Mule recognizes the elves. It just means he isn't blind- minded or something more? ::)
Maybe she knew there was still time, maybe she felt it only after getting there, maybe she wanted to see the battle, many possible reasons... Don't forget that "fear" doesn't seem to be in her dictionary (make her blind and we've almost got daredevil ::)).asmer said:why would she go just where she knows the Kushans are gonna attack!? That's the thing I was wondering about. :-\
But she has a special power, and says "weird things" to quote Mule himself. Enough in a town like Vritannis to pass for a witch in the eyes of a kid for example, especially now.Kirika-chan said:b) He thinks that Sonja might have been confused with a witch because she's such a weirdo (not entirely unlikely but not too likely either... she doesn't really look like a witch, I mean, the girl doesn't even wear a hat!)
I don't think Griffith classifies things like Sonja does, and I don't think he considers her as an apostle (dragon) or a common soldier (duck). More likely, she's a useful tool for him, no more, no less.Kirika-chan said:Does Griffith consider Sonja a dragon, a duck or something in between (kite???).
I think it's more subtle than that... She didn't say that she was stronger than apostles, or such a thing, but that she could "fly" in the same skies as the Hawk. I find it very interesting, and I think it relates directly to her ability.Kirika-chan said:She considers herself a kite (in-between [although she think's it's even higher than dragons, I doubt it])
She didn't seem that happy to me, at that precise moment, and then again:Kirika-chan said:If she really escaped to Viritanis in a fit of jealousy against her falcon's matrimony to the duck queen Charlotte, why would she be telling the story so happily?
It's the most logical answer in the context.Kirika-chan said:It could be that she's "just like that" all the time.
Far fetched, imho. Doesn't really fit the character.Kirika-chan said:she might think that offering him Schierke will earn her enough bonus points to change his mind on his choice of spouse. If she doesn't, it could still be because she think's that she can use the witch's powers to change either Charlotte, Griffith, herself or some other relevant factor so that she'll be the one he marries.
Well, it looks more like she actually saw it.Kirika-chan said:Then she felt the power of the witch.
It's a matter of context actually, the word could mean either of them, but logically, it's supposed to refer to Isidro IMO.xechnao said:Don't know japaneese but Olivier said that it was a "he" and not a "she"...
Yes you're right, I am probably trying too much to analyze Sonja as a normal person, even if it's true she has already shown before that her reactions, especially toward "fear", are not always those of a teenage girl! ::)Aazealh said:Maybe she knew there was still time, maybe she felt it only after getting there, maybe she wanted to see the battle, many possible reasons... Don't forget that "fear" doesn't seem to be in her dictionary (make her blind and we've almost got daredevil ::)).
This is 245, and I believe this was clear allready ;)QUeeN typhonblue said:Caska almost got burned at the stake for being a witch, and she didn't even have a pointy hat!
BTW, Mule seemed somewhat distraught when he asked Isidro about the witch. Perhaps he was worried that Sonja (who hasn't shown any of the defensive ability of Schierke) was taken for a witch. Seems plausible -- his concern--seeing as two women in the story have already been condemned as witches just because they acted weird and said weird things.
U have to be right. I mean ... obviously we don't know so much about Sonja ... and more ... we actullay know nothing about Sonja ... could she be only "a good actress"?Rhombaad said:The more I think about it (which is either a good thing or a bad thing), the more it seems like Sonja is being a little "too" innocent and nice. Either she's genuinely being kind to Schierke because she wants to bring a witch to join up with the BotH, or she's tricking her into going to Griffith and getting killed (or tortured, who knows). Her expression creeps me out anyway, but I'm not going to call this one until we see more of the story....sniff...two more weeks :'(
The answer to your question is inside words of the past ... "the levels are beginning to have a mixture together". Actually the differences between the levels are becoming very small and untouchable, so ... Mule-Myur is now able to see fairies ...puella said:Mule recognizes the elves. It just means he isn't blind- minded or something more? ::)
Um, well in Caska's case, she did kind of get worshiped as a witch at the heretic orgy. Her brand attracted spirits to possess all the guys into meat eating freaks, and the demon baby came to protect her by dispelling those spirits. Then Elene told Mozgus' goons that she was their leader when they were captured. So, I wouldn't say it's just for her acting strange.QUeeN typhonblue said:Caska almost got burned at the stake for being a witch, and she didn't even have a pointy hat!
...seeing as two women in the story have already been condemned as witches just because they acted weird and said weird things.
Yeah, and that's why the townfolks couldn't see Puck, huh?paradise_lost said:The answer to your question is inside words of the past ... "the levels are beginning to have a mixture together". Actually the differences between the levels are becoming very small and untouchable, so ... Mule-Myur is now able to see fairies ...
So what, it was spoken of several times in the 246 thread.xechnao said:Walter, I guess this Sonja bad girl stuff is first of all my take, at least I was the one that first posted this on the thread...and I did this cause Olivier's post made me think about it
Well, Olivier, maybe Mule-Myur is not that simple person that so many people is thinking he is. Maybe he is not a "townfolk" person, and of course, he isn't that kind of person. He is near Griffith, and near Sonja, and for sure, this stuff lets him able faster than other "townfolks" to see the different levels and the strong mixture the levels themselves are getting each one ...Olivier Hague said:Yeah, and that's why the townfolks couldn't see Puck, huh?
Well, comments are always good in my opinion. I know u are a good expert of Berserk, almost like I am. Than ... of course, maybe. I like to use the word maybe 'cause no one of us could be able to give a real answer to what Miura wants to let us understand. We can obviously speculate. And we do it. In our speculation, in my modest opinion we have to use the word maybe. I like to use it. I u don't, it's your stuff, it's not mine.Olivier Hague said:*sigh*
Well, yeah, maybe _that_'s the reason, huh? Just maybe?
Well, it was a little bit like that in the past. But actually I'm here not to fight against Olivier or others, I'm here to speculate and give my opinions ... nothing more. Obviously, if Olivier wanna fight with me, I'll answer no problem, but I'll never be the first one to begin ...Sparnage said:What, did these two used to fight alot in the past?
Funny.Olivier Hague said:Retard.
More funny.Olivier Hague said:
Aren't they the same thing? ;Dparadise_lost said:But actually I'm here not to fight against Olivier or others, I'm here to speculate and give my opinions ...
Yes. I don't see why people (two now I guess) give such a shit either way. Obviously it wasn't supposed to be the most serious dramatic moment in the series. It was good for Azan (why does everyone want every character to be taken so grim and seriously in every chapter, even when they weren't to begin with?) and fine for what it was; I think people are hampering their own enjoyment of the series for whatever problem they've got. Also, I find these comments equally useless, it's not real analysis, it's just, "That sucked." Okay, where do you want to go with that anyway? Why post it all... unless you want your mind changed? =)darkbane said:Am I the only one who thinks that Azan's reintroduction was a bit... pathetic? Ok so it was good for a cheap laugh but... really... Sleeping in full armor on a small boat like that... Actually I think someone already mentioned it, but there's so much trash in this thread that I can't find it right now.
I agree, Sonja has done nothing worth arguing about. It's all pretty cut and dry, she's interesting, yes, but so far not all that complicated.darkbane said:Also, about a cigar sometimes being a cigar. People are reading too much into Sonia's behavior.
Well then I guess it's quite a well-crafted cliffhanger for what it's worth. =)darkbane said:But this is one hell of an annoying cliffhanger here... you'd think the obvious continuation would be a polite refusal. But I'm not convinced that she has yet understood that their 'leader' is the Hawk, especially since Mule was interrupted by Isidro just as he was naming the Hawks. She might just go along for awhile (would be irresponsible, but she's in a confused state of mind it seems, and she never had a real friend before).
I think that's if she gets too deep into the spiritual realm near him; since he reigns supreme there I guess he might absorb her some bullshit. ;Ddarkbane said:Also, in vol 22 Schierke says that getting close to a source of such power (referring to the hawk of light) in her body would be dangerous. Wouldn't it be a problem for her to approach Griffith? Or am i misinterpreting her statement there.