Official Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of Patriots thread

[Walter]

I bought a PS3.

should Metal Gear Solid 4 be the first game I play, or should I just pass?

It's gotten rave reviews across the board. I dont see why youd skip out.

 

[Aazealh]

I bought a PS3.

should Metal Gear Solid 4 be the first game I play, or should I just pass?

It's not like there are many other games worth buying for the PS3 at the moment... If you like the series, get the game as soon as possible.

 

[Guts intestines]

I can argue a little on his side, it's not like the fans were making it easy for him to quit.

 

[nomad]

Though I think nobody here find the news shocking, and me being a fan of the series and all, I can't say it's good news. Granted they announced that it wouldn't be the last MGS game from the begining... but really, how much are they going to keep adding? I can accept a re-make of the original or whatever, but more? The entire MGS4 was based into putting an end to the saga and everything with it. Frankly I don't even see a decent open window to grasp in order to continue the plot, or at that adding into it. Time will tell I guess.

 

[Guts intestines]

Though I think nobody here find the news shocking, and me being a fan of the series and all, I can't say it's good news. Granted they announced that it wouldn't be the last MGS game from the begining... but really, how much are they going to keep adding? I can accept a re-make of the original or whatever, but more? The entire MGS4 was based into putting an end to the saga and everything with it. Frankly I don't even see a decent open window to grasp in order to continue the plot, or at that adding into it. Time will tell I guess.

Hmm, maybe it won't be about Snake this time... just maybe.

 

[nomad]

Hmm, maybe it won't be about Snake this time... just maybe.

In a more specific matter, I was meaning more into the "saga". They can allways pop a new Snake whenever right?

 

[Guts intestines]

In a more specific matter, I was meaning more into the "saga". They can allways pop a new Snake whenever right?

I know, I meant that who knows what direction the story could go in, if Snake isn't the main star (or involved at all) it would be easier to start anew. Maybe they could continue the whole FoxDie thing, with Snake somehow starting a pandemic, I don't know, but I'll leave plot to Kojima.

 

[darkbane]

I bought a PS3.

should Metal Gear Solid 4 be the first game I play, or should I just pass?

Most likely buy together with GTA4. However, there are some great games for the PS3 out already (though there aren't that many). You should therefore also consider (from the ones I've played at least):

Assassin's Creed - has been dropping in price lately, so I guess it's not selling well. It's my favorite PS3 game so far, though.
Devil May Cry 4 - addicting and fun but quite repetitive. The long list of unlockables and achievements will keep you playing for long if you're into that sort of thing.
Lair - this one is either unique or frustrating depending on whather you can wrap your mind around the controls. But flying dragons with sixaxis is quite fun
Folklore - another fun action game, with a fantasy theme. You can pick this up for as little as €20 or maybe even less now, so it's practically a freebie
Army of Two - play this with a buddy, this game is all about teamwork. Very brutal, too.
Overlord: Raising Hell - if you missed this on the pc, now is your chance to play it. I've only tried the demo for this one so far but it was great from what I've seen.

 

[Okin]

Just curious if anyone plays MGO. I just tried it the other day since I decided to take my PS3 out of my concrete basement, and it finally detects my router.

 

[Walter]

Kojima "reveals" his obvious movie homages strewn throughout the Metal Gear Solid series:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172389

The Guns of the Navarone, dir. J. Lee Thompson, 1961: Inspired the Metal Gear series concept of infiltration missions, and men that "make the impossible possible".

The Great Escape, dir. John Sturges, 1963: Informed Metal Gear's concept of making the act of remaining unseen exciting.

Goldfinger, dir. Guy Hamilton, 1964: Bond had the greatest influence of any other film series on MGS, says Kojima, and Goldfinger provided the template.

2001: A Space Odyssey, dir. Stanley Kubrick, 1968: Kojima's favorite movie of all time "goes beyond sci-fi to become philosophy". The names David and Hal (Solid Snake and Otacon) come from 2001.

Planet of the Apes, dir. Franklin J. Schaffner, 1968: The film that "gave [Kojima] the courage" to make a videogame with a strong anti-nuclear weapons stance.

The Deer Hunter, dir. Michael Cimino, 1978: Snake's headband ain't no Rambo homage, says Kojima; it's an homage to the one Robert De Niro wore in Cimino's groundbreaking Vietnam film.

Dawn of the Dead, dir. George Romero, 1978: Dawn of the Dead's tight, confined spaces influenced the liberal use of structures like ducts and elevators in Metal Gear's hide-and-seek element.

Full Metal Jacket, dir. Stanley Kubrick, 1987: War is hell -- Kubrick got it, Kojima gets it. The female Viet Cong sniper from the film's climax informed MGS1's Sniper Wolf.

Predator, dir. John McTiernan, 1987: MGS1's stealth camouflage, MGS3's physical camouflage, and MGS4's Octocamo all have their origins in Predator.

Die Hard, dir. John McTiernan, 1988: Helped Kojima while he was pondering how to make hiding in fully three dimensional spaces interesting for MGS1; also influential with regards to how Die Hard's action was inextricably tied to its story.

Heat, dir. Michael Mann, 1995: According to Kojima, the only Hollywood film of its age that portrayed gunfights realistically. After seeing it, he vowed to take MGS1's firearms battles in a similar direction.

Black Hawk Down, dir. Ridley Scott, 2001: The art direction and lighting of the film impressed Kojima so much, he went to where it was shot -- Morocco -- for visual reference to use in MGS4's first chapter.

Children of Men, dir. Alfonso Cuarón, 2006: Also a work that portrayed "war become routine", its long, single, handheld camera shots influenced MGS4's cutscenes dramatically.

Bourne series, dirs. Doug Liman and Paul Greengrass, 2002, 2004 and 2007: Kojima strove to incorporate the Bourne series's "return to the roots of espionage action movies" into MGS4, exemplified by its "restrained action" and "earnest chase scenes".

Casino Royale, dir. Martin Campbell, 2006: Again reiterating that Bond has had the largest influence on MGS, Kojima mentions that the resemblance between Casino Royale's credit sequence and MGS3's trailers made him crack a smile.

Most of them are already quite obvious, and will be no surprise to most people. But I was surprised to see Bourne, The Guns of the Navarone and Deer Hunter on the list.

 

[Oburi]

Yea that's very interesting. I was also kinda surprised about the Deer Hunter one, I never would have made that connection but if thats what he was making a reference too then thats very cool, I must say. Better than Rambo at least.

 

[Walter]

I never would have made that connection but if thats what he was making a reference too then thats very cool, I must say. Better than Rambo at least.

Well, there are still MAAAANY parallels between MGS and First Blood.

 

[Aazealh]

Yeah, and there are resemblances with other action movies as well. I'm more surprised to see Heat on the list (well, that and all the more recent ones, albeit they're only relevant to MGS4), the others are obvious for the most part.

 

[ori]

Kojima "reveals" his obvious movie homages strewn throughout the Metal Gear Solid series:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172389
Most of them are already quite obvious, and will be no surprise to most people. But I was surprised to see Bourne, The Guns of the Navarone and Deer Hunter on the list.

[br]Wondering how come Escape from NY and L.A. aren't up there? MGS2 Snake tells Raiden he's Pliskin.

 

[Walter]

There's a lot more parallels than that too. I mean, the basic plot of MGS1 is nearly a complete rip off of Escape from NY.

 

[ori]

Just completed this game a couple of days ago...have to say I can't remember being totally immersed in a game story....well there's FFVII....

This may have been addressed already but the possibility...no confirmation of 2 sequels to the series? This is true correct? I mean, there's a point in the story where the war is being described as "a game" and then it displays all the metal gear games to date and two blank spaces as TBA.