosebud."

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I bet that would be a Leto line.

I also loved Interstellar! :schnoz:

Yeah, but it's much softer than all those other aspirational sci-fi movies about interstellar space travel, black holes, relatively, and humanity.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« on: October 10, 2017, 02:24:40 AM »
Pretty cool, but the whole "raw powah!" thing is a bit overwrought, and of course it spoiled the whole movie. :ganishka:

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