Well, so did changing direction in mid-air, but this is all common knowledge if you read the translation.pippin22 said:Well, that shows that he definitely has more control.
Thanks for reaffirming it though
Well, so did changing direction in mid-air, but this is all common knowledge if you read the translation.pippin22 said:Well, that shows that he definitely has more control.
QUeeN typhonblue said:This is the first time Beast-Guts has helped his posse in a way that doesn't involve a killing spree.
but that is awesome- thanks for sharing. infact, i was, and am still amazed guts managed to change motions in the air. before he did that i was imagining to myself if he could actually fly sometime later- and then i see him do that- that was really amazing. it is quite clear that there is more to the mask that we dont know of yet. and like many have said it looks like guts is gaining more control- i hope he is.Psymont 2.0 said:i was looking for a nice version of 30's cover and stubled upon these
http://www.satyrnet.it/berserk/manga1.htm
italian covers are a little different
CnC said:technically, no, he hasn't spoken with the helm still on. But he's definitely had conscious control before while the helm was still on. I don't think its that much of a stretch to say he can also talk with the helm on, nor do I think it demonstrates some higher level of control over the armor.
We'll see.
"Griffith No More!" said:*Best post of the thread*
QuestionMark said:Thank you-- I think that was a large part of what I was trying to get at.
QuestionMark said:it's the first time (atleast in a while-- perhaps ever?) that I've ever seen Guts, in the Berserk armor, doing something truly "heroic" in that prototypical-saving-people-Superman sort of way.
QuestionMark said:Also, I feel like in the past, once the helmet has come up, he's gone "beasty"-- is that true? Because this is one of the only times (the only time?) I can think of where Guts is wearing the helmet and yet truly has his own sense of himself-- as if he were really starting to learn how to control the armor (with Schierke's help).
QuestionMark said:reading Berserk is really reading about the sort of story that leads a normal person to do bizarre, extraordinary, and slightly insane things for the good of others
QuestionMark said:I dunno-- I'm sure it could be argued that perhaps a lot of these things could be seen earlier
QuestionMark said:What were you meaning by "wizard"? I think this discussion up earlier-- like a year or two ago-- about different stages of growth. Can you elaborate on this again? It sounds very interesting to me.
Psymont 2.0 said:italian covers are a little different
regina777 said:infact, i was, and am still amazed guts managed to change motions in the air. before he did that i was imagining to myself if he could actually fly sometime later- and then i see him do that- that was really amazing.
Woland said:As bad as the wound he recieved from the makara is, I'd suspect he's still getting a lot of the benefits of the activated armor.
QuestionMark said:I simply thought the thing with the mast (which is obviously much less amazing than many other things he's done) was very "Supermanish"-- the pose specifically.
QuestionMark said:Geez man, I know that was the front page of the site..... ::chuckle:: ::sigh::
QuestionMark said:I'm simply saying that pose, with the mast, seemed particularly like a Superman pose.
QuestionMark said:Perhaps I was influenced by the "Batman-like" mask/ helmet at the end... in regards to thinking about superheroes.
QuestionMark said:I still hold that the helmet looks different now (as it does, a little bit, every episode)-- significantly so.
QuestionMark said:I also thought the link to the info regarding Campbells stages of the hero very interesting.
QuestionMark said:Guts has always been a bit above normal in his abilities (I meant that jokingly).... he still seemed like a "normal" person to me.
QuestionMark said:I simply saw a parallel between the typical back stories of super hero's and Gut's back story, which was something I hadn't seen before. Perhaps that has always been obvious to you, or perhaps you still don't see it. I can't tell.
Walter said:Anyone else want to join the Daiba fan club? If we get enough on the boat, maybe I'll make a Daiba emoticon.
Even when (if) he dies, we of his army will always remember our great leader. Viva la Daiba.darkbane said:Daiba fan club. Sure, sounds good to me. Yet, I have a bad feeling about Daiba's remaining life expectancy. Guts and co aren't likely to leave him rampaging about in Vritannis, unless he overpowers them and forces them into fleeing.
Well, I really didn't mean the D&D comparison THAT literally Just that the means by which Schierke and Daiba cast their magic seem to be different.Nerdy Robert Jordan stuff...
Well, it's anyone's guess at this point. He meditates a bit before each casting, but I personally don't think he's consulting with elementals (if he was familiar with elemental summoning, the fire wheel adaptation wouldn't have suprised him, I don't think). While it could be unrelated, he sure was bogarting that hookah while on the boat in ep. 243. Maybe he becomes "one" with nature using some special herbs?Of course, it could be a totally different source of magic alltogether - something related to apostles, or evil spirits, or just to the Emperor. Daiba's way of casting spells doesn't seem to respect elementals very much. At a wild guess, I'd say his way is more like holding them in a choke hold. But everything's on the table right now I guess (Isn't it always like that? ^_^).
Walter said:While it could be unrelated, he sure was bogarting that hookah while on the boat in ep. 243. Maybe he becomes "one" with nature using some special herbs?
Walter said:PS: CnC, I'm working on the Daiba taunt as an emoticon... but I make no promises.
Walter said:"Nerdy Robert Jordan stuff"
QuestionMark said:What were you meaning by "wizard"? I think this discussion up earlier-- like a year or two ago-- about different stages of growth. Can you elaborate on this again? It sounds very interesting to me.