Headless Death said:Wow, after 10 years of not reading a new berserk, I have now caught back up.
Long time no see, old boy.
Headless Death said:Wow, after 10 years of not reading a new berserk, I have now caught back up.
Headless Death said:Wow, after 10 years of not reading a new berserk, I have now caught back up. Although I was hopeful they would be further by now, I am still quite happy they have gotten further in the story than I had expected. I was still expecting them to be on Roderick's Boat making a few more stops along the way.
Thanks, good to see a lot of the old faces haven't slacked as much as I have.Aazealh said:Long time no see, old boy.
I definitely do, Although I caught up with the current chapter, I now need to reread yet to refresh the story in my head, since its had a long time to fade since my last reread. I told my Wife how long its been since I read it, and she commented, "So this series that you've talked about the last 6 years I've known you, and you haven't even kept up to date since before I knew you."Walter said:Interesting, a 10-year hiatus?! SO LAZY! You've got some catching up to do
That was exciting. One part of that I was unsure of was if SK inadvertently aided in Femto setting off the "Bomb" to merge worlds, or if SK was just unsuccessful in stopping it.Walter said:• The community's reaction to the big Femto/SK scene, which was pretty crazy to see at the time.
Awesome, It's nice to hear that as of 2009, He was thinking of Berserk as 60-70% complete. To me that means that we may be approaching the final arc within the next 10 years.Walter said:
I remember this one.Walter said:
After watching this on Netflix, got me to think it was about time to start catching up.Walter said:• The Berserk movie trilogy and all the discussion around it
While the animation was awful for mouth movement, and making everything shiny. I appreciate it as a summary of some of the plot points, even if many things were glossed over, or outright ignored. I'm still likely to pick up the set when it's released in January, Despite the Loud clangs of the Dragonslayer. And even wouldn't mind seeing more, as I still enjoy seeing adaptations that I can absorb lazily at times.Walter said:
I'll need to check those out.Walter said:
Headless Death said:Thanks, good to see a lot of the old faces haven't slacked as much as I have.I definitely do, Although I caught up with the current chapter, I now need to reread yet to refresh the story in my head, since its had a long time to fade since my last reread. I told my Wife how long its been since I read it, and she commented, "So this series that you've talked about the last 6 years I've known you, and you haven't even kept up to date since before I knew you."
Headless Death said:That was exciting. One part of that I was unsure of was if SK inadvertently aided in Femto setting off the "Bomb" to merge worlds, or if SK was just unsuccessful in stopping it.
Headless Death said:Awesome, It's nice to hear that as of 2009, He was thinking of Berserk as 60-70% complete. To me that means that we may be approaching the final arc within the next 10 years.
I remember this one.
DirtiestM said:Hello skullknight forum! I've been reading Berserk and lurking on this forum since 2014 and love the podcast so I thought it was about time to post!
While I was rereading Volume 27, Flora said something that I thought was possibly relevant to where the story of Berserk left off. As Flora presents herself as a wall of flame to protect Guts and company she says to Schierke, "My existential form will merely change. We can meet again in your dreams."
I think that Flora might make some kind of appearance to help Schierke and Farnese, either as a wall of flame like she appeared as to defend against Grunbeld or maybe just as emotional or moral support for Schierke so that she can persevere.
Instead, the Sovereign of the Flower Storm might just intervene
or Schierke and Farnese will persevere on their own and think of some clever way fight against the resistance of Casca's own mind.
Aazealh said:The reason she came out to see him in the first place is because she knew —through her Brand— it was her son. Literally everything in the scene makes it clear Casca recognized her son in Griffith. Including the fact Casca does not remember anyone from before her illness, and therefore could not have remembered Griffith himself (and would not have reacted like that if she had).
darnage said:So the main argument you used against me is that up until now, the only thing the story told us Casca had that's spiritual is her brand, everything else is speculation (like the one I did, that she was corrupted like her child), and so the only way that Casca can feel the presence of her son is through it.
darnage said:So how does the brand works? it does two things, the first thing is that it's similar to a light in the dark for evil spirit, the second things is that it start to bleed/hurt when something spiritual is nearby, the amount/way it bleed/hurt depends on what's make it react, the distance doesn't seem to affect it, once it's in range, no matter how close, the brand will react the same way (I'm not sure about that, I'm basing myself on chapter 7 when the brand suddenly react to Femtom at full strengh, and I know the early chapters have problems of coherence with the rest, so correct me if I'm wrong).
darnage said:So what do we get from that? It's not a radar
When?Aazealh said:That process of elimination isn't necessary. The story shows us directly that Casca feels the presence of her son through her brand.
Yes, he used his brand to track down apostles, but he only use it to know the general position, out of the three apostles we saw him track down and kill, he learned about the snake lord before the start of his small arc, we don't know either how he learned about the slug count and Rosine doesn't even have a proper human form, and they just run into each other. It's never said he can use it as a radar, he just use it to know the general area, then look for who it might be, wich isn't hard since every apostles kill dozens of humans in the exact same way every month without even trying to hide it, so he just have to follow the bodies.Aazealh said:Clearly you haven't paid much attention to the story. How do you think Guts tracked apostles during his Black Swordsman period? He did it through his brand. This is explicitly stated in the manga. The brand allows Guts to immediately know when an apostle is nearby... and to track it down. Among other things, it also allowed him to know Flora was a powerful being, but not an evil one.
Yes, the manga show Casca sense her son, but it's never said it was through the brand, they have been together six time, three time as a foetus and three time as the moonlight boy, during the three time as a foetus, there's his birth during wich ghosts are flying around, that time near a river, where he appeared to shield Casca from zombies, and when he protect her from being consumed by the goo during the conviction arc. They have never been together without an evil being activating the brand, so even if the brand did activate during these encounters, nothing prove it's because of her son. As the moonlight boy, there's the time he was inside Griffith, who was influencing the brand, and the times on the shore and the sea god's island and in both case the brand was neither mentionned nor shown. The manga repeatedly show her sense and locate her son, but it never says how.Aazealh said:Casca has a special relationship to her son, which isn't surprising, and just like Guts can sense and track down apostles, she can sense and locate her son. The manga repeatedly shows it happening.
darnage said:When?
darnage said:Yes, he used his brand to track down apostles, but he only use it to know the general position, out of the three apostles we saw him track down and kill, he learned about the snake lord before the start of his small arc, we don't know either how he learned about the slug count and Rosine doesn't even have a proper human form, and they just run into each other. It's never said he can use it as a radar, he just use it to know the general area, then look for who it might be, wich isn't hard since every apostles kill dozens of humans in the exact same way every month without even trying to hide it, so he just have to follow the bodies.
darnage said:Yes, the manga show Casca sense her son, but it's never said it was through the brand
darnage said:They have never been together without an evil being activating the brand, so even if the brand did activate during these encounters, nothing prove it's because of her son.
darnage said:The problem I have with Casca using the brand is that she can detect the exact position of her son, the brand cannot do that, because the only thing it does is hurt and bleed when something's nearby, it can be used to know when something is close, but not where exactly.
I'm not asking for advice on how to read, I'm asking for a single passage in the manga were Guts use the brand as a radar, and I'm paying attention, for every single one of your argument, as well as mine, I go verify the concerned passage to make sure my memories are rights (well, when I can, but I'll come back to that).Aazealh said:I encourage you to re-read the story while paying more attention to it.
As I just said I was doing, I checked the entire section, from the start of the arc in volume 14 to the moment's when Jill tell the story of Peekaf in volume 15, and here's how the arc goes:Aazealh said:This is simply untrue. We see Guts rushing to Rosine's precise location in volume 15, which directly contradicts what you're saying.
Then explain it to me, and please tell me from where you get your explanation, as a said, I always check the manga for every argument, so you just have to point out where in the manga you get that the brand, who's only thing it can do is inflict pain on a single point, can work as a radar. (and you can go check on google, there isn't a single radar that only need a single point to work, they all need at least a 2D surface)Aazealh said:I don't think you really understand how the brand works...
We know the brand work as a radar because Casca use it like that.Aazealh said:The brand can indeed do that, as evidenced, among other things, by the fact Casca can sense her son through hers.
Hey, I'm trying my best, I would gladly change my opinion but when your arguments aren't plain wrong like with Rosine, you just keep repeating how I obviously didn't get the story without actually telling me what passage I'm interpreting wrong. As I said early, I always try to verify my claims in the manga before saying anything, and yet in that entire comment you just did, who's made of five different arguments, the only one I could go check was wrong. In fact, in your comment before that one, I could also only check a single one of your arguments, about the black swordsman arc, and your response to me pointing out it was wrong was with Rosine, who was even more wrong.Aazealh said:This discussion is a complete waste of time: you're basically refusing to admit what's plain to see to any reader because you're too enamored with the incorrect assumption you came up with.
darnage said:I'm not asking for advice on how to read, I'm asking for a single passage in the manga were Guts use the brand as a radar, and I'm paying attention
darnage said:So, can you tell me where in all that did Guts rushed to Rosine location without any prior knowledge of where she was?
darnage said:please tell me from where you get your explanation, as a said, I always check the manga for every argument
darnage said:(and you can go check on google, there isn't a single radar that only need a single point to work, they all need at least a 2D surface)
darnage said:We know the brand work as a radar because Casca use it like that.
darnage said:Hey, I'm trying my best