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A true dweller of the Internet! I salute you my brother-in-arms!SpectralSorrows said:Can't miss out on this! I'll be picking up a bootlegged copy soon enough.
A true dweller of the Internet! I salute you my brother-in-arms!SpectralSorrows said:Can't miss out on this! I'll be picking up a bootlegged copy soon enough.
Nothing is immoral on the internet! Anyways, it will probably be some time before it gets out to over here That does make me a sad panda. I will make it a goal to watch it though!sarahofborg said:Upon occasion there comes a film so great that acquiring it through the internet before it's released on DVD just becomes immoral. I'm payin $12 a ticket and waiting an extra day (cause it's sold out) because I'm sure it'll be that great.
I usually know a great movie when I see one, even before I see it. Hopefully there won't be too many piraters to keep it from being a big hit.
SpectralSorrows said:Can't miss out on this! I'll be picking up a bootlegged copy soon enough.
Slightly Green said:So, this is slightly related and exciting for some (I think Aaz may dig it quite a bit, if I remember correctly)
handsome rakshas said:Went to see a midnight screening last night, it was a pretty good movie. The costume design of the Persians was very eye appealing, especially the "Immortals" and the grenade throwing guys. The Persian leader was pretty damn cool all well.
...anyhow...so I just finished watching the 2 hour documentary on the history channel about the battle of themopoli (sp?). I confess I didn't understand a good half hours worth, with all the complex politics. I did understand the insane magnitude of the significance of the events at the battle.
Essentially, if these 300 Spartan warriors were not as great as they were, and did not commit military suicide to save the lives of a major city, we wouldn't have democracy today. At all.
And really, in American society, we highly value democracy. It's not to say there arn't other heroes who have sacrificed themselves to attempt to save their nation. It just so happens that they were defending the great nation of Greece, and helped give birth to the nation. If the battle had been in defense of a barbaric, short-lived empire, it probably would have been a forgotten battle.
So like I said, it's all a matter of perspective. I don't think what they did was any less heroic. I appreciate they gave their lives for what they believed in, as many people throughout history have. The thing is, they didn't actually fail. They died, but they accomplished everything they sought out to do and more. The 300 men changed the fate of our civilization.
Yet, there are certain things that myth has forgotten, and I honestly understand why. For one, the entire army wasn't just 300 men. The 300 men led an army of 1-2000 people, yet they were against at least 10s of thousands of enemies. Some say millions, but there is no absolute record. In fact, the 300 men who died did so that the rest of the army could retreat and evacuate the city they were protecting. It was the best outcome they could have ever hoped for in a horribly hopeless battle.
But really, is this significant? Is a few hundred survivors in such a devastating battle really matter when compared to the fact that they saved an entire yet-to-be-born nation? I think it's almost a given, that this detail is naturally assumed when the story is more simplified.
Anyhow, I highly appreciate the mytholisizing of ancient battles. It's hard for the modern public to understand such a complex battle, and it's harder to appreciate when modern mitilary battles are so vastly removed from the ancient times. Modern warfare is so far removed from the ancient past, it's like trying to appreciate a battle between beasts instead of humans. The fact that we replace the strength of thousands of men with the symbol of a supernatural creature and force actually helps a modern person truely appreciate the significance of the past.
This has absolutely nothing at all to do with modern heroism. What the modern soldier does today, in comparison to the lives of the Spartans, is absolutely alien. Courage and strength come in many different forms and what's true for one soldier in one society is not always the same for another. To the Spartans, their lives were one great battlefield, and they were born to die for their beliefs. They were born to change history, for that express purpose alone. That is nothing short of amazing.
So don't tell me that a movie exagerating the enormity of the human spirit is slander to the real heroes. It's quite the opposite. Without this, history can and will be forgotten.
CnC said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU
thanks uriel!
sarahofborg said:I'm sure Berserk has quite a few historical inaccuracies, despite pretending to be taking place in medevil times. I don't hear too many complaints that an arm-crossbow-prosthetic was not physically possible, and probably still isn't possible today.
sarahofborg said:As I've said 50 times by now, it's based on a fuckin comic book, not reality.
CnC said:thanks uriel!
sarahofborg said:*sigh* no one takes what I say seriuosly here
sarahofborg said:As I've said 50 times by now, it's based on a fuckin comic book, not reality.