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Maybe, but I'm still thinking that he is still pretty good at worming out of things.darkbane said:More likely they'd hang him, considering he's one of the leaders of the internal resistance.
Maybe, but I'm still thinking that he is still pretty good at worming out of things.darkbane said:More likely they'd hang him, considering he's one of the leaders of the internal resistance.
Oh that he is. As slimy as they get, that one. ^_^Headless Death said:Maybe, but I'm still thinking that he is still pretty good at worming out of things.
I think Miura's portrayal of fathers is more complex than that they're simply "all bad". Roshinu's father seemed fine in the flashback. Isidro turned his back on his parents, not they on him. And in my opinion, Gambino was a good man turned bad with a chance encounter.puella said:Farnese' father looks really cold blooded. We can never see a good father in berserk? Miura has a father complex or something? ;D
I guess he might have a chance to find out that his daughter isn't a naughty girl any more.
His devotion for the past 2+ years to Griffith? (see volumes 7, 17, 27) Sure, he had a rocky start. But he's perfectly loyal now.Was there something trustworthy about Foss that I missed?
Walter said:I think Miura's portrayal of fathers is more complex than that they're simply "all bad". Roshinu's father seemed fine in the flashback. Isidro turned his back on his parents, not they on him. And in my opinion, Gambino was a good man turned bad with a chance encounter.
Besides, Mr. Vandemion doesn't seem THAT bad, does he?
Headless Death said:Personally I still think Foss as untrustworthy. He simply will do whatever someone stronger, or more powerful than him tells him to.
Walter said:I think Miura's portrayal of fathers is more complex than that they're simply "all bad".
What about Godo. He was obviously the father figure in Erica's life. He was even kinda loving, in his own way.Aazealh said:Sure thing, we've yet to see a real loving father though. Closest would be Guts.
Headless Death said:What about Godo. He was obviously the father figure in Erica's life. He was even kinda loving, in his own way.
Walter said:His devotion for the past 2+ years to Griffith? (see volumes 7, 17, 27) Sure, he had a rocky start. But he's perfectly loyal now.
Here's a different take on the issue: Foss' fear of Griffith is more than his fear of the Emperor of Evil, so much that it defies logic in that he still serves him and believes that he will descend. Plus, everyone in Midland has seen the prophetic dream, but everyone had a slightly different version. Foss' fear of Griffith is therefore reinforced by the dream. Serving a strong master, out of fear, is not really loyalty or a display of trustworthiness. Anyway, first impressions also count, and Foss has made a pretty bad impression to start with - not really anything to do with bald men stereotypes. I can't really hate Griffith for the same reason.Aazealh said:He's leading rebels in Wyndham against Ganishka, an opponent more powerful than anything he or any noble in Midland has known until now. He did that when rumors about Griffith returning were unconfirmed and unlikely things.
Pishacha are sent against him and his men, and what are they fighting for? Charlotte, definitely a strong leading figure... Still, he stayed.
Herald of Yama said:What exactly was Vandemion-otou's complaint about Farnese using the family name? Or did I mistranslate? ???
darkbane said:Here's a different take on the issue: Foss' fear of Griffith is more than his fear of the Emperor of Evil, so much that it defies logic in that he still serves him and believes that he will descend.
darkbane said:everyone in Midland has seen the prophetic dream, but everyone had a slightly different version.
darkbane said:Anyway, first impressions also count, and Foss has made a pretty bad impression to start with
Walter said:Gambino was a good man turned bad with a chance encounter.
I think she won't make up with her father. Probably somehow get help from Magnifico to escape the situation, or maybe Azan coming to "rescue" her from the mansion, then the whole group gets chased to the docks by the town guards. Chase gets called off in light of bigger problems (aka an armada of Kushan warships, or enemy at the gate), boat sails into the sunset. Cut to Griffith being crowned or married (or both) and then watching from a nearby hill as the Kushans decimate the city that Guts and co just fled. This should cover up to 254 ^_^.Aazealh said:Anyway, to get back on topic, what do you guys think the future events will be like? Farnese clarifying things with her father, the guys meeting with Azan, getting the boat, sailing away to Elfhelm, the Kushans attacking, the story switching to King Griffith and the Hawks, etc.
Freddy C said:No, I have lost complete trust in nobles, I realise that some are "good" and others are not, but the fact that so many have turned down towards the path of darkness really has made me not trust them. Now seeing that Farnese has something to hide too...argh, they are all untrustworthy.
Woland said:I thought he sold Guts to Donavan before his leg was blown off.
darkbane said:Cut to Griffith being crowned or married (or both) and then watching from a nearby hill as the Kushans decimate the city that Guts and co just fled.
Quote from: Freddy C on Today at 04:56:37 AM
No, I have lost complete trust in nobles, I realise that some are "good" and others are not, but the fact that so many have turned down towards the path of darkness really has made me not trust them. Now seeing that Farnese has something to hide too...argh, they are all untrustworthy.
Quote from: "Griffith No More!" on Today at 02:55:10 PM
What the hell are you talking about? These are fictional characters and you're acting like you have some personal distaste for them, stop it. Also, what is Farnese hiding?
I believe that the chance encounter was his abrupt loss of his lover Shisu.Woland said:I thought he sold Guts to Donavan before his leg was blown off.
Headless Death said:I believe that the chance encounter was his abrupt loss of his lover Shisu.
Damage Control said:Have you ever really not liked or even hated a person in a movie or show? Well realize that they were actors, and did a really good job in making you believe they were so evil, cruel, etc. They really aren't like that, just on the camera. At the same time that brings up Freddy C's dislike of the nobles in stories, Berserk in this instance. That shows you how good of a writer Miura is, if you can't even hear the persons voice, see how they really act, but still dislike them so much just because you read about them, that is some impressive writing by Miura in my opinion
Headless Death said:I believe that the chance encounter was his abrupt loss of his lover Shisu.
TheSkyTraveller said:Or possibly the discovery of baby Guts in the first place. The guys in Gambino's group thought it was a bad omen to find him in a place like that.
I appreciate all the speculation guys, but Woland was right. I got mixed up in my chronology. Gambino's loss of his leg changed everything. I'd like to lie and say: "Uhh... what Griffith said!" etc, but, well that just wouldn't be honest, would it? 8)Woland said:I figured Walter was talking about the cannonball, since that's when Gambino really lost any semblance of affection for Guts.