I believe one page is missing, between 11 and 12...
Page 12 is unavailable to see if we go with the html page link... page not found...Olivier Hague said:I believe one page is missing, between 11 and 12...
Griffith said:I have that glorious feeling of death too! ;D
But I wouldn’t go as far as to say the child and Griffith have separated yet. But, I also believe the demon child must have something to do with this; it’s not just Casca. Perhaps being God’s arbitrator gave Guts' and Casca’s child unexpected ethereal benefits. I mean, his interest in Guts and the whole scene that follows is almost like the kid was manipulating them; forcing them together. Anyway, whatever the ins and outs are, all this certainly isn’t coincidence.
-Griffith
xechnao said:Yeah, but Caska is hating Guts. But, yes it could be Guts child. Anyway it seems identical to Caska. But the fact it's a boy could hint to Guts.pheonixfenix said:correct me if i'm wrong...Caska's only had one child right? And that WAS Gut's child too... right?
Don't know man. But at least it's kinda sure it's Caska's. This is what I was trying to say: it is Caska's. If it is also Guts' (it could be) , I don't know with the same certaince.
Saeki said:I had initially thought that the child was looking for the brand on Gats - seeing that he was climbing up his neck. Also, how he was close (maybe?) to Caska's as well when they were sleeping together...
Ditto. Pag.17: or he is going for the mark or he is trying to tear away the armor (remember that it protects Guts from the spirits )ZODDGUTS said:Yeah that was my impression also. As if the child knew where Guts brand was and was checking it. That child may be too good to be true.
roberto999 said:Ditto. Pag.17: or he is going for the mark or he is trying to tear away the armor (remember that it protects Guts from the spirits )
roberto999 said:Also it can be a coincidence , but while Casca tears him away from Guts, in the last panel of the page, we see under him, Guts throwing knives. A omen perhaps ?
roberto999 said:And the monster in the last page is shown like if he is waiting for something.
The difference is that the monster is shown on the sea,far away from the hut were our heroes sleep. So he is not a immediate menace. Simply Miura wanted to show that someone or something else was in the big picture.Griffith said:What’s the difference between being shown like you’re waiting for something and being shown like you’re not waiting for something? And I guess we’re all waiting for some kind of stimuli at any given moment. I think he’s reading the text box below him and waiting for the next chapter so he can do something.
I’m all for the kid being more sinister than he appears (which is pretty shady, despite he’s disarming cuteness), but I'm not really seeing it yet in the story itself. I think the kid/croc connection is a little weak sauce... but we'll see. =)
-Griffith
Actually, when I said "I believe", it was just to be polite. One page is missing between 11 and 12. ^^;Shurikn said:I also think there's a page missing, bcz at the beginning of the page 12 trans .... something's not fitting. Or maybe the link between page 11 and 12 is just shitty, but i don't think so, Miura's not used to do that kind of mistakes.
Saeki said:http://www.hotarubi.net/suavo/berserk/Berserk_vol28_ch238_RAW.zip
"Sharing is caring." - Care Bears
Griffith said:I think he already has, Guts was practically gentler with the kid than Casca. Plus, he’s obviously feeling some guilt now about being a bad dad to his demon baby. =)
“It’s eleven o’clock, do you know where your demon child is?”Considering the journey began 7 volumes ago and they haven’t even hit the sea yet, I don’t think Miura was ever in a hurry to get them there.Or he’s hungry and he saw that kid with his feet in the water. ;D
Speaking of which… the child was standing on the shoreline, haven’t I heard this as a metaphor for something somewhere before? =)I have that glorious feeling of death too! ;D
But I wouldn’t go as far as to say the child and Griffith have separated yet. But, I also believe the demon child must have something to do with this; it’s not just Casca. Perhaps being God’s arbitrator gave Guts' and Casca’s child unexpected ethereal benefits. I mean, his interest in Guts and the whole scene that follows is almost like the kid was manipulating them; forcing them together. Anyway, whatever the ins and outs are, all this certainly isn’t coincidence.I can already hear my girlfriend "ooooo"ing and "awww"ing at this chapter. :)
-Griffith
What do you mean by "evil"? Corrupted by GH or something?Shurikn said:I hope that boy is not "evil", Caska being cured and Guts showing feelings about that boy, the boy not being evil, those 3 things would make an awesome plot in my opinion... but I think it's impossible to go that way... because i think Griffith is right about this
Shurikn said:As long as i know, Caska had sex only one time and it was with Guts (she told him it was her first time) so it's kind of hard to have more then one child except for twins if you had sex only once...
xechnao said:It is a spirit that came to life by Caska's desire for her lost baby. That's the way I see it although I don't exclude it, to eventually be Guts' son -that would depend mostly how Caska's desire "ellabored" that part ;D.
Griffith said:Nah. Demon child. ;)
-Griffith
Griffith said:I don’t deny the plausibility that this boy has nothing directly to do with the demon child. But I think that it’s a weaker theory and should be considered second. Like the dictionary; =)
Moonlight Boy
1. An ethereal projection of the demon child’s soul drawn
by Casca’s desire and the child's will.
2. Casca can conjure children out of thin air. (WDT 1) ;D
Working with what we know, it just makes a little more sense when you throw in the demon child and the mysterious power of God and all that mucky ethereal goodness. Also, if you look at how he interacts with Guts, it’s almost as if they have history together. Combine this with the parallels of the moon, the rebirth… pages 20 and 21, and it all paints a more compelling picture than just the child simply being a manifestation of Casca’s desire alone. While that’s still a likely scenario, why give priority to it over a theory with more weight behind it?
-Griffith
I thought the exact same thing, so...Guil-BANNED! said:excuse me if you feel offended for the vagabond parallel ::)
xechnao said:Hey, child's don't have to be ethereal to do such a thing. Childs have the power to force people together (sometimes) ;)
Anyway, I believe it is ethereal indeed by what Shielke said and by the ocean thing and Caska's ominous looks in her eyes. Only I can't be sure it's the demon child or Gut's son or even having something to do with Griffith.What do you mean by "evil"? Corrupted by GH or something?So what? The fact that this boy came to life as Caska's desire for her last son(the one he made with Guts') does'nt necessarily mean that this boy is Guts' son. It is a spirit that came to life by Caska's desire for her lost baby. That's the way I see it although I don't exclude it, to eventually be Guts' son -that would depend mostly how Caska's desire "ellabored" that part ;D.
Woland said:The kid looks exactly like Kid Guts except with Caska's eyes and hair.
No. Look at Guts as a child in Volume 4. The resemblance is uncanny.xechnao said:Apart from the fact that both are boys I fail to see the resemblance. It has Caska's ears, Caska's eyes and hair, Caska's chin...practically Caska everything except from thr pee pee