I don't think a black hole would stop with just a few countries. It won't be selective destruction.avidwriter said:B) We lose some countires/land mass
I don't think a black hole would stop with just a few countries. It won't be selective destruction.avidwriter said:B) We lose some countires/land mass
COSMIC RAYS
The LHC, like other particle accelerators, recreates the natural phenomena of cosmic rays under controlled laboratory conditions, enabling them to be studied in more detail. Cosmic rays are particles produced in outer space, some of which are accelerated to energies far exceeding those of the LHC. The energy and the rate at which they reach the Earth’s atmosphere have been measured in experiments for some 70 years. Over the past billions of years, Nature has already generated on Earth as many collisions as about a million LHC experiments – and the planet still exists. Astronomers observe an enormous number of larger astronomical bodies throughout the Universe, all of which are also struck by cosmic rays. The Universe as a whole conducts more than 10 million million LHC-like experiments per second. The possibility of any dangerous consequences contradicts what astronomers see - stars and galaxies still exist.
Microscopic black holes
Nature forms black holes when certain stars, much larger than our Sun, collapse on themselves at the end of their lives. They concentrate a very large amount of matter in a very small space. Speculations about microscopic black holes at the LHC refer to particles produced in the collisions of pairs of protons, each of which has an energy comparable to that of a mosquito in flight. Astronomical black holes are much heavier than anything that could be produced at the LHC.
MICROSCOPIC BLACKHOLES
According to the well-established properties of gravity, described by Einstein’s relativity, it is impossible for microscopic black holes to be produced at the LHC. There are, however, some speculative theories that predict the production of such particles at the LHC. All these theories predict that these particles would disintegrate immediately. Black holes, therefore, would have no time to start accreting matter and to cause macroscopic effects.
Although stable microscopic black holes are not expected in theory, study of the consequences of their production by cosmic rays shows that they would be harmless. Collisions at the LHC differ from cosmic-ray collisions with astronomical bodies like the Earth in that new particles produced in LHC collisions tend to move more slowly than those produced by cosmic rays. Stable black holes could be either electrically charged or neutral. If they had electric charge, they would interact with ordinary matter and be stopped while traversing the Earth, whether produced by cosmic rays or the LHC. The fact that the Earth is still here rules out the possibility that cosmic rays or the LHC could produce dangerous charged microscopic black holes. If stable microscopic black holes had no electric charge, their interactions with the Earth would be very weak. Those produced by cosmic rays would pass harmlessly through the Earth into space, whereas those produced by the LHC could remain on Earth. However, there are much larger and denser astronomical bodies than the Earth in the Universe. Black holes produced in cosmic-ray collisions with bodies such as neutron stars and white dwarf stars would be brought to rest. The continued existence of such dense bodies, as well as the Earth, rules out the possibility of the LHC producing any dangerous black holes.
See, this reasoning is what concerns meGuts' intestines said:I wonder if there may actually be more of a reason to be concerned, but scientists think not so I'm down.
Walter said:See, this reasoning is what concerns me
avidwriter said:So there is a small chance that A) the world ends B) We lose some countires/land mass
Walter said:
Deci said:At first I could've sworn I read "Large Hardon Collider".
But honestly, I'm not going to pretend to know anything about this, but it definitely sounds cool. Maybe they should wait until 2012 before they activate it.
The Mayans imagined a ‘hand’ of five ages each of 1,040 years, four of them normal sized ‘fingers’ and a fifth, the hidden one that is the thumb or Thorp Age, as the Final Shorter Age. This shorter age ends in the year 2011 or 2012, or just 5124 years from its start year of 3113 B.C... The start date should ‘ring a bell’, as it was when De Dan was founded in Egypt. The Mayan Five World Ages of 1,040 years each equals a period of 5,200 years, five of which equals the same 26,000 year Precession of Equinox as used in several Narmer and Ausar Calendars, and correctly counts in five periods the Precession or wobble that the Earth makes around the North Pole and star. In this final Fifth World Age with its adjusted end year of 2011/12 a very unique event happens: the Earth and the Solar system of the Sun and the Planets are all lined up on a plane, on the same horizon as is the ‘black hole’ at the center of our spiral galaxy, the Milky Way. This happens only once every 26,000 years, or 5 x s 5,200 years, and will happen in 2011/12. The 2011 event is made in synch with the 5200 year period by ‘shaving’ the period of 76 years from the last Mayan House of 5200 years, making it the Thorp or fifth 'thumb' digit age. The 2011/12 year is also in synch with the Star Regulus (Basilicas) in the sign of Leo since 153 B.C. moves into Virgo in 2012 A.D...
Vampire_Hunter_Bob said:Isn't the Mayan calender supposedly off by a few thousands years or just in general inaccurate?
Is that really a theory?avidwriter said:Well here is my theory. Time is man-made. Time doesn't really exist.
avidwriter said:Well here is my theory.
avidwriter said:Well here is my theory. Time is man-made. Time doesn't really exist. It’s just something we created to keep track of things easier. Earth does not know time, plants do not know time, etc. So 2012 is non-existent to everything beyond humans. Hence any "day of the end of the world" is BS.
Vampire_Hunter_Bob said:Isn't the Mayan calender supposedly off by a few thousands years or just in general inaccurate?
Guts' intestines said:Actually its more accurate than our calendar. You can look it up but I saw a special on it and its said to be something like a thousandth of a day more accurate, its accuracy is a given because the Mayans knew the that the celestial bodies would come into alignment thousands of years before 2012 many believe they based the game of kicking a ball through a hoop on a wall to represent the sun passing in front of the dark space in the center of the Milky way, their extensive knowledge of astronomy is what makes historians regret not having more of their artifacts and writings today.
Vampire_Hunter_Bob said:Then if our calendars are off how would they know 2012 is going to be dooms/whatever day?
Lithrael said:2012 isn't a Mayan doomsday event anyway, it's just when the Mayan calendar rolls over. Like hitting 100,000 on a five digit odometer.
The LHC is super sweet. :)
A.C said:What does "improved" LHC mean? Any specifics?
These [upgrades] include the major replacement of several accelerators in the LHC proton-injector chain, upgrades of the LHC-interaction regions and enhancements to the general-purpose experiments ATLAS and CMS.
ELEKTRO said:boys and girls get your doomsday drinks ready only only 15.5 more hours to go! no, no, no, it won't be a flop like the Y2k
http://www.lhcountdown.com/
fuxberg said:Maybe the Mayan calendar ends at 2012 because they died and couldn't continue it..