Nope, that’s probably the most intelligent open-minded thing said in this thread all day.anyway, it's really, really, really hard for me to accept that griffith reborn is EXACTLY the same as any of the previous incarnations of griffith. anybody have a problem with that nice blanket statement?
Well, Griffith did have a little smile at the end of 182 when he mentioned getting his dream (it seemed like he was genuinely happy talking about it, like he used to be), but then he said/warned that nothing would stop him and he became very cold and threatening, even Guts looked afraid.When after the fight with Zeddo,Gatts sees Gritffith;Griffith says to him that his only will for now is to reach his dream and get his own land and castle...
Absolutely no emotion looks on his face(no condescendance,no hate,no will to be forgiven...).
I don't tink a human heart,even the srongest is able to hide such things,even Griffith is become a sort of god made with flesh and blood...
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The main difference between past Griffith and Griffith reborn is for me that past Griffith was able to take away his dream some moments just to enjoy present moment with his friends,but reborn Griffith is "programmed" ,and he's alone,no human's minds arround him...
Will be interesting to see what happens with that Girl who might become his prophet...
I think it’s because he chooses not to share his emotions because it was those same emotions that betrayed his dream before. But, I can imagine Griffith thinking the Hawks fondly (it would interesting to see if he dreamt about them, or even has a nightmare), especially in comparison with his present company, like Guts, perhaps Griffith will learn to appreciate what he gave up for his dream. But he won’t let it stop him, he’ll suffer with it, but he won’t let it get in the way. Like I’ve said, getting his dream will be the easy part, the emotional journey is is what’s going to be rough…Yeah... but is this because he can not feel those emotions, or because he has nobody to share them with?
Yeah, so they can start makin’ with the love! ;D Seriously though, I really look forward to it as well, probably the most powerful moment in the series we can be sure is going to happen, I can’t wait to see what he feels when he sees her again.I'm looking forward for Griffith meeting Charlotte again, myself...
Guts....What did you get? I.... -THE END-I really look forward to it as well, probably the most powerful moment in the series we can be sure is going to happen, I can’t wait to see what he feels when he sees her again.
-Griffith
um... if femto had no emotions, no motivation other than to serve godhand, why would he rape caska in the first place?
I really look forward to it as well, probably the most powerful moment in the series we can be sure is going to happen, I can’t wait to see what he feels when he sees her again.
Yeah, but Griffith also doesn’t NEED an Apostle army really, Zodd could defeat any opposition alone, he’s been defeating entire armies for 300 years and I’d bet Griffith could do it alone as well. I don’t think it’s just for having a positive kingdom as you put it, I think that certainly is a part of it, but there’s more to it as well. He seems to be trying to get the throne in a fashion similar to how he was going to take it before, even if it is only a charade, he wants it the way he envisioned getting it, it’s an issue of control. I also think its another example of Griffith’s sentimentality and denial.he doesn't NEED legitimacy anymore, he'll have an apostle army.
Yes, he seemed astonished that she legitimately cared for him that much, sure, he had many admirer’s and followers, but Charlotte was different, she seemed to truly care about Griffith the man, not just the persona. While on the subject, when Charlotte took the hit for Griffith she did it at a time when he felt very betrayed by everybody, even if he didn’t have real feelings for before that he certainly felt something for her afterwards; whether it’s love or a sense of allegiance (compounded by the fact that he was only using her before) I couldn’t say, perhaps both. We’ll see how he really feels when he sees her.It has a very strange effect on him. It infers that she meant more to him than just a one-nighter.
Good point, but I think Griffith wants his power to be official and absolute, I don’t think he’ll settle for simply running things behind the scenes, he wants HIS OWN kingdom.Plus, Charlottes 'advisor to the throne' title is up for grabs (according to volume 17) so Griffith would technically be the real man behind the scenes
That’s exactly it, he should see it that way considering the circumstances. Griffith needs no army, Apostle or otherwise to defeat the Kushan and win the hearts of the people of Midland, the man is already a religious icon, their divine savior, their messiah. He would be fulfilling the Falcon of Light prophesy to the letter if he single-handedly saved Midland from destruction, any odd powers he was observed using (like turning into a Griffin or something) would simply legitimize his status as a deity. I think he wants try and gain his dream on his own terms, win it for himself like it should be, but that’s impossible under these conditions no matter how he goes about it because he’s simply serving God Hand’s purpose. I really think he’s fooling himself.I think that Griffith does not see building an army and taking a kingdom the old fashioned way as a charade.
I personally don’t think Griffith has changed much either, but his situation certainly has, and there’s the problem; his refusal to acknowledge that fact. If he truly wants a peaceful and good kingdom, then the people of Midland are the least of his worries. I also want to bring something up now that’s been bothering me since Locus showed up and hasn’t really been discussed yet. How loyal are these Apostles to Griffith? Why do the Apostles follow him? Why are they helping him gain a position of unlimited power? Because when Griffith is in power, they’re in power too, literally ruling the world, and we all know how Apostles rule. So, sure, they bow to him now, but what if Griffith and his new “followers” don’t quite see eye to eye down the road, what if he tries to deny them the type of power that they so desire? How loyal will they be to him then, is his word law as the God Hand reborn, will they obey his commands no matter how they feel about it? I think not, so the real question is, no matter what his intention may be, what kind of Kingdom is Griffith building if it’s a kingdom built on the sweat of Apostles; one’s that will likely expect a large gratuity in return for their services?I do not think that Griffith has changed that much, more jaded and cynic about his own human frailties of course, but I still think that his dream of the castle means more than just being on top, being a tyrant. So the people matters to him, he might be prepared to sacrifice them, but he was always ready to sacrifice himself as well.
Even so, my point stands, you state your idea’s and opinions as if they are facts that us dolts are just unaware of, then you condescendingly comment on other peoples theories and ideas with little or no proof to dispute them. I’m sorry if I was curt but I believed what I said when I said it, I doubt any of my theories (or anyone else’s for that matter) will come true and you state yours like there’s no other possibility, it’s very annoying to some, me included.Oh my, you are a frail soul indeeed. My arrogant presumtions eh?
Well I did catch up, and I saw griffis save cascka from the rocks zodd splashed all over the place.
And don't get too cocky man, have you ever actually THOUGHT about other people posts. I don't write stuff to piss you off, I hope to get a feedback so I may compare to my opinion. You are so hasty to reply with a completely negative comment. Are you Miura? If so, may I have an autogram please?
Why is she important if he’s just a cold inhuman monster? You also didn’t give me a reason why Griffith is playing the hero if he is going to be evil anyway?Why do you think he did it?
Caska has a very important role since she is his mother.
That wasn't me, it was Olivier I believe, so take it up with him.And about that name speculation, Miura did say he wanted to name his character as katze, the german for cat. It's in his art book, ok? You just bugged it off with a "bad translation" comemnt. Thanx a lot. I checked it and it's no bad translation.