I've been looking for it recently, but I can't seem to find it... Was the topic erased or something like that? ?_?Wereallmad said:You remember that old 'theory' Olivier posted from the Japanese BBS'?
The leader of the Elves changed a dying Gaiseric into the Skull Knight. I don't think it said anything about a cursed armor, but... well, just look at the Skull Knight. ^^;Didn't it too involve a cursed armor? One that was nessesary to save Gaieric's life, but cost him his humanity or something along those lines?
Olivier Hague said:Like I said, it's not very satisfying... But there are some details that sound "authentic" (and some other one that are just... )...
Anyway...
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An Occultation occurred at the Tower of Retribution a thousand years ago. That was Void's "birth".
Two years later, another "artificial" Occultation was to be triggered by a man. That's how the Skull Knight was eventually created.
Gaiseric wasn't in the Tower of Retribution.
The screams of the wiseman who was kept in the torture room of the tower gave birth to the God of the Abyss (the Idea of Evil) who was still "chaotic" (bad English? :-/ ) and wasn't "shaped" yet before that. The God of the Abyss answered to the screams by initiating the Occultation.
Gaiseric, in his capital of Midland, heard about that phenomenon, and wanted to become a "god" himself by triggering an Occultation and sacrificing his people.
Void saw that and, with the help of "Apostles" he created, destroyed Midland to punish him. The frontier between our world and Void's wasn't clearly established yet, back then (Olivier: that's got to be the worst part of the whole thing :( ).
Gaiseric was badly wounded, but survived. As he was dying, he was saved by Elves, whose existence was still legendary at that time.
But because of what happened to him, he was too weak to fight anymore, he couldn't even wield a sword. The leader of the Elves saw that Gaiseric felt guilty for his sins, so he (she?) told him about the Elves' origins and explained him that he could expiate by being "revived" by them into a Skull Knight to destroy Void, the monster he created.
The Crimson Beherit was created by the God of the Abyss from Void's crystallized tear of blood.
The Elves are the materialization of feelings, just as the God of the Abyss is. They're just the "opposite" of the Idea of Evil. They were created by men and symbolize their hopes and positive thoughts.
Well... As you can see, there are some problems...
An "artificial Occultation" _2 years_ after a regular one? That reminds me of what happend with Femto's birth and Griffith's rebirth... A bit too easy...
Also, if Void was the first God Hand, he should have been born less than 1000 years ago... Of course, there's always the possibility that the Skull Knight killed a God Hand...
The whole explanation about the 4/5 Angles who destroyed Midland is extremely fishy, in my humble opinion.
Apart from that...
Well, that would explain why the corpses in the Tower of Rebirth weren't "eaten" and all had the brand on their forehead...
That would also explain why Puck sensed some "Elven aura" around the Skull Knight...
I guess the whole thing about Griffith's last tears being "crystallized" (volume 13) would make more sense if that was supposed to explain the Crimson Beherit's origins...
Er... I sure hope it's a bit more... convincing and less... simple? than that. ^_^;;
Bill said:Its fishy because the story is said 4 or 5 angels came down to destroy Midland for the wiseman. If the wiseman is Void who is the 4th angel? It could've been Skully himself but then Gaiseric is just a red herring in the hope of discovering Skully's past.
Olivier Hague said:?_?The leader of the Elves changed a dying Gaiseric into the Skull Knight. I don't think it said anything about a cursed armor, but... well, just look at the Skull Knight. ^^;
that makes alot of sense since gattsu seems to be the opposite of Griffith. must keep the antagonist and protagonist(sp?) seperate in certain aspects.Wereallmad said:I Also don't think Guts would wear a helmet again. When he left the Hawks, he left his helmet behind. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, but I think it is somewhat signifigant, Guts never wears a helmet again while Griffith's is permanantly affixed to his (first as a prisoner in the tower, and later as Femto).
SaiyajinNoOuji said:If he chooses not to wear the helmet it may not be because of that but more of well.. He has one eye, if he wears a helmet it get rid of his perripheal (sp?) vision damn near completly... BUT if he does wear it, maybe it could heal it??
Bill said:I have no idea how Guts is going to escape Grunbeld, he hasn't even pulled out the blades from the shield yet.
Smith said:And dont forget the cannon that is many times the firepower of Gutz's one.
Btw, talking about the helmet, maybe he will be protected by all kinds of physical attack!
Wereallmad said:Along with a host of other incredibly stupid posts in his time here.
Smith said:Secondly, the armor covered a person from head to toes, so gutz had to stripped nearly naked to get that armor on, I doubt it will be logical to change into that armor when Gutz is still in a midst of battling Grunbeld :(
BOB said:wow so much politeness from someone who keeps a flame account and a geek style argueing account up at the same time.
adorable
lets concatenate the hair on my ass to the hair in your nose k?
Smith said:Now think carefully again, before u give any other comment! I may reply some stupid post sometime, but if u have seen LG in the early days or Genn21, then i guess u reflect on what u have said again!
I m not trying to be rude, but i guess whatever post that is stupid would be deleted long ago...
P.S: Phew, never had i been so harsh to any1 be4 in this forum, and Btw, thanks Guil ;)
Guil egoless said:The thing is there are so many nerds being full of themselves here that sometimes it bores me.
Guil egoless said:Hey, first : it wasnt directed to your high self , you know ?
Guil egoless said:second : doing long sentences wont make you more intelligent
Guil egoless said:third : i'm not a pacifist, but i wont talk about that
Guil egoless said:and in the end, you make no sense by bullshitting ... i will not bitch you but just say you're plain worthless ... like me ! But i'm not closeminded and bitter...
BOB said:wouldnt try to piss you off wereallmad. like that "old fart" rudeness towards newbies ;D
Guil egoless said:Imo, there is no reason to bitch.