My posts are better.
Yeah, and it is sort of funny that what they both have to say, total, is, "Hi."Eluvei said:Oh, so both Yoshiokas show up. I was afraid Deshichiro wouldn't, because he doesn't say anything to show up in the translation.
Yeah, that could be an important distinction in this case, and I wondered about it as well when I read it. Earlier in the translation it does make that distinction with Otsu calling him Takezo, so I can only assume this was consistent, and accurate, with that, or that it could truly be taken either way.Eluvei said:That Munisai portion is very beautiful, one of the best so far. But I wonder if he really calls him Musashi, or is it Takezo? In the end, did he talk to him as one who acknowledges him living by the sword, or as a father?
I hope so, I think there's a lot of ground to cover yet on the discussion front. Anyway, I'll also be posting some more photos now and then, just little things of interest, and probably the sequence with Inshun if people want to see that?Eluvei said:Anyway, thank you for these wonderful posts, the pictures you posted are all the ones I desperately wanted to see. I couldn't possibly think of anything else to ask of you. Boy, we'll have plenty to discuss from now on!
Yes, this has taken it all to another level. Take Inoue's words from 2008, which bear review:Eluvei said:And is it just me, or is anyone else now looking even more forward to the next episodes after we've seen all of this?
It reads in part like a eulogy for the series, yet that's the contradiction, and conflict, that's become so interesting as Vagabond continues. In that same piece, he verbalizes themes within the story, and for him personally, which are still being actively explored, more directly than ever, by Musashi, and perhaps by Inoue himself. He takes such responsibility for what he's depicted Musashi doing, Musashi's choices being his choices, that it's almost hard to separate the two at this point. I'm greatly compelled by this symbiotic relationship, and I think the LAST Manga Exhibition was the fulcrum of a series' evolution, not resolution.グリフィス said:"I thought "The LAST Manga Exhibition" could become an
opportunity for me, to turn the "Musashi" I depicted and
his lifetime of killing dozens of people into a positive, despite
What I'm trying to say is--
The people that read "Vagabond" all along.
The people that accepted my many twists and turns during
these 10 years, and kept following me.
I really, really wanted to make them feel good.
"I'm glad I kept reading." --
I absolutely wanted to make them feel that way.
Drawing "shadows" to draw "light."
Conflicts and killing people are "shadows."
I thought I had to draw that side, or I wouldn't be able to see
I thought that was what I was proceeding towards.
However, even if it was something along the path to my
destination, the pictures that depict killing people, although
pictures, also had the power to unconciously hurt people's
Unseen thorns were left remaining in the reader and the
When I discovered a part of myself that felt, I don't want to
show these to people that still have God-like, bare open souls,
like young children, I felt this was a certainty.
I'm glad I was able to draw this story at this time.
No, it had to be this time, and it had to be a "Manga drawn
in space, experienced with one's entire body," or it really
wouldn't have been possible to get across.
I now truly feel that I finally had an opportunity to depict
When I think so, it all wasn't a mistake. It turned into the
exact form I was proceeding to.
Even when I depict sorrow, it is no longer sorrow without a
The reports of Musashi's death have been greatly exaggerated. You're entitled to feel that way, particularly about episodic releases, just remember that it's no more indicative of the overall quality and health of the series than the frustrations and negative perception Berserk's episodic release schedule can similarly create for fans. Like following Berserk episodically, one has to give it the benefit of the doubt and jump in, reserving some judgment for the bigger picture.Walter said:I may end up being in the minority on this, but for me it's the opposite. I feel that Inoue just finished the series in a really beautiful way, and that's going to be a stumbling block for me in the future of the episodic releases. It's such a climactic and emotional ending, I imagine it will be hard for me to continue following the day-to-day life of Musashi with as much gusto since we just experienced the culmination of what Inoue has been working toward all these years.
As for that bigger picture, first, let me readily admit my bias the other way, I'd be following the latest Vagabond episodes if they were about Musashi learning tea etiquette. But, while you know Inoue and his overall work better than me, I can fairly say that it's not fair, and simply untrue, to say you've experienced the culmination of what Inoue has been working towards. I've tried to warn, and perhaps I've still done the material a disservice here, that we really haven't experienced the LAST Manga Exhibition. Let alone the fact that Vagabond continues, and continues to evolve around and expand on that material. Despite what we do know from the LAST Manga Exhibition, the parameters of the story still aren't so confined. It really doesn't give anything away about, or limit the possibilities of, future episodes, and is pretty self-contained. We don't even know what the final nature of the relationship between the LAST Manga material and the rest of the series is, as it's incomplete; conversely, so is the context and meaning of the exhibition itself in relation to the series. While I do think the exhibition is canon, it's not like it's truly the last volume of the series in an organic sense, as if Inoue actually drew the rest of the series, had it all done, and just spoiled the ending. They're not just two ends of the same piece, with a gap in the middle, that Inoue is dutifully filling in. From what we've seen, it's almost like they orbit one another, separate but directly linked, pushing and pulling on each other like gravity. That's what I find so fascinating and exciting about it other than the theme of the exhibition itself; the truly non-linear, interrelated nature of the storytelling it's created. Vagabond is still a living, breathing, evolving entity, and the LAST Manga Exhibition is just another part of that, albeit unorthodox. While it's technically the end of Musashi's life, it doesn't encompass the practical end of his spiritual journey from a storytelling standpoint. In a strange way, the continuation of Vagabond is also the continuation of the LAST Manga Exhibition, it's "spiritual successor" if you will. That's why I'm going to follow Musashi's continuing journey with a renewed interest, because it isn't finished by any means, not for Musashi, Inoue, or us.